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Old 16th December 2018, 20:28   #61
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The last news I heard was this will be mandatory for all cars sold from April/May 2019 onwards. Currently, the testing facilities are being setup(In addition to Arai). However, with elections around the same time, I guess this will be Tom-tomed as something the current government enabled in about a couple of months. Links -
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhar...ssment_Program

http://www.natrip.in
I sincerely hope that BNVSAP gets implemented at least in 2019. A note of a caution : Wikipedia can be edited by anyone and hence shouldn't be considered as a reliable source of information.
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I sincerely hope that BNVSAP gets implemented at least in 2019. A note of a caution : Wikipedia can be edited by anyone and hence shouldn't be considered as a reliable source of information.
Thanks Murthy. Wikipedia is the first entry when you search for the BNVSAP. I came to know of it when I was browsing something else. Looked it up and from there the link to natrip.in. Searched for it on TBHP and added to the conversation here so people know and can track it.
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This video features the 2019 Volvo XC90/BMW X5/Audi Q7 doing a crash test, which may be of interest.

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Are Safety norms now applicable for all vehicles from October 1st? There has been absolutely no communication / clarification of crash test ratings from any manufacturer. Are these not be displayed just like ARAI fuel efficiency ratings? Does the law require test ratings to be made public?
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Are Safety norms now applicable for all vehicles from October 1st? There has been absolutely no communication / clarification of crash test ratings from any manufacturer. Are these not be displayed just like ARAI fuel efficiency ratings? Does the law require test ratings to be made public?
That's exactly what was on my mind. The crash test videos should be made public, as well as the ratings. This will help the buyers make informed decisions.
I suppose all the available vehicles are within the norms, and some appear to be built better than other. Only the tests and ratings will have the answer.
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Are Safety norms now applicable for all vehicles from October 1st? There has been absolutely no communication / clarification of crash test ratings from any manufacturer. Are these not be displayed just like ARAI fuel efficiency ratings? Does the law require test ratings to be made public?
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That's exactly what was on my mind. The crash test videos should be made public, as well as the ratings. This will help the buyers make informed decisions.
I suppose all the available vehicles are within the norms, and some appear to be built better than other. Only the tests and ratings will have the answer.

Excellent point and worthy of being highlighted. Till recently, safety was a dirty word for most Indian manufacturers. After the implementation of the new regs, hopefully the seeds of pro-active safety practice will take root. And the crash test ratings will figure as prominently as the FE figures.
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Are Safety norms now applicable for all vehicles from October 1st? There has been absolutely no communication / clarification of crash test ratings from any manufacturer. Are these not be displayed just like ARAI fuel efficiency ratings? Does the law require test ratings to be made public?
As of now they are not. First of all they were watered down version of NCAP on behest of a few corrupt automotive industry leaders. Lastly Maruti has just launched another un-tested tin can named S-presso.
We still have time till the manufacturers of smaller cars with proper safety ratings disappear, and the 15 year car life norm is reduced to 10.
So buy something safe in the current recession based discount schemes.

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GNCAP confirms India's crash worthiness requirements tougher than US due to Pedestrian protection.

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Had some time to kill today. Hence, wanted to see if there is any correlation between Kerb weight of a car to its GNCAP safety rating.

Presenting below is a plot of Adult Occupation Protection Score versus Crash test weight. Interpretations from interested folks are welcome.

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1. Only Cars made for Indian market considered. Data taken from GNCAP website - #SafercarsforIndia
2. Car names not included in plot to keep interpretations objective.
3. Test speed for all cars is 64kmph.
4. Cars which did not have any airbags are excluded from the plot since they score zero points. Only cars with 1 airbag or more considered in the plot.
5. Some data points belong same car but different iterations.
6. Crash test weight = Kerb weight of car plus weight of crash dummies, sensors, additional wiring etc.


Crash Testing in India! The Bharat new vehicle safety assessment program-gncap_comparo.png
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Added some recent GNCAP test results to the previous post and updated the plot. X-axis is now Kerb weight (kg) instead of Crash test weight.

Crash Testing in India! The Bharat new vehicle safety assessment program-gncap_comparo1.png


Key Points:
1. Only Cars made for Indian market considered. Data taken from GNCAP website - #SafercarsforIndia
2. Test speed for all cars is 64kmph.
3. Cars which did not have any airbags are excluded from the plot since they score zero points. Only cars with 1 airbag or more considered in the plot.
4. Some data points belong same car but different iterations.
5. Kerb weight of Diesel variant considered as default. Weight of petrol variant taken for cars which are sold only in petrol (WagonR, Kwid etc.). All kerb weights taken from TBHP official reviews.
6. Orange broken line indicates linear curve fit over all data points. Solid red and green line added parallel to broken orange line to get an approximate idea of lower and upper bounds.




Crash Testing in India! The Bharat new vehicle safety assessment program-gncap_comparo2.png

1. Maruti-Suzuki: Black marker
2. Hyundai: Red marker
3. Tata: Yellow marker

Top 3 cars sold in India
Expected Adult occupation protection score: 7 to 12.5 (Mean = 10)
Given past track record of OEM, my expectation is around 8 (borderline between 2 star and 3 star)
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India-centric NCAP need of the hour: experts at ICAT seminar.

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The establishment of an India-specific Bharat NCAP (later expanded in scope to BNVSAP or Bharat New Vehicle Assessment Program) has been spoken of since the time of the first Global NCAP crash tests in 2014 but nothing concrete has come of it as yet. As at ICAT, India now even has the facilities to conduct various types of crash tests and post-crash analysis. A crash test rating for all cars would put an end to often unfounded arguments for or against a model’s crash worthiness and would equip buyers with objective information to buy safe. A good safety rating becomes a key product differentiator. And that can only be good news for manufacturers and buyers alike.

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