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Old 13th January 2022, 23:31   #616
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The age old question of would you risk your/your friends/family's safety over the idiot who have no regard to their own well being. My answer has always been NO. If you play stupid games, you're going to win stupid prizes. I will try to avoid the situation to the best of my abilities. But I for sure won't go out of my way to protect him/her.
Undoubtedly the person was an idiot.

At 16:55:37 seconds the truck’s brake lights come on. That should have been a warning. Mostly there are signs which need to be read. You decided to overtake the truck at the same time and sped up while avoiding the person. I can understand why you didn’t brake hard but why did you speed up? To pass the pedestrian before he could come into your path?

I agree with you in general. I’d also not risk my safety to save an idiot.

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Old 14th January 2022, 14:14   #617
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Not mine but just came across this video of two bikers on RE Bullets traversing near the Zojila Pass.
This is so painfully dangerous and unsafe at so many levels! The truck has a massive overhang made up of exposed steel rods, the rods are placed at a rearward inclined position which can easily let them slide off into traffic coming up behind, and then we have these two bikers trying to literally sniff the ends of these rods! It would have been a miracle if that truck did not kill or injure someone during that journey.
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Old 14th January 2022, 17:37   #618
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...the rods are placed at a rearward inclined position which can easily let them slide off into traffic coming up behind.
As a guideline, how much distance would you recommend (even in a car) keeping in mind that you are also looking to overtake at some point of time and the road might be similar for next couple of hours driving?
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Not mine but just came across this video of two bikers on RE Bullets traversing near the Zojila Pass.
This is extremely careless on the biker's part. First of all tailing those trucks with those massive rods hanging behind their b**t and on an incline is a dangerous and stupid thing to do. Second what was he thinking riding on the right corner in such slippery conditions. Typically the seasoned truckers in these routes know when its possible to give right of way for vehicles trailing them and they do it 9 out of 10 times religiously.

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As a guideline, how much distance would you recommend (even in a car) keeping in mind that you are also looking to overtake at some point
The guideline is quiet simple. You simply wait for them to let you pass. Zojilla pass is a nightmare even in the best of days. I speak out of experience. I have biked there 3 times so far and I can assure you, it doesn't get any easier. Safety is the only mantra that keeps you alive. Leave behind all the adrenalin in the plains. If you are planning a road trip to the hills, please consult the exhaustive posts in this forum and as well as https://www.bcmtouring.com/ which covers extensive travelogues from these parts

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As a guideline, how much distance would you recommend (even in a car) keeping in mind that you are also looking to overtake at some point of time and the road might be similar for next couple of hours driving?
To many, this is an unacceptable truth: There is a slow vehicle in front of you, and it is impossible to pass, so what do you do? Answer: suck it up and go slowly. For as long as it takes.
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Regardless of road or vehicle type, the position from which to overtake should never be right on the rear or quarter of the vehicle ahead. Very many people, two or four wheels, think it is. You don't have any view of the road ahead; normal stopping-distance rules still apply.

I don't think I have ever seen anything so stupid as this biker's attempt. True, I have no head for heights, and wouldn't like to even be on that road, but I would not want to walk past that truck, with that much space between me and a looong fall to death . Even if it was stationary.

Horrifying video!
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Old 15th January 2022, 03:17   #621
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Answer: suck it up and go slowly.
While I agree with you....

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For as long as it takes.
I still don't like what you said

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To many, this is an unacceptable truth: There is a slow vehicle in front of you, and it is impossible to pass, so what do you do? Answer: suck it up and go slowly. For as long as it takes.
Admission! It is one thing to preach and another to practice.

And, on an narrow urban road, only two days ago, I ran out of patience with the guy in front at 15-20kph.
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As a guideline, how much distance would you recommend (even in a car) keeping in mind that you are also looking to overtake at some point of time and the road might be similar for next couple of hours driving?
The standard 2-second rule always applies, but here I'd add the length of those rods (looks like about 8-10 metres long) to the 2-second rule. I'd take a decision to overtake only when it is safe to do so, and not looking to overtake at the first opportunity through the least possible gap.
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One of them despite a forewarning by the other, purportedly tries to overtake a truck from the cliff side on that narrow stretch that's a wet dirt track and not exactly a road worth its name. In making this attempt the bike slips, bends with this biker to the right cliff side, towards the valley portion.
Wouldn't a 5-10 min break by those two bikers have been more prudent in such cases considering the overtaking was anyways tricky even after a while besides the risk of trailing that truck with rods sticking out. A break would've ensured the truck builds up a fair distance ahead and the danger of trailing it is averted too.
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