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Old 16th November 2018, 09:59   #76
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Full report of the ASEAN NCAP tests - Suzuki Swift



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Old 23rd December 2018, 19:38   #77
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Maruti swift is the Indian Car of the Year (ICOTY) -2019!!
Surprising and Disappointing for a car with 2-star ratings and unsafe body shell to be the car of the year.
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Old 24th December 2018, 10:30   #78
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Maruti swift is the Indian Car of the Year (ICOTY) -2019!!
Surprising and Disappointing for a car with 2-star ratings and unsafe body shell to be the car of the year.
The test car is from Thailand or Japan make. Not sure even if 2 star will hold good for Indian model.
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Thanks to Subin Philip for sending this information in. Heartfelt gratitude for sharing it with other enthusiasts via this Team-BHP page!
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I need to point out that the reason for the bad crash test results of the Swift is not because of the HEARTECT platform. It’s because of the lack of Suzuki TECT Body. Many users in the Team-BHP forum even in the new Wagon R forum are bashing the latest platform without knowing the real reason. All cars with Suzuki TECT Body will pass the NCAP test and all cars sold in the Nexa showrooms come with the Suzuki TECT Body as given in the brochure. You need to point out this difference. The new Swift or the new Ertiga do not have a Suzuki TECT Body and so they will fail the test for structural stability.

The Brezza on the other hand has Suzuki TECT Body and that's why it passed the NCAP test. The same TECT is available with all cars sold in Nexa showrooms. And so I am sure that they all will pass the NCAP test if tested.
Baleno:
New Maruti Swift gets just 2-stars in the Global NCAP-screenshot-20190107-10.47.19-am.png

Swift:
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Brezza:
New Maruti Swift gets just 2-stars in the Global NCAP-screenshot-20190107-10.49.32-am.png

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All three parts of this statement are unsupported by any proof:
1. HEARTECT platform is already very weak ... Maruti says otherwise.
2. ...and add to that the Wagon body ... WagonR is NOT based on HEARTECT platform.
3. which is already very unstable... any supporting proof?
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HEARTECT platform is already very weak, is supported by the fact that about numerous crash test performed by euro-NCAP which has tested Maruti cars, which are based on this platform and they have been found to be scoring lesser stars compared to the ones without them (Baleno-based on HEARTECT platform has scored lesser compared to Vitara Brezza - non HEARTECT platform).
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The passenger compartment remained stable in the frontal offset test. Dummy readings indicated good protection of the knees and femurs of both the driver and passenger. Suzuki showed that a similar level of protection would be provided to occupants of different sizes and to those sat in different positions. In the full-width rigid barrier impact, protection of the driver was rated as good except for the chest, protection of which was adequate.
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The protection offered to the driver and passenger head and neck was good. Driver chest showed weak protection while passenger chest showed adequate protection. Driver’s knees showed marginal protection and passenger’s knees marginal and adequate protection as they could impact with dangerous structures behind the dashboard supported by the Tranfascia tube. The bodyshell was rated as unstable and it was not capable of withstanding further loadings. The car offers standard SBR for driver but it does not meet the minimum requirements ABS.

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Old 7th January 2019, 11:24   #80
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Thanks to Subin Philip for sending this information in.
Interesting observation Subin. Thanks for sending this in!

As I can see, all cars in their NEXA lineup claim to have TECT body in place, whereas in the Arena lineup - Brezza is the only exceptional case.
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Old 7th January 2019, 12:30   #81
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Well nice to know that the Suzuki Tect would PASS the GNCAP. Now it is time Maruti can have their models tested to show the marks sheet. Hoping to see them atleast with distinction if not a rank like nexon :-)

Maybe six airbags coming in refreshed models ?

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The new Ertiga is not based on the heartect platform? How will this affect the top end version to be launched from nexa?
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Hoping to see them atleast with distinction if not a rank like nexon :-)
Brezza has already proved it with a four star rating. Pretty good like the previous Nexon, before it raised the bar yet again.

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top end version to be launched from nexa?
Still just a rumour. I personally don't see how they'll place only the top end version of a car in a separate showroom network.

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Yeah, that was good from maruti. I meant the baleno, ciaz and rest in nexa, so that it comes on record for any prospective buyer avoiding these by suspecting their light build. Advertising advantage too, am sure Maruti wants that after everyone now shows a star rating for crashes.

The points the Nexon scored looked impressive though.
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The new Ertiga is not based on the heartect platform? How will this affect the top end version to be launched from nexa?
I thought its based on Heartect platform! Is it the same old swift's platform then?
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As I can see, all cars in their NEXA lineup claim to have TECT body in place, whereas in the Arena lineup - Brezza is the only exceptional case.
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I thought its based on Heartect platform! Is it the same old swift's platform then?
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The new Ertiga is not based on the heartect platform?
Ertiga is on HEARTECT Platform

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Ertiga is on HEARTECT Platform
But they don't claim Suzuki TECT body for Ertiga, as compare to Brezza and all of their NEXA cars.
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But they don't claim Suzuki TECT body for Ertiga, as compare to Brezza and all of their NEXA cars.
Which will mean ‘unstable structure’ in the making. So we can expect the same unstable structure result in the crash tests for Ertiga too. But people will not care even after knowing these detailed information, I am expecting hell lot of ‘I booked the new Ertiga’ even in this thread also
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Do we have a side-by-side chassis comparison of a HEARTECT model sold in India and abroad (say, the India and Euro-spec Swift)?

I'm inclined to think there are design and/or material compromises on the India-specific model, so we may not even be getting the full benefits of the new platform, limited as they may be to begin with.

HEARTECT cars seem and feel poorly built but I'd like to see some platform/chassis level evidence.
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