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Old 9th January 2018, 11:10   #121
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Re: Government to take strict action against bull bars & crash guards

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The Government of India's Ministry for Road Transport and Highways has issued a fresh notification deeming bull bars & crash guards as unauthorised fitments which are in contravention of Section 52 of the Motor Vehicles Act, 1988, and thus attract penalties under Sections 190 & 191 of the Motor Vehicles Act, 1988.

Thus, the Ministry has instructed all States and Union Territories to take strict action against any/all vehicles fitted with crash guards and bull bars.

How do we infer that this applies to Rear Guards as well, we don't have a front guard deployed due to (a) danger to pedestrians, (b) engine damage possibility in case of accident and (c) covering of sensors; however rear guards don't have these peculiarities and actually save the cars' rear in bumper to bumper traffic, does one need to file a RTI to find out the applicability and if yes, to who ?

The notice being cited refers to guards that are most probably front guards... that's why the query ?

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Re: Government to take strict action against bull bars & crash guards

I hope that they tackle the flag masts that most government and politician cars have. Those are lethal
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Bullbar dealer takes Indian government to court against ban
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Mohammed Arif, said to be a manufacturer and dealer of bullbars, has sought to implead himself in a public interest litigation (PIL) filed by Aarshi Kapoor and Sidharth Bagla, which claimed that bullbars interfere in the opening of airbags, and also have the potential to injure/kill pedestrians and other road users.
Mr. Arif has a different take on it and has claimed that the Indian government’s decision to ban bullbars has no legality. In an application to the Delhi High Court, he has claimed that there is no rule, law or bye-law dealing with accessories such as crash guards or bull bars, and due to this, the government’s decision to ban bullbars is illegal.

In his application to the court, Mr. Arif has also pointed out that fitment of bullbars don’t fall under the purview of the Section 52 of the Motor Vehicles Act, which he claims deals with only modification of a vehicle, and not with after-market fitments such as bullbars.
The Delhi High Court’s two judge bench comprising of Acting Chief Justice Gita Mittal and Justice C Hari Shankar, has asked the Ministry of Road Transport and Highways (MORTH) to respond. The court has also observed that ‘human life is more important than installation of bull bars’.

Now, it’s up to the court to interpret the law in the MVA and decide whether the Indian government ban on bullbars is legally sound. From the initial observations made by the two judge bench of the Delhi High Court though, it appears as if the court is more in favour of the ban than against it. The matter will be heard on the 6th of February, 2018.

A lot of after-market accessory makers in India are engaged in building bullbars for cars and SUVs. The bullbar is one of the most popular after-market accessory, and the ban – if upheld by the court – is likely to affect a lot of accessory makers adversely. This is why many accessory makers have been up in arms against this decision of the Union road transport ministry.
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Re: Government to take strict action against bull bars & crash guards

The courts banned sunfilms which were hardly a threat to human life and that adversely affected a lot of livelihoods. I don't think bull bar ban is going to affect the livelihood of many auto stores workers that badly. It will dent the pockets of the few manufacturers yes, but not affect the wage earner as badly as the sunfilm ban did, IMHO. On the contrary there are enough scientific data out there to explain why bull bars are dangerous, specifically to the pedestrians. Hopefully the courts do the right thing and bless the ban.
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Old 10th January 2018, 21:21   #125
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Re: Government to take strict action against bull bars & crash guards

Well, a dealer has already filed a PIL.

https://www.cartoq.com/bullbar-deale...t-against-ban/
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I have seen several cars since last few days with bull bars having been removed. In some cars, the support for the bull bars are protruding out of the bumper like a knife and appear to be more dangerous than the bull bar itself. Hope those are looked upon strictly and stern action taken to enforce removal of the same as well promptly.
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Re: Government to take strict action against bull bars & crash guards

Spotted cops halting cars with bull bars installed here in Mumbai, Noting down their number and letting them go, Maybe they would be issuing an online challan or probably some sort of survey? All of this was happening on the LBS marg route in Mumbai & i saw it happening least for like half an hour from my room, Only cars they stopped which had bull bars on them.

I believe its a good move though, Only because of the fact that it interferes with the airbag deployment function.
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Cars sporting crash gaurds to be fine 1K as per newsGovernment to take strict action against bull bars & crash guards-imageuploadedbyteambhp1516335751.602001.jpg

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Government bans crash guards and bull bars fitted on vehicles

The Central Government has asked the States to take stringent actions against unauthorised fitments of crash guards or bull bars in vehicles, on the ground that such attachment pose serious safety concerns to the pedestrians as well as occupants of the vehicle, and are installed in violation of Section 52 of the Motor Vehicles Act, 1988 and also attract penalty under Sections 190 and 191 of the Motor Vehicles Act, 1988.

Section 190 of the Motor Vehicles Act, 1988 mentions that

"any person who drives or causes or allows to be driven, in any public place a motor vehicle, which violates the standards prescribed in relation to road safety, control of noise and air-pollution, shall be punishable for the first offence with a fine of Rs 1,000 and for any second or subsequent offence with a fine of Rs 2,000".

Section 191 prescribes,

"Whoever being an importer of or dealer in motor vehicles, sells or delivers or offers to sell or deliver a motor vehicle or trailer in such condition that the use thereof in a public place would be in contravention of Chapter VII or any rule made thereunder or alters the motor vehicle or trailer so as to render its conditions such that its use in a public place would be in contravention of Chapter VII or any rule made thereunder shall be punishable with fine which may extend to Rs 5,000".

Source | SCC Online Blog | 19th January 2018
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Re: Government to take strict action against bull bars & crash guards

Bull bar ban STAYED by Delhi High Court.

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In a rather surprising move, the Delhi High Court has decided to put a stay on the Centre’s notification that directed all states to take action against all the cars and SUVs that have been fitted with a bullbar
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it has ordered that no challans can be issued for the usage of bullbars till April 18, which is the next date of hearing
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Bull bar ban STAYED by Delhi High Court.
That is very disappointing news.
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Re: Government to take strict action against bull bars & crash guards

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That is very disappointing news.
Looks like standard procedure, this would be to give time for both sides to present the arguments / facts.

Hopefully the ban would be restored in few hearings.
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Re: Government to take strict action against bull bars & crash guards

Sad to hear the stay on the ban, why didn't any dealer or manufacturer of sun films file a petition for the ban on sunfilms.

Bull bars cause lot of harm especially to pedestrians even in slow speed accidents. They have no practical use and can't fathom what the court have against sun films but not bull bars.

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Old 13th March 2018, 09:56   #134
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Re: Government to take strict action against bull bars & crash guards

Hi All,

Read about the Stay by Delhi High court on the Centre’s notification to ban bull bars.

Link to the page as follows & the entire article quoted. All copyrights to the original webpage & its Author.

https://www.cartoq.com/bull-bar-ban-...hi-high-court/

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In a rather surprising move, the Delhi High Court has decided to put a stay on the Centre’s notification that directed all states to take action against all the cars and SUVs that have been fitted with a bullbar. This order came from the bench of Acting Chief Justice Gita Mittal and Justice C Hari Shankar, who asked the Ministry of Road Transport and Highways to re-examine this matter. Furthermore, it has ordered that no challans can be issued for the usage of bullbars till April 18, which is the next date of hearing.

“Under what power have you issued this notification? Under what law have you issued an advisory to the states to take penal action against the offenders? Till the next date, there would be a stay and no challans will be issued,” the bench said. The High Court went on to say that the Road Transport and Highway ministry hasn’t interpreted the Motor Vehicle Act properly and it needs to submit a detailed reply on this to the court. Earlier, in December last year, the Ministry had written to the Principal Secretaries, Secretaries and Commissioners, Transport of the states, saying “it is brought to your notice that the fitments of crash guards/ bull bar is in contravention of section 52 of the Motor Vehicles Act, 1988 and attracts penalty under section 190 and 191 of the Motor Vehicles Act, 1988”.

“Crash guards or bull bars on the vehicles pose serious safety concerns to the pedestrians as well as occupants of the vehicle. It is therefore requested that states may take strict action against the unauthorized fitment of crash guard/bull bar on the motor vehicles,” it had said.

Section 190 of the Motor Vehicles Act, 1988 states that any person who drives or causes or allows to be driven, in any public place a motor vehicle, which violates the standards prescribed in relation to road safety, control of noise and air-pollution, shall be punishable for the first offence with a fine of Rs 1,000 and for any second or subsequent offence with a fine of Rs 2,000.

The Delhi High Court was hearing a plea of one Mohammed Arif, who is a manufacturer and dealer of bull bars and wants a stay on the ministry’s direction to the states to impose fine on the usage of bull bars. Arif has insisted that the Centre’s decision to ban bullbars has no legality as her is no law dealing with accessories like these. Furthermore, he says that Bullbars don’t fall within the purview of Section 52 of the Motor Vehicle Act as this act pertains to customizations made to the body of the vehicle and not to extra fitments.

Section 191 prescribes, “Whoever being an importer of or dealer in motor vehicles, sells or delivers or offers to sell or deliver a motor vehicle or trailer in such condition that the use thereof in a public place would be in contravention of Chapter VII or any rule made thereunder or alters the motor vehicle or trailer so as to render its conditions such that its use in a public place would be in contravention of Chapter VII or any rule made thereunder shall be punishable with fine which may extend to Rs 5,000.”

One needs to note here that the latest directive from the High Court is only a stay, which means that at best, it’s a temporary relief for bullbar users. The Government is very likely to put up a better defense in the next hearing. Also, if the court still decids to lift the ban on the usage of bullbars, the Government can always introduce an amendment in the Motor Vehicle Act to ban bullbars.

PS: Mods I realized late that Volkman10 has already shared this. Feel free to delete this post. OR you can leave the quoted article if appropriate.

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Re: Government to take strict action against bull bars & crash guards

Is it just me, or is the government only against installing bullbars on the front of vehicles? I am pondering whether to get a rear-end crashguard fitted onto my TUV 300. Can anyone please clarify?

In the TOI article pic posted by ShaileshHinge, there is an explicit mention of front guards being considered illegal.
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