[punterccrx8s]

Originally Posted by BenjiRoss

Large, overloaded truck on smaller roads vs a badly parked (?unlucky) autorickshaw.
https://Youtu.be/UwVs2YLHVT4

I'm not sure if the truck is driving legally (load and using smaller road), but he does make the turn like a boss!

Sadly these lorry guys get away with overloading by bribing cops

[Rahul Rao]

Originally Posted by BenjiRoss

Large, overloaded truck on smaller roads vs a badly parked (?unlucky) autorickshaw.
https://Youtu.be/UwVs2YLHVT4

I'm not sure if the truck is driving legally (load and using smaller road), but he does make the turn like a boss!

Lumber can extend beyond a truck body, it is a world wide rule, and applicable even in developed countries. In India an excise permit for the same is available, and I can see a copy of one stuck to the middle log on the truck. Now the truck has stopped and not run away legally he just has to make a panchanama and go. The auto rickshaw will be charged for parking within 5 M of a junction (all stop lines are ends of junction limits).
The law is just a book of rules which can be misused by lawyers, and this is exactly what is going to happen.

Originally Posted by punterccrx8s

Sadly these lorry guys get away with overloading by bribing cops

Why bribe a cop when the law favours the truck. Who ever set the trailer length limit at 12 M did not know that trees grow beyond that length, and things like bridge spans which are longer need to be transported, and so such special permits are4 issued.

Rahul

[honeybee]

I think the point here is not if the truck was overloaded. Even assuming that the truck was carrying oversized cargo extending beyond its body, the truck driver should have foreseen this, if he really is as good as the video caption makes him out to be, and stopped, got the auto moved and then made the turn.

He could have prevented the damage, and that's why his contribution to the accident is greater.


I have seen numerous drivers of buses and trucks allowing smaller vehicles on the inside of the turn to either make way or to go ahead, so the larger vehicle doesn't scrape them. Looks like this driver wasn't good enough with the oversized cargo.

[Thad E Ginathom]

Originally Posted by honeybee

... the truck driver should have foreseen this, if he really is as good as the video caption makes him out to be, and stopped, got the auto moved and then made the turn.

He is not good at all. He screwed up that turn, at the cost of damage to the auto, which he must have seen. I'm sure he wasn't alone in the cab: he just needed his assistant to get out and see him around, or give the stop signal when it was obvious he wouldn't make it.

[TrackDay]

Originally Posted by Rahul Rao

Lumber can extend beyond a truck body, it is a world wide rule, and applicable even in developed countries. In India an excise permit for the same is available, and I can see a copy of one stuck to the middle log on the truck.
Why bribe a cop when the law favours the truck. Who ever set the trailer length limit at 12 M did not know that trees grow beyond that length, and things like bridge spans which are longer need to be transported, and so such special permits are4 issued.

Originally Posted by honeybee

I think the point here is not if the truck was overloaded. Even assuming that the truck was carrying oversized cargo extending beyond its body, the truck driver should have foreseen this, if he really is as good as the video caption makes him out to be, and stopped, got the auto moved and then made the turn.

Originally Posted by Thad E Ginathom

He is not good at all. He screwed up that turn, at the cost of damage to the auto, which he must have seen. I'm sure he wasn't alone in the cab: he just needed his assistant to get out and see him around, or give the stop signal when it was obvious he wouldn't make it.

I have to agree that the point here is not overloading. There are definitely objects that require transporting that are longer than the length of the vehicle. Although I am not aware of the legality in such cases, it would be wise to have an assistant or someone to guide such vehicles. What if there were passengers in the rickshaw, although I think it is a private one going by the white number plates.

In this case the three wheeler too is equally a culprit. But hey it's late at night. What wrong in parking on the road junction? This attitude wont be repeated by the Rickshaw driver for at least some time.

[punterccrx8s]

Originally Posted by Rahul Rao

Why bribe a cop when the law favours the truck. Who ever set the trailer length limit at 12 M did not know that trees grow beyond that length, and things like bridge spans which are longer need to be transported, and so such special permits are4 issued.

Rahul

Wont it be safer if they just cut the tree and transport it? Look at that overhang in the video. Extremely dangerous. And I was talking about overloading of trucks in general. Again not blaming only the lorry driver. There is no point in trying to put sense into auto drivers.

[binand]

Originally Posted by TrackDay

Although I am not aware of the legality in such cases, it would be wise to have an assistant or someone to guide such vehicles.

The long trucks that I see on true highways all have an accompanying SUV-class vehicle with at least 2 people inside. They stay just behind the rear end of the overhang and ensure nobody tries any stunts. I believe they are in constant contact with the driver of the truck too. Example - the trucks that carry windmill blades all along the GQ down south.

[airbus]

Originally Posted by punterccrx8s

Look at that overhang in the video. Extremely dangerous

Originally Posted by binand

The long trucks that I see on true highways all have an accompanying SUV-class vehicle with at least 2 people inside. They stay just behind the rear end of the overhang and ensure nobody tries any stunts. I believe they are in constant contact with the driver of the truck too.

It was stupidity of the truck driver to take that turn without someone watching the back specially with logs extended way beyond the trailer. The overhang portion of logs appear to be more than 50% of the length of the trailer. Without proper guidance (and planning), this kind of trucks are a hazard for other road users

[Thad E Ginathom]

It might be that we are seeing the sort of dimensional distortion one gets with a wide-angle lens: stuff closer to the camera looks bigger. If not, I don't understand how that truck could manage on ordinary roads at all!

That must be some special timber to be transported like that!

[BenjiRoss]

A wedding celebration turned fatal as shown in a video from social media. The location was Muzaffarnagar in UP.
Posting the video on this webpage as it shows a fatal accident.
http://www.thewiseherb.com/crashes/2...ns-turn-fatal/

As per news reports:

At least one person was killed and 12 injured. The condition of at least four of the injured is critical.
The bride was unharmed.

News links:
https://www.indiatoday.in/india/stor...C01xijTNyB9Jzc

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/on-c...ndtv_topscroll

[YD14]

Originally Posted by BenjiRoss

Large, overloaded truck on smaller roads vs a badly parked (?unlucky) autorickshaw.

I'm not sure if the truck is driving legally (load and using smaller road), but he does make the turn like a boss!

It qualifies as ODC (over dimensional cargo / any cargo that protrudes outside the vehicle carrying it) and govt. requires any such vehicle to take permission from MoRTH. Also, these vehicles should be escorted by a pilot vehicle and they cannot travel during nighttime.

So according to the law, the truck is at complete fault as there is no "No Parking" sign for the Auto and to mitigate such conflicting situations government has made the above laws, which were not followed by the truck.

[Gotham_City]

Originally Posted by BenjiRoss

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A wedding celebration turned fatal as shown in a video from social media. The location was Muzaffarnagar in UP.
Posting the video on this webpage as it shows a fatal accident.
http://www.thewiseherb.com/crashes/2...ns-turn-fatal/

Extremely dangerous to have any kind of celebrations / processions so close to fast moving traffic. What led family / organizers to do this?
Poor couple had been scarred for life.

[SS-Traveller]

My daughter took this pic somewhere in Bihar, on the NH19 (NH2) near Sasaram on 7-Feb-21 night. A truck crashed into the back of another earlier that day, sandwiching a motorcycle in between. The rider, a local member of the sand-mining "brotherhood", was killed. The resultant traffic jam took over 12 hours to clear, and we were also stuck inside that mess.

[TrackDay]

Originally Posted by Gotham_City

What led family / organizers to do this?

'Everyone does it, so we do it too'. This is a kind of peer/social pressure. At most functions rules are violated and no one wishes to speak up as it is an auspicious occasion. This mentality should change and organizers should be more responsible.

[swissknife]

Originally Posted by SS-Traveller

The resultant traffic jam took over 12 hours to clear, and we were also stuck inside that mess.

This is something that is totally unacceptable. 12 hours to clear traffic to clear!!!