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The Argo was refused to be given voluntarily by FIAT for LATIN NCAP test. ![]() | |
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| ![]() Is it bad for any car to score zero stars in safety tests? Absolutely yes! But how relevant is this for our market, or how does it impact us? I would say it’s negligible. Less than 100 units move out of the showroom every month, and it’s as safe/unsafe as many other big sellers in our market. Think of it – for every Punto (or derived models) sold, there are around 60-80 Kwids, 140 Wagon Rs and so on sold in Indian market. |
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Attaching 2005 documents which had different results than the 2017 in terms of driver injuries etc. Something doesn't seem legitimate if you see two files back to back. | |
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![]() Anyways all the cars sold in India would be crash tested. The norms might not be strict for sure. But that would be good enough for comparison. If Punto is still on sale, it would be interesting to see how it scores against light weight but modern chassis cars like Baleno, Swift etc. I believe the results would be similar to Euro NCAP. The scoring system is different. Whiplash injuries were not considered in 2005 test as per the report. Both 2005 and 2017 reports say poor protection of femur. The 2005 car even had side airbags. I don't think anything is wrong, it's just the new norms and scoring pattern. Last edited by Dr.Naren : 14th December 2017 at 16:25. | |
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| ![]() Fiat group doesn't have such a great reputation in its home turf. Fiat-Lancia-Alfa Romeos are outnumbered by large margin by VW, Citroen, Peugeot. A zero rating on a well known model, is only going to bring the brand image down further. |
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| ![]() It's alarming situation for Fiat to pull up their socks and brace themselves to be in the race if at all they are interested in taking the Fiat legacy ahead. Indian market of-lately has become dumping ground for many manufactures from all across the globe. Products like Datsun Go & Go + both will get NCAP rating in multiples of negatives. I wonder how they get okay-ed to be sold in Indian market. Indian government plans to set up its own safety authority, the Bharat National Car Assessment Programme (BNCAP), which will rate vehicles on safety. How generous or stringent they will be, time only will reveal.Our Govt. needs to value the human life, agreed we are the most populated country but "life is a life" and to save one we must have stricter norms and parameters in place. 2018 October is the deadline for all auto manufacturer to equip all their products with ABS, Airbag & speed warning alarm. I hope and wish they stick to the deadline given, they have been deferring this time and again. |
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Have also seen VW and Fiat cars in similar and more fiercer accidents in India. The occupants are still alive to tell the great stories - without whiplash ![]() | |
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| ![]() And till now I was thinking this thread is about the FIAT Punto receiving 0 Stars in Euro NCAP rating? Invariably, despite of the fact that we have been having a very healthy discussion till now with some valid points with justifications from each one, we seem to have taken the same path again - The path to malign anyone else who even scored marginally better based on today's test criteria by NCAP by simply referring to images and experiences in the past and completely ignoring how 2 cars fare in terms of rating by the same agency where one is on an old platform while the rest (whichever are being discussed) are on a supposedly modern platform! Trust me, this won't end and we all know that history repeats. I am sure we will get to the extent to say Europeans usually don't drive full house and hence fatalities are less while we Indians have a habit to stock up the car with maximum passengers and drive dangerously and hence we witness more deaths. My own experience says the Punto is a real Solid car and very rarest of the rare cases I have seen anyone losing lives or experiencing serious injuries. Fact of the matter today: The same Punto has apparently scored less, as per today's criteria by NCAP where others have fared better. I am more than sure that the newer platform of Punto might easily score better than the Baleno or the Swift or even the S-Cross? But then, please release that soon, test that and we will then discuss why the current Swift or Baleno are unsafe against the newer Punto, when that happens. |
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But truly its great that the norms are getting stricter and tough forcing the manufacturers to build better and safer cars for us. Huge applauds to manufacturers like Volvo who provide the best safety assists. Fiat should upgrade themselves and push the new platform aggressively. They have no future in India, but atleast they should manage affairs in Europe going forward. | ||
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Hmm, its interesting how they are lethargic while other companies under FCA have been putting out newer models. Last edited by Technocrat : 14th December 2017 at 19:38. | |
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