[anumod]

Of course in this case the ksrtc driver is the culprit, but the Mvd and police should send a strong message to the truck driver as well. None of the slow moving vehicle should go on the right lane . That made the context for this incident.

[shancz]

The actions if the bus driver show the intent and also raises a much needed doubt in minds when we hear "2 youths on a sports bike" crashed.
They're not always wrong, there is another side to the incident aa well.

Responsible and excellent action by the OP.
Thanks

[tharian]

Originally Posted by anumod

Of course in this case the ksrtc driver is the culprit, but the Mvd and police should send a strong message to the truck driver as well. None of the slow moving vehicle should go on the right lane . That made the context for this incident.

I wouldn't blame the truck driver. He was at the wrong place at the wrong time. If he sticks to the left lane, he has to keep worrying about incidents like these all the time because of people joining onto the road without looking. And even if he was on the left lane, the exact same thing could have happened on his right side.

[MisterG]

It is horrible indeed, but is it possible that the bus driver miscalculated or wrongly assumed that the truck parked on the side (visible towards the end of the full video) is going to pull into the lane and wanted to switch lanes beforehand? Also the way he swerved looks like he was trying to over-correct the oversteer to avoid getting off the road. Either way, that was some bad driving especially by a heavy vehicle which wasted two lives.

Personally, while riding mobike, i feel it is always a good practice to stick to the middle of the lane as much as possible, keep an eye out on the RVMs and make way for any vehicle faster and bigger than yours by moving to the extreme left or right side depending on which lane one is in. It minimizes the risk to an extent as one doesn't have to worry about speeding vehicles on both sides, but just on the side they are exposed.

[harimkd]

Originally Posted by anumod

Of course in this case the ksrtc driver is the culprit, but the Mvd and police should send a strong message to the truck driver as well. None of the slow moving vehicle should go on the right lane . That made the context for this incident.

But in this particular incident, technically he did no mistake. He was overtaking a slow moving lorry from right lane and it is allowed as per rule. After that he could have moved left, but he can't do it at once. By the time the bike and bus entered the left lane which he can claim as the reason for keeping in right track. A multi axle truck can't do easy manuaer between lanes so it can be understand..
But he might have been in same track for a long time which was nirmal for truckers. Police and MVD never take any action against such trucks..

[Piyush_DT]

The bus driver overtook and turned right at the exact time to squeeze them. It's intentional and it's cold blooded murder. This is not the first time driver would have done for sure.The biker would have not known how dangerous the driver could be even if he had an altercation.

We need to remember everyday that there are some sadistic people around us who can go to any extent to take revenge or to satisfy their ego.

@harimkd We need more people like you to do the right thing.

[msdivy]

Originally Posted by SS-Traveller

Once he (the bus driver) starts to overtake the truck, the biker leads him, and suddenly slows down ahead of the bus. One can see the bike's brake light glow bright, even as the bus too brakes hard and his brake lights come on too (there is no obstruction ahead, and both lanes are clear - so obviously, the biker was harassing the bus driver). In desperation (and certainly in cold blood), the bus driver thought he would nudge the biker out of his way into the path of the truck, and speed away, even as the truck may or may not run over the biker and take the blame for the crash. His calculation went very wrong, the bike was trapped between the two large vehicles, and we see the result.

That's a good explanation of the happenings. The bus driver is no saint.

The biker had been obstructing the progress of the bus for some distance, and can be glimpsed to be leading the bus in the middle of the lane, even as the driver fruitlessly tries to weave his way past and overtake the biker. No reason for the biker to be in front of the bus, when there is plenty of road space for him to slow down and let the larger vehicle go past.

The fact is the biker had the 'power' in him to avoid this situation. But paid the final price. Does the biker get a medal or commemorative certificate for his actions? In fact, without the video evidence, it would appear the biker tried to overtake in-between 2 large vehicles and everyone would blame the biker for his death.

Hey biker, bus driver & such people, get on the road and reach your 'intended' destination. Don't bother giving lessons to others on road. Nobody is out there to learn on road.

Originally Posted by Piyush_DT

It's intentional and it's cold blooded murder.

What is the motive of the bus driver? Highly likely that the driver & biker are complete strangers. Why would somebody kill a stranger? If either of them had held on their nerves for just a minute (that is count till 60) things would have passed and there wouldn't be any situation.

[crdi]

Originally Posted by msdivy

What is the motive of the bus driver? Highly likely that the driver & biker are complete strangers. Why would somebody kill a stranger?

As per news articles, the bikers and the KSRTC driver had a heated exchange of words, sometime prior to this incident. I think the case is now being considered as intentional murder.

[Vitruvius]

Disclaimer: I did not watch the video because the explanation given prior was detailed enough for me to guess the contents. I did not want to subject myself to the mental agony of going through it on video.

Really appreciate the role of the onlooker as he had a dashcam that recorded the events in detail, and frankly is the reason why this discussion is taking place at all.

From my little experience studying forensics, I believe death by rash driving can be classified as 'culpable homicide, not amounting to murder'. As pointed by another member above, it is difficult to ascribe a motive to road rage events like these.

[msdivy]

Originally Posted by crdi

As per news articles, the bikers and the KSRTC driver had a heated exchange of words, sometime prior to this incident. I think the case is now being considered as intentional murder.

Sorry, didn't know about that. This strengthens the case against the bus driver. Pity they didn't settle their dispute out of the road.

[Piyush_DT]

Originally Posted by msdivy

What is the motive of the bus driver? Highly likely that the driver & biker are complete strangers. Why would somebody kill a stranger? If either of them had held on their nerves for just a minute (that is count till 60) things would have passed and there wouldn't be any situation.

To teach a biker a lesson. Its clearly visible that he turned right to scare the biker.

Also, lets think for a moment that they both are strangers and nothing happened earlier between them, still as a experienced driver he should know that there is biker between bus and truck so I should be careful. Also, the basic rule is never overtake the vehicle which is overtaking the other vehicle. That was also ignored by the bus driver.

[svsantosh]

This is the reason there is something called blood money in Gulf countries. Not that it would bring back any peace - but it scares the crap out of anyone doing such a move on public roads. You will be jailed for generations and penalties will run into next generation before such shit can even arise in the drivers' head.

Sadly, the driver is already back at his home now, may jolly well be reading this post on his android and sipping tea!

[Rahul Rao]

Originally Posted by anumod

Mvd and police should send a strong message to the truck driver as well. None of the slow moving vehicle should go on the right lane . That made the context for this incident.

The truck is doing about 60 km/h considering speed of convoy following it, and if you notice, that there is a much slower truck it has overtaken. After that overtake the biker, the bus and car with dash cam all have moved to the left to overtake it.

In natural course, this truck will cover minimum 50 to 70 m after the overtake and then move back to left lane. None of the vehicles behind it have the patience to wait. So, it will naturally wait for over takers to go ahead and then do so.

Next, there is a hotel on the left with parked cars as well as 2-wheeler traffic on the highway. Trucks are allowed the middle lane in such situations as well.

Rahul

[Thilak29]

Originally Posted by harimkd

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1. Sir, my humble respects to you for doing the right thing - giving it to media and then further to authorities. May your tribe grow.
2. You saved the lorry driver a lot of hassle and even a potential punishment.
3. Your evidence helped to establish the premeditated angle of the entire incident, as reported in media the driver and riders had some heated exchange prior to this and hopefully passengers of the bus can vouch for it too.

[Piyush_DT]

Governments should start giving incentives/awards to people who has dashcam installed and was able to assist in investigation. We have seen number of instances where it has happened. It will help to identify actual root cause of the accident which may help in making rules/laws/policies.