Re: Which Diesel car for ~10 Lakh? Vento vs Verna vs Rapid vs Fiesta vs Linea vs Othe @KINI:
Many congratulations on your choice and the why's of it. It is not just the electrical faults however, which has led not me to post the pic. I agree with you as there are various views and ways to look at any product and though i personally would not buy a product which is not known to be reliable (in my almost decade long experience of living and driving in Europe). However, hope this new polo platform on which vento is based will turn the tide. I do wish so sincerely. I do agree and have experienced their build quality, which is something to be appreciated and replicated across the industry.
@VB-SAN:
Firstly, i like your handle...san in Japanese is an honorific suffix for addressing or referring to people. Is it by any figment of my imagination related to that? This pic was attached to address KINI and hence i did not take into account other brands, as KINI was interested in the VW Vento and the Fiat Linea. The rest of the pic was giving more details than i could possibly post!
@hrman:
There is no duster specific campaign here. I still make my choices on how reliable a car is. I would not like my beloved family and friends to be stranded or worse have an issue with it, if I can help it. When Carlos Ghosn, the CEO of Nissan and Renault purchased DACIA a Romanian auto maker, it was with the intention of building robust, problem free cars. He had predicted that the markets will falter in Europe and the west and its people will start look to have no nonsense car as they will not be in a position to indulge in their automotive fantasies or at least some realistic dreams as there will be a shortage of resources for such activities. By God, how right was he? Europe and most western automotive markets have not yet recovered from the 2008/7 collapse, in spite of government initiatives to offer rebate for older cars in an exchange for new cars.
The instructions for DACIA managers was to find parts from the Renault-Nissan parts bin, of older models which have withstood the most abuse and yet had not failed functionally, structurally or aesthetically. The words used were something, which meant, “zero failure” (I was privy to some info). Thus, the new DACIA was born, with a premise of a new automotive era of problem free motoring and from all the parts, technologies, and applications, which had never failed in other older models in the alliance.
You can see the logans and the veritos running as taxi’s in India, taking all the abuse and yet giving fantastic mileage and no problems even after 400,000 kilometres (a little search on the web will give you all the information I have written), is old news anyway.
This Renault duster is in reality DACIA Duster and hence the recommendation. By the way the Logan and the soon to be launched Lodgy were run away hits in France, Germany, Italy and Spain, major automotive markets in Europe. What is interesting to note is that people in these countries generally purchased vehicles made by manufacturers in their country. French – Citroen, Peugeot, Renault; Germans – VW, Audi, MB, BMW, Opel; Italians – Fiat; Spanish – Seat, etc. You get what I wanted to convey. These markets are very tough to break for any new product, yet DACIA quickly became the top seller by volume in all these countries (all info available on the wonderful web).
In addition, Duster has a great GC, good mileage, more importantly I feel it is the best car to take on our so-called roads, which are by the way shaming moon and other planets for their crater size, design, appearance, and sheer number. The comfort of car from a couple of segments above, with the high seating posture, giving you a commanding view of the road are the hallmarks of Duster. Please do check out fifth gear’s video review of Duster. It is not easy for a budget brand DACIA and a budget car Duster to win their appreciation. (They are not as bad as Clarkson. However, we watch Clarkson for the entertainment and not base our automotive purchasing decisions on Top Gear!)
@ Sam Boy:
Dear Sam, each is entitled to their opinion.
It is wonderful to know that some people need not worry about 10 – 12 lakh rupees of investment, the time and energy to get that and the continued good, honest, hard work, required to keep up.
Moreover, it is not the money that is the sole criteria. Imagine, just imagine that someone’s daughter or wife or sister is making a long journey, and had to travel though some part of the night. This wonderful lovely car on which not much paralysis had been done, gives way. She is not in position to reach anyone and then what? I am just explaining a hypothetical scenario. This might occur even at better times, but many might not know the turmoil that goes with problems. And we need to remember “Peter Principle” problems come in huge numbers not in single digits. If one belong’s to that group, good for them and I do pray that, it remains the same for them and for all if possible. But such people should also know that knowledge comes from all directions and it is free (monetarily only, as I have my deepest regards for all the people in this forum who devote their time, effort and wisdom not just knowledge to better the lives of people they might never meet or get to see) especially on T-BHP!
Moreover, it is also heartening to know that some people need not think, plan, and care for others. Nevertheless, being human is not difficult. In addition, being with a G and living with a wife is different (especially if you respect, adore, and cherish her). If one plans to changes wheels as they change their tissues then this piece of conversation is not for them.
The saddest part of my country is that people do not like be informed or educated, they prefer to be entertained.
From where I come from, we are taught to respect and treat others wealth and materials as we would treat ours, treat their problems as ours and work towards solving it. There is also one other saying where I come from, that even man’s best friend/pet can bark for itself, it takes only a human to stand for another and be counted to give him/her/them his best and all. In addition, we were asked and taught - For what did God give our faculties? - To do some good, which really benefits the other soul, while one still can. By the way, there is a jokes section in the forum!
I get it. It takes a lot to make any mental effort and it is not always possible by all, at most of the times. It takes a lot to comment and have your opinions scrutinized by many.
Good luck to all who are paralysed by analysis, as they need it.
You rightly used the word native and village together! |