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Buyers always had that power but sadly majority of them don't want to pay a premium for safety features. Jago grahak jago campaign is all about consumer education. Quote:
This lack of common sense is the reason I said that safety features in a car and stricter laws must be made mandatory otherwise people will simply choose the lower priced airbag, ABS less variants. | |||
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yes, I agree. in fact in all my previous posts, I have been saying that government intervention is essential. The following news item appeared in Economic Times (e-paper) dated 31st March 2015. [FONT="]31 March 2015, 11:52 PM IST[/FONT] [FONT="] NEW DELHI: With the dawn of financial year 2015-16 India has taken another step towards road safety. Government of India has made it mandatory for all commercial vehicles (bus & trucks) manufactured on April 1, 2015 onward to have anti braking system. ABS helps control vehicles during emergency braking at high speeds by unlocking the wheels and allowing traction control by electronic distribution of pressure to wheels. So far the safety feature was mandatory only for the commercial vehicles carrying petroleum and explosive items. Since 2006, ABS has been obligatory for 40- and 49-tonne tractor-trailers. The new law will bring a wide range of commercial vehicles under the mandatory ABS fitment which brings a good news for auto component industry. [/FONT] It is good that Government has added safety in the commercial vehicles. Its time that the government should make the following safety features in all the cars mandatory:-
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![]() It is time to reintroduce public executions for people like that. Medieval nasty stuff: heads on stakes outside the showrooms, with signs like "This idiot thought "city" driving isn't dangerous." Talk like that costs lives. | |
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| ![]() The basic questions from a car buyer's perspective are two: 1) How effective are safety equipment- both active and passive- like crumple zones, intrusion bars, airbags, ABS, ESP, VSC etc. are in the event of an accident. My take would be: You never know. Accidents are just that. Accidents. You may escape from a head on collision by 1/10th of a second. Or be saved from being pushed over a ledge by 1 inch or less. In such cases, any- I repeat ANY safety equipment, any safety factor, anything can help. What saves you you may never know. So whatever is available, we need every one of those safety features in every vehicle, every situation, and every occasion. 2) The factor of cost. What would be the cost implication of safety, percentage wise? Can we put a price on our lives, on well being and safety? No. So the discussion of cost is irrelevant. Simply factor in the cost of safety features when calculating the price/ affordability of your car purchase. I fail to see it in any other way. Last edited by Yeldo : 22nd May 2016 at 15:51. |
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![]() But seriously, it is a very good move by the government to introduce these safety features on CV. But the first step should be to instruct the drivers to wear seatbelts. Make it compulsory. All bus passengers too must wear seatbelts if provided. | |
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![]() Equipment which is designed to help avoid accidents is another matter. It is tested, and we can see tests of stuff like ABS and ESP. Quote:
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| ![]() That Kwid crash video is chilling. The cabin just folds like paper. It's super light weight always raised questions about it's lack of safety and now the tests confirm it. It's incredible how human lives are less important than SUV looks and fuel efficiency. |
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| ![]() Lets take an example, Baleno has ABS & airbags standard across all variants. So any buyer of Baleno, whether they choose base, mid or top end variant is relatively safer for themselves (airbags) and others (ABS). But a buyer of base variant of say a Dzire or Swift generally have a low budget, so they will not buy the optional safety pack even if its available as an option. This is why these must be made mandatory, not just optional. Is it possible to get the individual numbers of normal and safety pack variants in the monthly car sales thread? |
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| ![]() What I find extremely disturbing is this snippet which audioholic posted earlier and hasn't seemed to have got enough attention. Quote:
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| ![]() Ford tried to game the IIHS crash test system in the USA with their F150: http://blog.caranddriver.com/iihs-20...-extended-cab/ Clearly no manufacturer is above unethical behaviour, whether it's safety, emissions or performance. |
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In other news, manufacturers are "questioning" the timing of these tests, saying that soon new norms are coming in india. Current versions did not need to be tested.They are basically saying that the new cars will be able to comply with the norms? Ok, First: You are capable of reengineering your cars in the next 18 odd months? ![]() Second: If so, then why have you been putting this stuff out for the last few decades? Last edited by mayankk : 23rd May 2016 at 10:35. | |
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We might even see a flurry of new launches before October 2017 to beat the deadlines. Then again, the proposed Bharat NCAP norms will only be voluntary. ![]() I think we can totally expect the scenario where a new customer prefers a car from the higher segment with no rating against one which has passed the voluntary tests from a segment below. Quote:
Yes, that's the bigger question! The answer for which lies in profitability. Last edited by deetjohn : 23rd May 2016 at 10:45. Reason: adding text. | ||
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I feel when a person goes to get his Driver's permit, he should first be shown videos of crash tests, and real crash victims from 1 star till 5 star rated cars. I am sure a majority of the buyers today are uninformed people, who are further screwed over by low-IQ/unscrupulous sales people, who get away with the "In-city" uselessness of AntiBrakingSystem and Airbags on which you bounce off and can geta hurta real bad. Even after someone has seen a mangled victim, and still goes ahead with the 0 star bigger car? Well, his funeral (puntended). | ||
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youtube has hoard of crash videos, involving Indian adventurists. such videos will make a person realise that ' You only live Twice' is true only about James Bond. For normal human beings, loss of life, loss of limbs or other sufferings come after major accidents. | |
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