Re: ASEAN NCAP results? Star Ratings / AOP figures / Analysis of a bigger picture? Quote:
Originally Posted by vibbs I would also like to commend the fact that VW imediately introduced airbags in all Polo variants in India. So just with one test, Hatchback buyers in India suddenly got a car that has 4 star safety across its variant range. |
True. That effort by VW has to be appreciated. But we can't really be sure of the 4-star safety unless the particular versions are crash tested here in India. However, the kerb weights being similar is surely a positive sign. Quote:
Originally Posted by vibbs So is that a possible chink in armour for NCAP or is there still more to it than meets eye? |
There might be more to it than meets the eye, but till then - it looks a chink in the armour. I have provided another example in the previous post where it looks the like AOP ratings go against the impact analysis provided by ASEAN NCAP. Quote:
Originally Posted by Astleviz Another thing to consider is that these ratings are not absolute- just because 2 cars have similar ratings does not mean they are equally safe. Euro NCAP tests are designed to simulate a car crashing into another vehicle of similar weight and structure (The 2 vehicles weighing withing 150 kg of each other). So the tests tell us what happens to the occupants if a Honda City crashes into another C segment car like City, Fiesta or Vento. Or when a Q7 crashes into a Range Rover or another Q7. The ratings are meaningful only while comparing cars within a segment. But if a higher rated C segment car like City or Fiesta crashed into a lower rated SUV like the previous generation Range Rover (4 star), the occupants of the C segment car are likely to incur more injuries than those in the SUV.
An an aside, interesting to note that the Smart fortwo, a super mini and the previous generation Range Rover, both have a 4 star rating. But if both these cars crashed into each other at 64 kmph, which car would you want to be in? |
Thanks for raising this very valid point. I do not have the proper answer for it now. Hopefully, can find some relevant material for it, or someone with knowledge on the field can chip in. As a starting point, NCAP clearly states " In fact, the occupants of the heavier car or the car with higher structure tend to fare better than the occupants in lighter and lower car." Quote:
Originally Posted by saket77 Now, being in the field of quantitative research and analytics, what we do to overcome this problem is to assign 'weights' to all parameters which are a part of testing. |
Correct. And thats why is surprising that chest consists of one body region, while legs and femur form two different body regions capable of bringing down results even more.
Waiting for your analysis. Quote:
Originally Posted by Shreyans_Jain Also, I will take the very relevance of these tests with a pinch of salt considering how cars like the Nano and i10 that are actually sold in India failed crash tests, despite their international models clearing them previously.
Test the cars that are actually sold here, their base models, and you'll have my attention. |
True. If you have been following the 'sheet metal' thread, I have been one of the first to state the point of Indian cars being not build upto these international standards. However, dropped that point for this thread because we have an active thread discussing the same now.
Base models of most Indian cars - except may be the Polo and the Micra (standard driver airbag) might not score anything more than 1 stars in the tests - mostly because of the absence of airbags. We can't expect more unless a crash test facility gets opened in India.
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