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I guess in these Monocoque cars it is pretty tough to retro fit a roll cage without doing major modifications which in themselves would cause the vehicle to become road-illegal. Then there is the question of a badly constructed roll cage which will actually do more harm than good to the occupant in the event of a crash. Personally I wouldn't care much to end up impaled on a roll cage spar, like a rabbit on a spit! | |
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1.They don't have inertia reel, so you can't simply go in and strap yourself. It takes some time. If multiple users drive the car, it becomes even more tricky since each driver will adjust seat in different positions. 2.A 3 point inertia reel belt is self adjusting, does not require special seat holes and can cope (to some degree) with different seat angles. 3.Effectively using a 5 point harness in a road car would make the car a 2 seater only-as most cars in India have a bench seat in rear. 4.With a properly used 5 pt harness you will never get close to the airbag. It will deploy few inches in front of your face. All you'll get is a facefull of powdered catalyst and an echo in your ears. 5.Airbags are designed to protect people who don't wear seatbelts. Hence the 2-stage design. If you are wearing your belts you don't usually need the full force the bag can deliver. The entire safety system in a vehicle is designed to work together. Belts stretch, pretensioners deploy to take out the slack, and the airbag keeps your face out of the windshield. But a Harness renders all of that useless as you're rigidly strapped into your seat. Also 597bhp Ferrari 458 Speciale comes with 4 pt harness from the factory. Quote:
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Airbags deploy at a speed of >300 kmph, so if you're not restrained with seatbelts, the airbags will smash your face or even kill you, causing more damage than a steering wheel would. Don't get fooled by the term AIRbag. Air coming at you at that velocity can be deadly. Maybe a 458 Speciale comes with a 4 point harness because it's made mainly for the track. The regular 458 (not sure of the power figures) does come with regular seatbelts, so do a lot of other cars with more than 600 bhp on tap. Harnesses are racing gear! It can't replace airbags in a passenger car! Apologies for straying off topic..! | |
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In 1981, Mercedes-Benz introduced the airbag in Germany as an option on its high-end S-Class (W126). In the Mercedes system, the sensors would automatically pre-tension the seat belts to reduce occupant's motion on impact (now a common feature), and then deploy the airbag on impact. This integrated the seat belts and airbag into a restraint system, rather than the airbag being considered an alternative to the seat belt. In 1987, the Porsche 944 turbo became the first car to have driver and passenger airbags as standard equipment. The Porsche 944 and 944S had this as an available option. The same year also saw the first airbag in a Japanese car, the Honda Legend. you can refer here for more info. | ||
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| ![]() Sadly the only AT in the list is the underwhelming Ford EcoSport AT. That is until the XUV500 AT makes its appearance. What's with the manufacturers that they shy away from offering AT on top-spec? IMHO a Creta top-end AT with the addition of a sun-roof would have been the largest selling variant! |
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Absolutely agree with you there. The xuv AT is eagerly awaited. Meanwhile IMHO the sun roof in the creta is a cosmetic addition and understand the need to shelf it for cost issues. The absence of 6 airbags on the AT is appalling and shows the cost cutting on a very important safely aspect. | |
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| ![]() A Court in Assam has taken cognizance of the poor safety levels for the small cars sold to consumers by applying a blanket ban on small cars that don't meet crash-test norms in the state. Link "... The petitioners said crash tests such as the Global New Car Assessment Programme (NCAP), which are followed in Europe and developed markets, should apply to cars sold in Assam because higher safety standards are required in mountainous regions. Addressing the concerns raised, the high court on June 26 barred all manufacturers from selling cars that did not meet crash-test norms, affecting about 140 models. ..." As expected car manufacturers are addressing the situation by pointing out the delayed timeline for rules implementation in India rather than trying to expedite the process to improve the safety levels. "... Companies have time till 2017, when India adopts these standards and all manufacturers would have to comply," said a senior auto executive, preferring not to be identified as the matter is sub judice. The next hearing in the case is coming up on August 27." |
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| ![]() Time to update this thread. Here's the side curtain air bag status on a few cars I researched AVAILABLE: INNOVA: Only in ZX trim Endeavour: Only in Titanium trim Fortuner: In all trims Jetta: All trims Camry: All trims Creta: Only in one variant, not available in Auto Hexa NOT AVAILABLE: Corolla Ciaz City Pajero Sport |
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| ![]() Here are some more of them in top variants 1) Ford Ecosport 2) Ford Figo - Hatch 3) Ford Figo - Aspire |
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| ![]() Hyundai i20 active SX both petrol and diesel come with curtain airbags. |
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Adding more details on the availability of 6 airbags in the yet to be launched Hexa. Hexa XT, XTA, and XT 4X4 come with front and rear side curtain airbags (in addition to the dual front airbags). XTA and XT 4X4 may actually cost more than 15 lakhs (as these are the top 2 variants and Hexa's estimated cost is between 13 and 18 lakhs) and thus be out of scope as far as this thread is concerned, but XT may still fall within the Sub-15 lakh range. |
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| ![]() City ZX launched today joins the list with 6 airbags with ex-showroom Delhi price of 13.5 lacs approx. |
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Senior - BHPian ![]() | ![]() What newer car comes with 6+ airbags and a diesel auto? |
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