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Especially in the case of really well built cars like Accord and Camry, a not-so-high-speed frontal collision wouldn't ruffle up the driver too much. But a sideways impact can be lethal if his/her head bangs into the door sideways and there is no airbag to cushion him. This plus the fact that its relatively easier to avoid a highly damaging frontal accident scenario than a sideways impact scenario. I hope you get the hang of the angle I'm trying to look at the situation from. | |
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It works like "Closing the Loop". OT what about the front and rear guards often added onto cars? Do they benefit/ harm? I have seen two types, Metal and Fiber. If someone can share any data around these. | ||
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Bottomline is that having an airbag is better than not having any. Is it worth whatever is being charged? Market will decide that. Each person has his own scale of what he is willing to pay for safety, brand image, size, quality etc. It is good that more cars/models have airbag option. | |
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| ![]() I did not understand the part in bold above, could you please explain? Last edited by GTO : 4th January 2013 at 10:19. Reason: Quoted post deleted |
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| ![]() In the previous page, there is a statement, about how vehicles which were initially designed without airbags had them as a feature added later, like the safari, scorpio etc. Now were there any changes made to the front structure to enhance the impact absorbing capacity of the car such that airbags could be efficient? I am asking this to you as I feel you are the rightperson to give an opinion/correction. Wont just plonking an airbag be useless or even more fatal, if the chassis is not designed to absorb a frontal impact and for the airbags to act as a supplemental restraint? |
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| ![]() Se my first post - I mentioned Bull Bars as a menace. The purpose is to pass on the impact to the chassis, and since the crumple zones are disabled occupant safety is not an issue with these fools. There is also a thread on these somewhere. These will almost certainly interfere with AirBag operation. |
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| ![]() Not really. What is sensed is the acceleration (or rather deceleration) and not the impact directly. |
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Commendable Explanation ![]() Just think how the costs would elevate, if a swift ZXI/ZDI have 6 Airbags, Traction control or ESP or all of them. Think what would an i20 CRDI Asta will cost you if they add ESP or Traction control to it, it will be in Honda City AT zone. Same applies with other B2 or C1 segment cars as well. Safety comes at a price, the price we indians are not ready to pay. We often give reasons of ABS not required because of strict City Usage or Airbags not needed as the car will be driven very sedately etc etc or at least they do not have budget. I will always support a move where Airbags and ABS are made mandatory. Nothing is more important than my family's Safety. Period. | |
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| ![]() In theory I completely agree with the need. But there have been enough cases reported in TBHP where the airbag has failed to deploy on some premium cars !! Example http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/street...ml#post2875259 http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/street...se-pg-7-a.html http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/street...rders-fir.html Are the vehicle manufacturers collecting a premium with the emotional angle - food for thought !! |
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| ![]() ^^ Hey, that I know buddy. I was asking about the relation between bonnet and energy / speed during a crash, and what actually happens. Since you mentioned a speed range. Spike |
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| ![]() I'll try and frame up a reply with regards to the thread title: 1. Are front airbags useful ? The answer would be a yes, but not by itself. The car safety gear is designed to work in tandem with each other . ABS/EBD helps the brakes not locking up, the Seat belts prevent the driver's/passenger's torso from moving forward due to rapid deceleration (read: Inertia due to a human body being inside a moving body). Cars with ABS/EBD will help reducing the chance that the airbags will deploy at all, since you would be stopping before you actually hit something. As someone had posted earlier, Seat-belts hold only the torso, leaving the head unbound. So, when the car crashes, you have the torso linked with the car(seat-belts holding the person in place) but the head is still in motion. This might lead to a dislocation at the base of the neck. This is the major reason why safety while driving is a must. Relying on oneself during crisis will always be better than relying on technology during such occurrences. P.S : sorry for the long post. |
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