10year old Matiz saved 4 members and faded in the sunset

narayanang76 · 13th January 2011, 16:15

shishir: read your thread fully, now it is one year! It is a terrible accident!

On the truck driver in question - One of my colleague used to say jokingly while seeing some erratic drivers who drive carelessly - that they used to drive bullock carts few years before and now he got this vehicle which he is playing with!

Sorry about your car and glad that yoou and your family are safe and have moved on.

And I really want to coment on your courage to go and visit the place again and looking back 1 year ago (and sharing the pics). Plenty of us dont have the courage to do that (some of my friends dont have the it even when remind them about some incidents on vehicles breaking down - and need to be towed) - they say please dont remind on those unfortunate incidents. Kudos to you!

God Bless

Regards
narayanang76

shishir_bn · 13th January 2011, 17:24

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Originally Posted by rjstyles69

shishir why blame only the buses and trucks pal. Have driven this route umpteen times and its seldom that I have seen any car for that matter slow down here. Those humps arent good enough to deter any car driver to slow down.

The last time I drove that route was about a month back or so and was telling my friends that those speed breakers are in no ways helping reduce the speed of approaching vehicles. That said am glad you have moved on from the bad episode you all went through. Drive safe.

Thanks man.
You are absolutely right. Only thing the difference at that junction would have made was to put a BIG SINGLE hump instead of 10 small humps. If the hump is a regular big hump then everyone will slow down.

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Originally Posted by selfdrive

My 2 cents worth - Indian traffic is such that road dividers are absolutely essential. At least some head on accidents can be prevented, and one can focus on the traffic headed in the same direction. One of our family friends lost his life a couple of years ago, when a bus was trying to overtake a truck (both oncoming) and rammed into his Santro head on (Pune Solapur road). I dont understand what the great hurry is to overtake a vehicle and put other lives in danger. Isnt one delayed further if they drive rash?

This is what exactly happened at that junction to me. But it was a truck overtaking a bus at that cross.

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Originally Posted by narayanang76

shishir: read your thread fully, now it is one year! It is a terrible accident!

On the truck driver in question - One of my colleague used to say jokingly while seeing some erratic drivers who drive carelessly - that they used to drive bullock carts few years before and now he got this vehicle which he is playing with!

Sorry about your car and glad that yoou and your family are safe and have moved on.

And I really want to coment on your courage to go and visit the place again and looking back 1 year ago (and sharing the pics). Plenty of us dont have the courage to do that (some of my friends dont have the it even when remind them about some incidents on vehicles breaking down - and need to be towed) - they say please dont remind on those unfortunate incidents. Kudos to you!

God Bless

Regards
narayanang76

Thanks for the wishes man.
It is waste of time and energy talking of those drivers. I had to visit that place and see which was the junction and what is the specialty of that junction so that deadly accidents takes place once in 2 days and some one loses their life. I wanted to see the footpath which saved me.

Life moves on, but scars and thoughts remain whenever you are trying to drive and plan a long drive.

tanwaramit · 14th January 2011, 11:57

what a nasty T Point, making it easier for people to join the main road at good speed. Total design flaw in this.

Instead, there should be the following for the road with connects as T

1. Median, so that incoming and outgoing traffic is separate
2. Speedbreakers for this joining road, in fact quite big of them, so that people reduce speed before joining this road.

When are our highway engineers going to learn how to implement a T point !

shishir_bn · 14th January 2011, 13:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by tanwaramit

what a nasty T Point, making it easier for people to join the main road at good speed. Total design flaw in this.

Instead, there should be the following for the road with connects as T

1. Median, so that incoming and outgoing traffic is separate
2. Speedbreakers for this joining road, in fact quite big of them, so that people reduce speed before joining this road.

When are our highway engineers going to learn how to implement a T point !

@tanwar, you can't put a median also since the road width is small. If an SUV and a big vehicle pass each other then almost the ORVM touches the body of the other vehicle. But some idea should be implemented to make these type of junctions a safer one.

drrajasaravanan · 14th January 2011, 16:07

Hi
I am glad you and your family are safe. But writing them in every detail, with photographs and revisiting the place again and reconstructing the events, my god, you should be a tough nut to crack. Personally i had one bad spill 8 years back and could not drive a bike for couple of months and i was emotionally black mailed to drive a car for the next year or so before i could get my hands on a bike again. It had taken nearly 6 years before my better half relented for me to buy a REB.
I am sorry your matiz could not be restored but she has served her purpose well. Again having been involved in litigation i am not sure the driver or the owner of the lorry would be brought to justice. I am happy you have moved on and started looking for another car. All the best for that too. Dont let this incident take the fun out of your trips you might do in the future with your family.
Cheers buddy.

shishir_bn · 14th January 2011, 18:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by drrajasaravanan

Hi
I am glad you and your family are safe. But writing them in every detail, with photographs and revisiting the place again and reconstructing the events, my god, you should be a tough nut to crack. Personally i had one bad spill 8 years back and could not drive a bike for couple of months and i was emotionally black mailed to drive a car for the next year or so before i could get my hands on a bike again. It had taken nearly 6 years before my better half relented for me to buy a REB.
I am sorry your matiz could not be restored but she has served her purpose well. Again having been involved in litigation i am not sure the driver or the owner of the lorry would be brought to justice. I am happy you have moved on and started looking for another car. All the best for that too. Dont let this incident take the fun out of your trips you might do in the future with your family.
Cheers buddy.

Thanks for everything. i have already bought a car and have done almost 8000kms of travel in 6 months. But the thought of that accident is still fresh and everyday it flashes my mind in the morning when I start my car. But enjoying the 2nd life.

shishir_bn · 7th March 2011, 14:32

This week we had the cross examination and argument from the opposition lawyer. He was representing the Insurance company(Reliance Insurance).

The whole scene was so different than what we see on TV and films. There we hear the whole description from the person standing in that place. But in reality nothing of that sort is done. They ask you questions and you need to just answer them in YES or NO

The scene was like this

Lawyer:I have gone through the case and the accident happened at Barandur cross(Bhadravathi bye-pass)
Me: yes

L:this happened at 11am on 25th Dec 2009
me:yes

L: This happened due to your negligence
me:No( after telling No i tried to explain what happened, but the laywer told just answer YES or NO)

L: You didn't had license
Me:I had it

L: the road was around 25ft width and 4 ft of footpath on both side
me:Yes

L:So you did the accident
me:No

L:there were humps on both side of the road
me:yes

L: so you came directly into the lorry
me:No

Now the Hon. Judge got angry and blasted the Opp. layer that, no need to ask the same question in different ways, if you have any other questions then ask, or else i will close the case. So the opp lawyer said ok and started next round

L:so the lorry and the car had insurance and all the documents when the accident happened
me:Yes

L:after the accident you all went in the ambulance to the govt hospital
me: yes

L:you were admitted in the clinic in Bangalore
me:yes

L: you have made up this medical bill to get money from the opposition
me:no

L:why all the bills are in serial no
me: I got the bills on the last date of discharge

L:You were getting XXXX salary when this accident happened
me:yes

L: now you are getting XXXX salary
me: yes

L:you were on bed rest for 4 months
me:Yes

L:so how did you get the increase in salary when you were not in office for 4 months
me: Due to previous performance before the accident

L: so you did this accident
me:No

L: you and the police have made a deal and to claim the compensation you guys have put a case on the opposition
me:No

The same things were asked for my family also. The Hon judge would say the whole question and then add my answer to it to the typist and the same was typed and recorded and was signed and sealed. They took our signature also.

So now everything is done and waiting for the judgment. The judge will o through all the things and then give the judgment in another 10-15 days.

So 2 cases I have put against the opposition. One for personal injuries and the other for my grateful and savior "Matiz"

Jeep · 7th March 2011, 14:57

Shishir, hope you win the case. Never knew that an insurer would harass you in court like this.

addyhemmige · 7th March 2011, 15:36

This is hilarious! What kind of stupid questions are those?? btw, what has salary got to do with the accident?

Shishir, I'm sure you are going to win the case. I think this is just a formality and you had to go through it.

shishir_bn · 7th March 2011, 15:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeep

Shishir, hope you win the case. Never knew that an insurer would harass you in court like this.

Ya dude. Even I am hoping the same.

Quote:

Originally Posted by addyhemmige

This is hilarious! What kind of stupid questions are those?? btw, what has salary got to do with the accident?

Shishir, I'm sure you are going to win the case. I think this is just a formality and you had to go through it.

Man if the Hon Judge wouldn't have stopped then he would have asked many more of these types. Even I think this is a formality but until the final judgment comes we are not sure.

ahmad.007 · 13th July 2013, 12:53

Seems like the lorry hit you straight in the middle of the bonnet. That is scary, thank God everyone was safe.

saket77 · 13th July 2013, 14:07

That was a really scary incident man. And amazed that the tiny was was able to act a savior! And what kind of questions the lawyer asked? Feel like smashing his head. Absolute lack of some real substance. My best wishes for the judgment (you ought to win it with opposition lawyers like those

)

Good luck to you & your family.

Regards,
Saket

mpksuhas · 14th July 2013, 11:40

Shishir bn, can you please let know what was the final judgement

shishir_bn · 15th July 2013, 16:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by ahmad.007

Seems like the lorry hit you straight in the middle of the bonnet. That is scary, thank God everyone was safe.

Yep. He came directly in a straight line

Quote:

Originally Posted by saket77

That was a really scary incident man. And amazed that the tiny was was able to act a savior! And what kind of questions the lawyer asked? Feel like smashing his head. Absolute lack of some real substance. My best wishes for the judgment (you ought to win it with opposition lawyers like those

)

Good luck to you & your family.

Regards,
Saket

Can't escape those guys anywhere. You have to live with that. The atmosphere inside is such that you will not be able to speak if you want to.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mpksuhas

Shishir bn, can you please let know what was the final judgement

We won the judgement. The physical injury part we won around 2011 March and the car case we won around Dec 2011.

Rugged · 25th September 2015, 00:09

Was just browsing t-bhp and appreciating the 10 yr old Matiz.
Was shocked to scroll down.
OMG that was a horrible accident.
Almost 2 yrs for judjement ??..... Motor Vehicle Laws

@Shishir i am glad you and your family has come out safe.
Extremely happy that you won the case.
You resilience is an inspiration to all the accident victims.
Which car did you buy next ?
One request could you please post the current pics of the Angel- Matiz.
I guess your mechanic is still using the car.

13th January 2011, 16:15	#241
narayanang76 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: KA 53/KL 9 Posts: 451 Thanked: 836 Times View My Garage	Re: 10year old Matiz saved 4 members and faded in the sunset shishir: read your thread fully, now it is one year! It is a terrible accident! On the truck driver in question - One of my colleague used to say jokingly while seeing some erratic drivers who drive carelessly - that they used to drive bullock carts few years before and now he got this vehicle which he is playing with! Sorry about your car and glad that yoou and your family are safe and have moved on. And I really want to coment on your courage to go and visit the place again and looking back 1 year ago (and sharing the pics). Plenty of us dont have the courage to do that (some of my friends dont have the it even when remind them about some incidents on vehicles breaking down - and need to be towed) - they say please dont remind on those unfortunate incidents. Kudos to you! God Bless Regards narayanang76
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14th January 2011, 11:57	#243
tanwaramit Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Dilwalon ki Dilli Posts: 1,930 Thanked: 497 Times	Re: 10year old Matiz saved 4 members and faded in the sunset what a nasty T Point, making it easier for people to join the main road at good speed. Total design flaw in this. Instead, there should be the following for the road with connects as T 1. Median, so that incoming and outgoing traffic is separate 2. Speedbreakers for this joining road, in fact quite big of them, so that people reduce speed before joining this road. When are our highway engineers going to learn how to implement a T point !
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14th January 2011, 16:07	#245
drrajasaravanan BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Chennai Posts: 258 Thanked: 1,248 Times	Re: 10year old Matiz saved 4 members and faded in the sunset Hi I am glad you and your family are safe. But writing them in every detail, with photographs and revisiting the place again and reconstructing the events, my god, you should be a tough nut to crack. Personally i had one bad spill 8 years back and could not drive a bike for couple of months and i was emotionally black mailed to drive a car for the next year or so before i could get my hands on a bike again. It had taken nearly 6 years before my better half relented for me to buy a REB. I am sorry your matiz could not be restored but she has served her purpose well. Again having been involved in litigation i am not sure the driver or the owner of the lorry would be brought to justice. I am happy you have moved on and started looking for another car. All the best for that too. Dont let this incident take the fun out of your trips you might do in the future with your family. Cheers buddy. Last edited by drrajasaravanan : 14th January 2011 at 16:08.
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7th March 2011, 14:32	#247
shishir_bn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,195 Thanked: 120 Times	Re: 10year old Matiz saved 4 members and faded in the sunset This week we had the cross examination and argument from the opposition lawyer. He was representing the Insurance company(Reliance Insurance). The whole scene was so different than what we see on TV and films. There we hear the whole description from the person standing in that place. But in reality nothing of that sort is done. They ask you questions and you need to just answer them in YES or NO The scene was like this Lawyer:I have gone through the case and the accident happened at Barandur cross(Bhadravathi bye-pass) Me: yes L:this happened at 11am on 25th Dec 2009 me:yes L: This happened due to your negligence me:No( after telling No i tried to explain what happened, but the laywer told just answer YES or NO) L: You didn't had license Me:I had it L: the road was around 25ft width and 4 ft of footpath on both side me:Yes L:So you did the accident me:No L:there were humps on both side of the road me:yes L: so you came directly into the lorry me:No Now the Hon. Judge got angry and blasted the Opp. layer that, no need to ask the same question in different ways, if you have any other questions then ask, or else i will close the case. So the opp lawyer said ok and started next round L:so the lorry and the car had insurance and all the documents when the accident happened me:Yes L:after the accident you all went in the ambulance to the govt hospital me: yes L:you were admitted in the clinic in Bangalore me:yes L: you have made up this medical bill to get money from the opposition me:no L:why all the bills are in serial no me: I got the bills on the last date of discharge L:You were getting XXXX salary when this accident happened me:yes L: now you are getting XXXX salary me: yes L:you were on bed rest for 4 months me:Yes L:so how did you get the increase in salary when you were not in office for 4 months me: Due to previous performance before the accident L: so you did this accident me:No L: you and the police have made a deal and to claim the compensation you guys have put a case on the opposition me:No The same things were asked for my family also. The Hon judge would say the whole question and then add my answer to it to the typist and the same was typed and recorded and was signed and sealed. They took our signature also. So now everything is done and waiting for the judgment. The judge will o through all the things and then give the judgment in another 10-15 days. So 2 cases I have put against the opposition. One for personal injuries and the other for my grateful and savior "Matiz"
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7th March 2011, 14:57	#248
Jeep BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: London Posts: 438 Thanked: 67 Times	Re: 10year old Matiz saved 4 members and faded in the sunset Shishir, hope you win the case. Never knew that an insurer would harass you in court like this.
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7th March 2011, 15:36	#249
addyhemmige Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Bangalore/Hassan Posts: 1,527 Thanked: 487 Times View My Garage	Re: 10year old Matiz saved 4 members and faded in the sunset This is hilarious! What kind of stupid questions are those?? btw, what has salary got to do with the accident? Shishir, I'm sure you are going to win the case. I think this is just a formality and you had to go through it.
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13th July 2013, 12:53	#251
ahmad.007 BHPian Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Lucknow Posts: 232 Thanked: 86 Times View My Garage	Re: 10year old Matiz saved 4 members and faded in the sunset Seems like the lorry hit you straight in the middle of the bonnet. That is scary, thank God everyone was safe.
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13th July 2013, 14:07	#252
saket77 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Ranchi Posts: 4,396 Thanked: 12,026 Times	Re: 10year old Matiz saved 4 members and faded in the sunset That was a really scary incident man. And amazed that the tiny was was able to act a savior! And what kind of questions the lawyer asked? Feel like smashing his head. Absolute lack of some real substance. My best wishes for the judgment (you ought to win it with opposition lawyers like those) Good luck to you & your family. Regards, Saket
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mpksuhas Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: KA03/KL11 Posts: 3,936 Thanked: 7,339 Times View My Garage	Re: 10year old Matiz saved 4 members and faded in the sunset Shishir bn, can you please let know what was the final judgement
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25th September 2015, 00:09	#255
Rugged BHPian Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: CYBER-abad Posts: 66 Thanked: 62 Times	Re: 10year old Matiz saved 4 members and faded in the sunset Was just browsing t-bhp and appreciating the 10 yr old Matiz. Was shocked to scroll down. OMG that was a horrible accident. Almost 2 yrs for judjement ??..... Motor Vehicle Laws @Shishir i am glad you and your family has come out safe. Extremely happy that you won the case. You resilience is an inspiration to all the accident victims. Which car did you buy next ? One request could you please post the current pics of the Angel- Matiz. I guess your mechanic is still using the car.
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