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Old 3rd September 2024, 07:44   #1096
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Re: Road Rage - Understanding, Avoidance and De-escalating Situation

A takeaway from this incident especially for people who love their wheels (obsess) is to not let anger, despair and a personal affront to incidents involving 'contact' get the better of us. Walking away from such does not mean we love our cars any less, rather, we rescue our machines to repair them on insurance!
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Old 7th September 2024, 16:06   #1097
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Re: Road Rage - Understanding, Avoidance and De-escalating Situation

Generally the driver, other than the cab driver is at the receiving end at least when driving in traffic. In any case there was no reason for the Audi driver to react in this fashion. Keeping a calm head is a must when driving anywhere in India, there have been moments when even I felt the rage to pursuit a rogue driver but every time good sense prevailed and I swallowed my ego and continued to my destination. I sincerely hope the cab driver recovers physically and mentally at the earliest.
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Re: Road Rage - Understanding, Avoidance and De-escalating Situation

Road rage incident in Bangalore: https://x.com/east_bengaluru/status/1833112797707632840

I think the continuous honking irritated the cab driver and if he had not honked, the cabbie wouldn't have stopped. But what the cabbie does next is completely illegal and punishable.
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I think the continuous honking irritated the cab driver and if he had not honked, the cabbie wouldn't have stopped. But what the cabbie does next is completely illegal and punishable.
True. Even with the kind of driving displayed, the car driver is bound to invite trouble sooner than later. He almost knocked down a biker when trying to flee.

The cabbies, both of them, were surprisingly well-behaved in this instance till this car guy tried to act smart and merge. In parts of Delhi, you will see cabbies doing these type of manoeuvres in traffic all the time. Us normal road users often have to let them in.

I read your description before watching the video and expected an entirely different scenario, with some cabbie flouting rules and acting tough when confronted.

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True. Even with the kind of driving displayed, the car driver is bound to invite trouble sooner than later. He almost knocked down a biker when trying to flee.
100% this.

The car driver cuts to the left hoping to pass the vehicles in front and realizes there is a group of bikes there, so tries to cuts back in expecting the cabs which were already there to give way. The cabbie didn’t take that lightly and reclaims their position. The car guy had to just let go at this point and not honk unnecessarily! And also did an extremely poor job of de-escalating, his testimony reads as if he did everything to de-escalate but he only shouted back and even escalated the situation by using pepper spray.

After dealing with bumper to bumper traffic regularly (and especially on the roads shown in this video), a few things I have learnt is:

1. It doesn’t matter ONE bit if you change lanes or try to pass the occasional one or two vehicles in such conditions. It does zilch to the overall transit time and by attempting to do so, it invariably invites a lot of trouble. For these kind of traffic situations, planning is important and sticking to a lane/position that you know works for you to exit or stay on the road.

2. When other vehicles try to pass you or cut you off, just let them pass and go. Let them get in front of you. No one has the intention to just park their car in the middle of the road. In a bumper to bumper traffic, an additional car in front of you increases travel time by zero. By trying to fight for that position you slow down the entire traffic, including yourself. Yielding in such cases is actually the faster option.

Cities like Bangalore should have mandatory bumper-bumper traffic training before giving out licences. There are very simple common sensical ways of making commute a lot less stressful even in such traffic conditions.

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Road rage incident in Bangalore: https://x.com/east_bengaluru/status/1833112797707632840

I think the continuous honking irritated the cab driver and if he had not honked, the cabbie wouldn't have stopped. But what the cabbie does next is completely illegal and punishable.
I agree with the cab driver in this instance because he was not at blame in the first place, unlike the majority of incidents reported in this thread, where the auto or cab drivers are at fault. Initially, the dashcam vehicle attempted to aggressively enter the lane of cab by attempting to join from the left side. The cars made slight touch as a result of this forceful maneuver. Rather than offering an apology, he begins blaming the taxi driver and engages in a verbal duel. The second, which he conveniently neglected to include in his narrative, is the use of pepper spray on cab driver and subsequent attempt o escape from the scene. This is what ultimately set off the cab driver's angry conduct that resulted in damage to the vehicle.
Even while I don't condone the cab driver's vandalism of the vehicle, I believe bullies who think they are unstoppable on the road just because they drive larger vehicles need to be disciplined.
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Old 10th September 2024, 08:52   #1102
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I think the continuous honking irritated the cab driver and if he had not honked, the cabbie wouldn't have stopped. But what the cabbie does next is completely illegal and punishable.
100% agree. It is absolutely pointless honking continuously in bumper-to-bumper traffic that too in the evening times. It does nothing other than increase the stress levels of other drivers on the road. I hope the car with the dashcam will learn to adopt more defensive driving. With these aggressive moves he will only gain more contempt from others on the road rather than gain time.
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Old 10th September 2024, 15:19   #1103
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What an unwanted and unnecessary incident!. Totally uncalled for!.

All this car guy had to do was hang on for a second and slowly move to his right as there is nothing called 'right of way' or any blah blah in India. It is all about having a good understanding with people around.

There are bound to be some close calls here and there and that does not mean you honk the daylights out of others.

In that kind of traffic, who wants to go where first?. You will end up only switching left and right and center without increasing speed. .
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Old 26th September 2024, 13:34   #1104
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I’m writing this post to share an incident that happened to us and a related story I came across in the news.

Every day, driving in Bangalore, I encounter morons who think it’s perfectly fine to drive or ride on the wrong side of the road. They block traffic, create jams, and ironically, end up slowing themselves down. What’s worse is they leave barely any space, so you risk scratching your car, and if you don’t squeeze aside, they get aggressive, as if it’s your fault.

About three months ago, my wife was on her way home and found herself in one of these situations. A horde of bikes came rushing from the wrong side, waiting for their signal to turn green, leaving her with almost no room to go. She chose to patiently wait until their signal turned green. While she was waiting, a man—seemingly decent at first—stepped out of an auto-rickshaw behind her, walked up to her front window, and started banging on it, shouting, "Crazy lady, go ahead!" My poor wife was completely unnerved and, feeling intimidated, struggled to inch forward through the swarm of bikes and autos clogging the wrong side.

The only "damage" in this case was intimidation, but there was nothing we could do. There was no physical harm, and we had no way to trace the man responsible.

Fast forward to today morning, when I came across this video of an army man giving a spanking to this chump riding the wrong way. Although I am never for anybody taking the law into their own hands (I'm still not, even for this), I am guilty of having a smile of satisfaction for a moment seeing one of these wrong way clowns being at the receiving end of a stick.

Links to video and article:

https://x.com/ThePlacardGuy/status/1...-12807190.html

https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/tr...-12807190.html

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I tried looking on this thread if this has been posted before, but couldn't find it. Mods, apologies and please don't hesitate to delete this if it is a repetition.
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Old 26th September 2024, 14:07   #1105
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While she was waiting, a man—seemingly decent at first—stepped out of an auto-rickshaw behind her, walked up to her front window, and started banging on it, shouting,
Lowest of low slime these people are. There is something about a woman behind the wheel that triggers a lot of men on our roads. And this is not really a new phenomenon, my mom used to drive in Bangalore in the 80s and the 90s, enough men have shown their attitude back then too, there was nothing gentlemanly about those days.

Automatically most guys think they are better drivers (in their minds, "rash/fast=better"). Which would be ok, if they stayed in their world, but they are also quick to get aggressive with women.

Just yesterday evening, I saw this stream of bikes coming out of a tech park area, going the wrong way. One idiot on an Activa was blocking a lady driver because he wanted to cross the road and get on the wrong side! When she gestured to him to just move across quick, since she had to stop and block traffic, idiot started yelling something at her. I was on my bike and couldn't stay silent, yelled at him. Idiot switched his abuse to me, she drove off, and after a few verbal exchanges with me, he rode off too. Helpless traffic warden just watched. I don't blame him, they are overwhelmed. Anyway, my aim was to stop the idiot on the Activa from engaging with her.

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Old 28th September 2024, 13:53   #1106
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My reaction to his antics was purely reflex as in “Bro careful, I am here too”. Which was enough for that drama.

You are right, it is best to maintain distance from dangerous and dumb drivers and riders.

I've realized that the best approach is to avoid any form of engagement. Even a friendly word can escalate into a full-blown issue. It's best to leave idiots to their own fate. Eventually, they'll face the consequences. Just stay safe, drive defensively, and be extra cautious specially when riding a two-wheeler.
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Old 30th September 2024, 10:26   #1107
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Re: Road Rage - Understanding, Avoidance and De-escalating Situation

Well handled. Over time i have realized that road rage leads only to self destruction. I used to get easily offended at people cutting me off or bumping into me but now i have learnt that best way out is to have dashcam and to stay out of trouble at all costs. Small incidents can lead to grevious harm or even death in today's scenario. I guess its just maturity.
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Old 6th October 2024, 00:02   #1108
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Came across this news piece. A Pune techie and his wife chased and attacked by a mob of approx 4 local goons.
The story gets weird when the police try to accuse the family itself for not stopping their car.
https://www.instagram.com/p/DApeXWMvYS4/?hl=en
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Came across this news piece. A Pune techie and his wife chased and attacked by a mob of approx 4 local goons.
The story gets weird when the police try to accuse the family itself for not stopping their car.
https://www.instagram.com/p/DApeXWMvYS4/?hl=en
Even I saw this video and it is scary as hell. And the response from police is also pathetic to say the least. Why should I stop my car at midnight when some guys with rods try to stop me when I am with my family. I am at a loss of words.
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