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| ![]() Has anyone actually reported it & got a response from Maruti? I would really love to know MUL's reasoning behind knowingly using inadequate brakes on their cars, and discontinuing the V-spec ABS models. And why are there only Z-spec TD cars for the 2011 Swift? Hiding something there, MUL? Given that majority of the purchases will be V-spec, MUL is risking not only its clientele's lives, but of all road users. But people will still buy blindly, won't they? "Arrrey bhai, Maruti hai!!". Shame ![]() Last edited by Chetan_Rao : 20th October 2011 at 16:06. |
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Infractions: 0/1 (5) | ![]() I am using Dzire Vxi for last 2 years +. I felt urgency of braking 2-3 times at some high speed like 80-90 but i never felt problem like this. It was not great experience but it is adequate to stop the car in time. Better you get it checked with MSIL. I guess its odd lemon you got. |
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Even Z variants features ABS but still they're far behind of Punto or Polo's Non-ABS brakes. Even Ritz brakes are also much better than Swift, New Swift & Dzire. I've also booked New Swift ZDi, which is scheduled to be delivered by Jan-Feb2012, but after reading various serious flaws on Swift I'm planning to settle for any other car, probably Polo, Punto or Verito(diesels). | |
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BHPian ![]() | ![]() Like someone pointed out in the earlier threads, i felt the turbocharger was pushing the engine while trying to break, i had driven one of the first VDI's of a friends 3-4 years ago and thats what i had felt and since then i had advised my friends who were planning to go for LDI/VDI for a tyre upgrade, sad to know that this issue is not yet sorted out. Is this a way to force more people to go for the premium variant (Z(X|D)I)? I can understand how it feels to have a good diesel engine under your hood (FIAT MJD) and unable utilize all the horses fearing bad breaking :( |
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| ![]() Is the issue of having weak brakes on the L/V variants confined only to the Diesel Swift? Would the petrol version have a similar problem? Almost all of the comments here relate to the VDi. |
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| ![]() Petrol should be better off, as even in the past Maruti upgraded/replaced the brake boosters only in Diesel variants (mainly due to the extra engine weight of the Diesel) |
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Maruti had tuned the engine components, ECM and hence my doubt. . | ||
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| ![]() @moralfibre. I fully agree with your observations. Swift has very poor brakes. I too had many scary moments with my previous generation Vdi, with the old brake booster design. But was not so lucky on my last chance. Even though it was not my mistake I hit a girl aged around 16 at a very low speed @ around 20 Kph. The car never stopped fully even though I applied the brakes very hard. Luckily she was not hurt. @Dieselfan I don't understand what engine braking you are talking about in a normal street car and under normal driving conditions. I have heard that in open wheel cars used for racing , the moment you lift will cause the car to lose speed rapidly. Correct me if I am wrong. thanks |
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Driving tactics should be changed for a diesel. Firstly push your car on the highway one day and know till what speed in a particular gear is the car revving till. I ll give you an example of my swift diesel. I ll leave 1st gear out of the equation as its very short and useless for engine braking. 2nd gear till around 65 kmph, 3rd gear till 85 kmph, 4th gear till 130 5th gear cannot be used for engine braking so we ll leave that too. 5th to 4th can be shifted till around 130 and the engine will slow the car down rapidly, then 3rd can be shifted at 80 from 4th, 3rd to 2nd at around 60. Depending on situations you can use these downshift speeds to aid the normal brakes. During Mumbai Lonavala trips, while coming down on the ghats, Engine braking coupled with a slight tap on the brakes during turns is all it takes. | |
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My observations are; -Looks, Fit & finishing are good. -Interior dashboard is having good design but its Plastic Quality is really poor as compared to Polo, Punto, Fabia & Micra. -Plastic panels are really very flimsy with having very fragile feel, especially the Door pads & handles. -Claustrophobic cabin(even for Driver & front passenger also) as the Window line is still very high further plagued by Dark Coal black Interior shade. -Engine performance is good with Turbo kicking into action at around 1800Rpm. -I was Shocked to see that even with 185-section tyres, Swift ride is very light & at 60kmph+ speeds it doesn't inspire any confidence either or maybe In other words, I'm spoiled by the Test Drives of Solid & Pliant ride of European cars. -Car retardation(Deceleration) due to engine is now better than Old Swift(which always tends to accelerate even while taking the feet above the accelerator pedal). SE called this some 'Rapid Deceleration technology', which is now introduced into this New Swift. -Braking performance is good & somehow 'Adequate'in ZDi variant, but I'd still rate Polo, Punto & Micra's brakes better. | |
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