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You have put a local aftermarket bull bar on your Fortuner. There is no way the airbags sensor will get activated even in head on impact with that bull bar. As mentioned by everyone Fortuner only has front airbags which in a rollover are not supposed to deploy. | ||
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Going OT, but now I really really do feel that Fortuner is way overpriced for what it offers. XUV at half the price makes even more sense now, with the 6 air bags all around along with all other safety features. ![]() | ||
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Moreover airbags deployment also causes injury to the body in terms of burns as it is like an explosion. The idea is minor injuries due to airbags explosion are ok compared to massive injuries without airbags. | |
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http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...y-niggles.html Really hope that above incident is more of an exception ! Similar Airbag incident in one of the most so called safe car - http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/street...rders-fir.html Last edited by AvonA7 : 31st December 2011 at 00:49. | ||
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| ![]() ^^+1 The airbags will deploy only if the frontal impact sensors sense deceleration beyond a threshold value. The Bull bar has messed up the game here. Glad that your family escaped unscathed. |
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| ![]() To me there are 2 reasons why the Airbags didn't deploy [these are already shared in the thread] 1. Roll over and no severe frontal impact. Looks like the A pillar took the beating. 2. Aftermarket bull bars ! Quote:
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The customers suffer here more due to the lack of better safety equipments. And if Toyota didn't bother to offer the required ones, the customers are the only ones who need to be blamed; for making a vehicle with few safety equipments at that price, a blockbuster HIT. ******************************************* Question -- Is there any provision for offering Airbags on A pillar or front air bags deploying when A-pillar takes a hit? I guess this is the second incident I have read in the last 1 month where A pillar crashed and the Airbags didn't deploy; the other one being a Merc S class accident (if I am not wrong). Last edited by swiftnfurious : 31st December 2011 at 01:03. | |||
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I think your statements are contradicting, in the sense, first manufacturer offer it as standard accessories and next due to this accessory the safety feature failed ? (refer *** in bold above) Quote:
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Edit:: In the second pic, the bumper seems to be pretty much in good shape - no dents. So we can safely assume that the air bags sensors were NOT activated. Seeing the damage to the A pillar triggered my thoughts on mounting air bags on A pillar or air bags getting deployed on A pillar impacts. Last edited by swiftnfurious : 31st December 2011 at 01:34. Reason: Adding "edit" portion | ||
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| ![]() Why people use bull-bars? It messes up with Airbags and the whole crumple zone design. Sigh...When we will learn? |
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Senior - BHPian ![]() | ![]() Fortuners are safe as steel, i have read/seen/herd of 4 such instances excluding this one and the mere fact that the occupants came out safe on their own legs is a testimony of that. In all the other cases the occupants have been safe always, and escaped with minor bruises. On the case of airbags, there could be two reasons, one the bull bar, which actually serves no purpose at all, two the side impact and not frontal impact. |
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In this case, IMO, the side airbags would be more useful to reduce injury. But one thing I must admit is that the car did hold up well despite the crash. Remember, this is close to 2 ton monster and even after multiple rolls, the cabin in relatively intact. Very tough car indeed. There is no way we can doubt the safety of Fortuner IMO. In the case of S-class, in the thread itself there are a few images with marking showing that airbags might have deployed ( they were uploaded by me when I thought that the airbags might have deployed and was visible in the remains of car ). Adding an image of Curtain Airbag: | |
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| ![]() Yes, a case were an addition for extra safety / macho looks intruding into the car's inbuilt safety functions. And even if there is a remote possibility of airbags failure, Toyota is on strong grounds here. Last edited by vb-san : 31st December 2011 at 08:59. Reason: comment changed |
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| ![]() Bull bars / crash guards do interfere with the air bag sensor activation. There are also cases described in the user manual when the air bags may not be deployed. This is the reason why I'd installed front parking sensors, so that any chance of collisions may be detected and whatever I can do to prevent may be done. ESP is definitely a good feature but is NOT a license to speed. There are limitations to ESP on its ability to get the car to stability, depending on speed, road, tire conditions, drivers concentration etc. The Fortuner is definitely very safe & stable, else with the kind of crash you've described, there shouldn't be any survivors! Last edited by nitinbose : 31st December 2011 at 09:14. |
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The frontal Impact sensors need to be activated, for the machine to qualify to deploy the Airbags, but since the first impact is a side sweep here, the speed of the vehicle would be reduced and maybe did not deploy or register it as a frontal collision. Secondly,the huge bull bar on the front, is a Indian mod for the Indian Roads, which I am sure was not tested in Toyota labs. any modifications ruins the manufacturer's assumptions and it is but natural that the Airbags did not deploy. The logical question is, should be be questioning the ornamental bull bar or Toyota's safety standards. | |
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Senior - BHPian ![]() | ![]() Thankfully everyone is safe... @nitinbose: +1. A tall body on frame vehicle needs to be driven in a certain manner...ESP etc. are just the icing in the cake. Last edited by nilanjanray : 31st December 2011 at 09:21. |
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