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Old 15th March 2019, 06:29   #166
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Understood. Your issue is with DSG (for that matter, who doesn't have), but not with European petrols in general, right? Then why say stay away from European petrols? There are fantastic 1.8TSi manual Lauras which are a pleasure to drive.

Remember, in forums like this, your comments can greatly influence someone else's buying decision. IMHO, you need to be careful with your statements.
Absolutely! The 1.8 TSi is a hoot to drive! Yes I will edit the statement. I just wanted to highlight the fact that, for example, I was buying a Skoda Octavia, I would go for the diesel. Reason? A better long-term reliability. The Indians have not forgotten the gremlins of the 1.8 DSG and will not forget it very soon either. This has bought a general mindset onto the Indian buying public (pardon me) that the petrol is not very reliable, if not as much as the diesel. And the Skoda diesels have built up a good name from the days of the 1st generation Octavia TDi. I apologise if I have wrongly said something.
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Actually the 1.8 Tsi from VW group is highly unreliable. That is what I've read online too. The 2.0 liter is fine and most of the TDi engines and BMW Diesels too are very reliable.

People were saying there were too many issues with oil consumption, smoke from pistons, timing chain issues etc. with Petrol Engines.
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Remember, in forums like this, your comments can greatly influence someone else's buying decision. IMHO, you need to be careful with your statements.
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A lot of speculations on "unreliability" on a lot of automotive forums are actually spread through "word of mouth". I've come across posts countless times that starts with the phrase - "A friend/colleague/relative of mine said..."

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Actually the 1.8 Tsi from VW group is highly unreliable. That is what I've read online too.
Point in case!

Now, I'm not saying that they're wrong, They might've had issues. However in these cases you'd never be privy to the complete story - Was the car serviced on time? Were the replacement parts always OEM/good quality? Was the turbo idled properly? and a lot more. What you'll hear is - "I paid a lot for this car and it is having issues."
Please bear in mind that most Euro cars if maintained properly, runs like clockwork for thousand of miles.

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for example, I was buying a Skoda Octavia, I would go for the diesel. Reason? A better long-term reliability.
You'd miss out on the rear independent suspension setup then.

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People were saying there were too many issues with oil consumption, smoke from pistons, timing chain issues etc. with Petrol Engines.
Oil consumption - Yes, it's on the higher side. But VW doesn't classify it as an issue (as expected). Also this fact itself doesn't seem to be the root cause of any problems.

Timing chain issues - The issue was specific to the chain tensioner unit in the EA888 Gen2 series engines between 2009 and 2011. There were 3 part changes during the time, the final one being stable enough. You can go ahead and get it changed to be safe.

The other two "known" issues are - Water pump failure and A/C compressor failure.

PS - I've been driving a used Laura 1.8TSI for over a year/12K+ KMs now (MY2010) without major issues other than a water pump failure and charcoal canister choking. Hence I can verify the fact that you don't HAVE TO STAY AWAY from a "properly maintained euro car".
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Now, I'm not saying that they're wrong, They might've had issues. However in these cases you'd never be privy to the complete story - Was the car serviced on time? Were the replacement parts always OEM/good quality? Was the turbo idled properly? and a lot more. What you'll hear is - "I paid a lot for this car and it is having issues."
Please bear in mind that most Euro cars if maintained properly, runs like clockwork for thousand of miles.
This is the most crucial part which people need to overlook. Over the years having bought many a European cars myself and seen my family buy Jap cars, I've come to the conclusion that European cars need to be maintained properly and maintenance is typically not cheap. You do your regular service and don't cut corners, the car will last you a life time (almost). A well maintained 100K Km run European vs Japanese ( keeping Toyota aside. They also run for lifetime) will tell you the difference.

A VW or a Skoda can't be maintained at Maruti prices even if you take apple to apple. You cut corners on maintainence, you get short changed on the product.

My 2 paisa!

P.S: I own a MY2012 Laura TSI and previously had Octavia VRS MK1too and both were pre-owned. I can vouch myself that well maintained Skodas last a life time!
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