[locusjag]

Originally Posted by aayusht

Hi Locusjag, would you know how this works?
Twice in the recent past, my wife & I have approached the Gurgaon traffic police with dashcam evidence of rule breakers on the road. While nothing had happened to us or our car when we approached the police & our intention to approach the traffic police was to hand them video evidence in the hopes that there would be some punitive measures leading to better road etiquettes over a period of time. However the response we got from traffic police - "We only rely on our own video or photo evidence" (their own cameras).

Hey, us people down south (Chennai, Bangalore etc.) have identifiable social media handles (Twitter, FB pages, WhatsApp numbers etc.) on which the police encourage citizens to report traffic violators. The police then upload a pic of the challan which gets issued against them as well on the same social medium where the complaints come in to them.

Gurgaon seems to be the wild west, based on what you're saying. The cops aren't interested in doing their jobs.

As an alternative, all I can think of is to tag the transportation minister of the state or an RTO maybe. If it is a company staff bus that's in the wrong, a communication the company will do the trick - so on and so forth. Sorry, that's all I can think of. I understand your plight with the apathy of the cops.

[veyron_music]

Originally Posted by luvDriving

Well I had an mild incident last week.

I was driving my daughter to school around 07.20 am. A school bus driver came up the wrong side causing a small traffic jam.

The Ertiga driver in front of me had a few words exchanged with the bus driver. I had no intention of engaging but as I was driving across the bus, instead of stopping and allowing me to go on, he decided to keep creeping on. I merely said to him - what kind of idiot are you to come on the wrong side driving a school bus.

I dont know what snapped inside him but he let loose a barrage of cuss words at me. I was shocked and worrying about my daughter, I kept driving on. This trend has now become very common in Pune - drive on the wrong side and glare or cuss at the people who are following traffic rules.

On a side note, when we reached school, my daughter before alighting said to me - baba take a deep breath and calm down before you go back. Dont engage with any more such fools.

Pune is literally full of these idiots, good drivers are gems on Pune roads, as a resident it is disheartening to see such condition of driving etiquette.

[Funny]

Just came across this video. Just look at the onlookers who didn't even try to help the poor cabbie. I am a 100% percent sure that the Audi driver gets away without any consequences. The dynamics of rich vs poor and the ever increasing road rage incidents is just mind boggling. Those with money have no fear of law at all, just look at those family members looking at the impact multiple times but didn't even flinch when the driver was thrown to the ground in a brutal way. This country is going downhill, no one can save us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0J4M8HafcT4

[Thyag]

Came across this video about road rage increase in bengaluru,

https://youtu.be/_1nJ0sJVnYE?feature=shared

Although the solution for de-escalation of the problem is fine but telling,

"We cannot say whether the trend is increasing or decreasing" - Really

"Brake Testing, Lane Change without Indication" are "Minor Incidents"

Finally, people are posting things in social media because simply they get more attention & most of the time immediate action, so authorities have to take measures to make people trust in the system -

[Ays7]

Originally Posted by Funny

Just came across this video. Just look at the onlookers who didn't even try to help the poor cabbie. I am a 100% percent sure that the Audi driver gets away without any consequences. The dynamics of rich vs poor and the ever increasing road rage incidents is just mind boggling. Those with money have no fear of law at all, just look at those family members looking at the impact multiple times but didn't even flinch when the driver was thrown to the ground in a brutal way. This country is going downhill, no one can save us.

https://www.Youtube.com/watch?v=0J4M8HafcT4

To my knowledge, police have already registered an FIR against the Audi driver as well as passenger. Though the sections in FIR are not of culpable homicide not amounting to murder, but the same is likely to be modified based on condition of the Ola Driver.

It would be foolish to think that full wrath of the law will fall on Audi driver. However, given how clear the video evidence is, he will get more than just a slap on the wrist. Say what you will, in day and age of Social Media, if the crime has been recorded, getting off absolutely scot free with zero repercussions is absolutely out of question.

[SR-71]

Originally Posted by Ays7

To my knowledge, police have already registered an FIR against the Audi driver as well as passenger. Though the sections in FIR are not of culpable homicide not amounting to murder, but the same is likely to be modified based on condition of the Ola Driver.

Per the news article in Hindustan Times, the tiff started with the Audi driver first hitting the OLA driver from behind and driving away with the OLA driver's navigation gadget. The OLA driver followed them to retrieve it and the rest is evident in the video. It's sad that Audi driver thinks it's OK for him to hit others but it not OK for others to hit him.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india...069069646.html

According to his complaint, the trouble began when an Audi hit his car from behind near Asalpha Metro station. When Ansari got out to inspect the damage, the couple in the Audi, identified as Rishabh Chakraborty (35), who is a journalist, and his wife Antara Ghosh (27), allegedly started abusing him. Ghosh also reportedly removed the Ola cab device from Ansari's vehicle and started driving away.

Ansari followed the Audi, and his car collided with the luxury vehicle at the entrance of a building opposite a mall in Ghatkopar. At this point, in the video, Chakraborty can be seen slapping Ansari, lifting him, and slamming him to the ground, head first.

[Ays7]

Originally Posted by SR-71

Per the news article in Hindustan Times, the tiff started the Audi driver who first hit the OLA driver from behind and drove away with the OLA driver's gadget. The OLA driver followed them to retrieve it and the rest is evident in the video. It's sad that Audi driver thinks it's OK for him to hit others but it not OK for others to hit him.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india...069069646.html

I am with you on that in the sense that there is zero excuse for Audi driver to behave the way he did and violently assaulting the Ola driver. That kind of behaviour is inexcusable in itself, regardless of whether what bought it on. You simply cannot follow a principle of an Eye for an Eye or a Tooth for a Tooth. In this case, even more so as Ola Driver in no way damaged or hit Audi driver or his companion. Therefore, in my mind there is no doubt that Audi driver needs to be punished to the fullest extent of the law. I am just not sure if attempt to murder charges will stick in this case, as there was no intent for murder, the intent was for causing serious bodily harm, and hence the sections should reflect that.

Also, just like in most cases, Audi driver and victim will arrive to some sort of a monetary compromise to make this all go away. Is that justice? I am not sure. But it will atleast be fair to Ola Driver in my opinion, unless there is some permanent damage or injury that will prevent him from engaging in his livelihood.

[N.A.GTC]

Originally Posted by Funny

Just came across this video. Just look at the onlookers who didn't even try to help the poor cabbie. I am a 100% percent sure that the Audi driver gets away without any consequences.

That's clearly a very high-end hotel. We need the name. There's six security personnel who decide to be mute spectators. What else are you hired to do, buddy, you're the *security* guard? Stop the violence. We really need to identify the hotel, and make it known that guests will not be safe there.

[deathwalkr]

Originally Posted by Funny

Just came across this video.

Words fail me here

Beating up a human being for a mere scratch on his car...just how low have we gone down to as a society.

What is alarming is that none of his family members (?) seemed to show any remorse either. The senior fellow casually calls back his flock to get back in car and moves on.

As for the onlookers, well i would be hesitant as well to restrain someone who just casually picked up a grown man and body slammed him onto the ground

And security personnel in most places are just glorified parking attendants only.

Just feel so bad now seeing the video.

[GeneralJazz]

Originally Posted by N.A.GTC

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What else are you hired to do, buddy, you're the *security* guard? Stop the violence. We really need to identify the hotel, and make it known that guests will not be safe there.

While I want to agree with you, a certain security guard who did what he was hired to do, ended up being squished against a wall with an SUV and beaten to death by a rich dude here in Kerala. The rules are different for the rich and the poor, and everyone knows that, so why put your life in peril for nothing?

[Nalin1]

It was a road rage that began a little earlier and you can clearly see the cab trying to overtake or stop the Audi at the beginning of the video. At the entrance to the mall, looks like the cab deliberately nudged the Audi to make him step out and things turned ugly.

A dent here, a scratch there caused by anyone must remain only that. A traffic case.

MUST never escalate to a law and order case.

[bravo6]

Originally Posted by Nalin1

A dent here, a scratch there caused by anyone must remain only that. A traffic case

Exactly. This nudge, even if it were intentional, didn't warrant getting body slammed to hard concrete. This dude's ego transformed a simple traffic offence to criminal assault!

Originally Posted by Thyag

"We cannot say whether the trend is increasing or decreasing" - Really

That is the truth isn't it? Without dashcams, there's no way to know what really happened, it's all he said, she said, so kudos to him for actually being honest.

What can be inferred is the trend of using dashcams is increasing, so more such incidents are coming to public notice.

A few days ago a car entered the main road and stopped right in my lane, blocking my path. I could see him having trouble gripping the wheel since he had his phone in hand which he was glancing at. So to let him know I was behind him and was about to overtake, I held the horn down until I passed him safely. Mr. Fragile Ego took offence and honked back at me, revved hard , overtook me from the left, only to immediately turn right at the intersection. This incident had me thinking if I should get a dashcam for bike as well. Without a recording, there's no way of proving this actually happened.

Finally, people are posting things in social media because simply they get more attention & most of the time immediate action

True. I myself have a few recordings, but the incidents were minor enough to not lose sleep over. Perhaps I should post them here.

[hortons15]

Originally Posted by SR-71

Per the news article in Hindustan Times, the tiff started with the Audi driver first hitting the OLA driver from behind and driving away with the OLA driver's navigation gadget. The OLA driver followed them to retrieve it and the rest is evident in the video. It's sad that Audi driver thinks it's OK for him to hit others but it not OK for others to hit him.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india...069069646.html

This is he-said she-said at the moment. Until we have the full story investigated by the police or relevant authorities and we have solid evidence of what actually happened, we must try and refrain from taking sides. It's the trend for news media to point fingers becuase AUDI, but as a forum we must not!

[cryptarchy]

Originally Posted by Funny

Just came across this video. Just look at the onlookers who didn't even try to help the poor cabbie. I am a 100% percent sure that the Audi driver gets away without any consequences. The dynamics of rich vs poor and the ever increasing road rage incidents is just mind boggling.

Based on video evidence this does not look like a case of rich vs poor or a poor <insert profession here>. I am not condoning any violence, but time and again we have learnt that our roads are full of crazies and it is advised to stay in your car and not engage with others on the road regardless of whose fault it is.

[self_driven]

Can't believe people on Team-BHP are justifying the criminal behaviour of the Audi driver! The cab driver's act of tailing the other car looks intentional but the nudge clearly wasn't.

The Audi slowed down considerably before its front wheels crossed the speed bump and then finally came to a dead stop. The Ertiga was crawling behind the Audi for some time before the impact. To me it looks like a judgement error on the cabbie's part as there was enough time at his disposal if his intent was to "mess around".

This level of violence was simply uncalled for. For those bringing the "threatened by cab driver" angle to this, please understand that female members of the family don't walk out first in the face of 'threat' as it happened in this case.