Skoda Octavia or Honda Civic

prkothan · 12th April 2006, 11:25

Hi all,

My inlaws finally decided to book the Skoda Rider 1.9 Tdi today evening. Actually they were not fully satisfied with Skoda and they require a valid reason for not buying skoda Rider. Is it worth waiting for Honda Civic?

Whats their requirement?

1. Luxury (Not bothered whether it is Deisel or Petrol. If its a deisel car, it will be considered as Bonus).
2. Chauffer driven.
3. Budget 12 lacs
4. Good After Sale Service
5. Decent mileage (hence NO to Honda Accord).

The main reason for shying away from Skoda vehicles is, because of its huge maintenance cost and its poor resale value.

Your suggestion pls.

adya33 · 12th April 2006, 11:32

Skoda Octivia is not the best car to be driven in.

If your in-laws can wait then whats the harm in waiting? They will get more cars to choose from.
If they can not wait for some reason then take a look at Corolla too.
Since they are not bothered about Petrol or Diesel car.

goldie_malhotra · 12th April 2006, 11:49

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Originally Posted by adya33

If they can not wait for some reason then take a look at Corolla too.
Since they are not bothered about Petrol or Diesel car.

The rear seat comfort in a Corolla is one of the best. And it gives the best FE in its class.

sumitsingh · 12th April 2006, 12:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by prkothan

The main reason for shying away from Skoda vehicles is, because of its huge maintenance cost and its poor resale value.

Your suggestion pls.

Did you say Poor resale value for Skoda? try checking out the prices of a used Skoda and I think Skoda retain most of their value in the resale market partly because there are not many that are available in the market and secondly because people consider them a good deal even in the used car market.

With Regards to the Civic, it was mentioned in the CNBC Autocar show that the Rear seating of the Civic is a bit low because of the low roofline and hence might not be the best seat for being driven in. Have a look at the Corolla as rear seat comfort and fuel economy are top notch..

-Sumit.

karthik247 · 12th April 2006, 12:49

Honda Accord will be a good 5lacs more than ur current budget. If u can stretch it that much, then also check out the new Camry

How about the Optra, its a pretty comfy car with TNRS and the nice leather seats.

GTO · 12th April 2006, 12:50

The question to the title of this thread cannot be answered as no one has really driven the Civic. But with the launch just around the corner, it may well be worth the wait. Reports are that the launch is in May, with deliveries starting in June.

The Octavia petrols have a bad resale value. Not the diesels which have an astoundingly good performance in the used market.

GTO

shan_jp · 12th April 2006, 14:45

You have only Corolla, Skoda Octavia Rider RS and TDi and Elantra.. Civic - a new car.. an entry level car in the US market, more similar bodyline to that of City..

If you are deciding on the TDi.. its a good decision according to me..Have taken long trips in 1.9 TDi.. a good car to drive and be driven around. To test and book a civic you may need to wait for 2+ months..

jesal · 12th April 2006, 14:49

resale of octis is down for sure in 2006. 2002 ambi models are available in mumbai from as low as 4.99 laks. thats way too less for a 4 yr old car bought for 12 laks +

amarkulkarni · 12th April 2006, 15:17

Hi,
I would suggest u go for Octavia. u know though it is a new car in local market it has a high Brand value in international mkt. Also utlity wise it is more safe and comfortable. Think ove it. Also if u can extend ur budget go for Octavia Combi L & K. Its cool SUV spacious and very comfortable to handle.

Fiero · 12th April 2006, 19:29

no official prices , no TDs = no comparison (as of now)

navin · 12th April 2006, 19:54

Octavia = poor rear seat
Corolla = poor ride quality

why not try the Optra Elite with all the gizmos. it will fit the bill and is often iven with a 4/40 waranty. but it does have poor resale value. Still if they are going to keep the car 5+ years that should not matter.

prkothan · 13th April 2006, 08:45

Yesterday evening we went to Millinieum motors,Saidapet. Every one of us fall in love with Laura, but its totally out of budget. Finally decided Rider Classic 1.9 TDi. Classic comes with alloy wheels, auto climate control, Black color etc etc.

As expected rear seat comfort is not so great. But Laura rear seat is too good. Octavia's rear seat comfort is as good as Aveo/City, not to the level of Corolla.

Regarding discounts,the dealer is not ready any form of discount. They will give only floor mats and few basic stuffs which will cost few thousand at the most.

Guys please help me in negotiating. Whats the best deal we can extract. We (inlaws) decided to book on April-14 (tamil auspicious day).

devarshi84 · 13th April 2006, 09:01

how about the optra Lt automatic?

Nothing beats the comfort and ride quality of this car in c+ segment.

mileage is not good compared to honda's and mitsubishi's but optra is quite frugal on its own.

my recommendation goes for a optra auto

octavia is not bad though and even cedia is worth the price with the best NVH and good comfort. But optra scores over both.

If the choice is between Octavia or civic I will plainly stick to Skoda.

prkothan · 13th April 2006, 10:03

GM status is really sick now. It may file bankrupt near future and only GOD can save it. My uncle being a financial conultant will not put his money on a dying company.

Lancer doesn't has the charm compared to what it had in 2000. Actually they want to buy new Camry, but out of budget. Anyway they will hold this car at the most for 4 years and then they want to buy their dream machine - Mercedes Benz E220.

himanshugoswami · 13th April 2006, 10:16

for rear seat comfort and a plush ride- go for the elantra GLS

else, you can alsolook at a used Merc E220- but maintenance will be very expensive.

another interesting alternative, but a bit off the field is the tp range Innova- u cant go wrong with this car, esp the Petrol version. worth a consideration.

12th April 2006, 11:25	#1
prkothan BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: chennai Posts: 180 Thanked: 39 Times	Skoda Octavia or Honda Civic Hi all, My inlaws finally decided to book the Skoda Rider 1.9 Tdi today evening. Actually they were not fully satisfied with Skoda and they require a valid reason for not buying skoda Rider. Is it worth waiting for Honda Civic? Whats their requirement? 1. Luxury (Not bothered whether it is Deisel or Petrol. If its a deisel car, it will be considered as Bonus). 2. Chauffer driven. 3. Budget 12 lacs 4. Good After Sale Service 5. Decent mileage (hence NO to Honda Accord). The main reason for shying away from Skoda vehicles is, because of its huge maintenance cost and its poor resale value. Your suggestion pls.
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12th April 2006, 11:32	#2
adya33 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pune Posts: 1,839 Thanked: 183 Times	Skoda Octivia is not the best car to be driven in. If your in-laws can wait then whats the harm in waiting? They will get more cars to choose from. If they can not wait for some reason then take a look at Corolla too. Since they are not bothered about Petrol or Diesel car.
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12th April 2006, 12:49	#5
karthik247 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR, HYD Posts: 2,710 Thanked: 30 Times	Honda Accord will be a good 5lacs more than ur current budget. If u can stretch it that much, then also check out the new Camry How about the Optra, its a pretty comfy car with TNRS and the nice leather seats.
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12th April 2006, 12:50	#6
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 70,526 Thanked: 300,716 Times View My Garage	The question to the title of this thread cannot be answered as no one has really driven the Civic. But with the launch just around the corner, it may well be worth the wait. Reports are that the launch is in May, with deliveries starting in June. The Octavia petrols have a bad resale value. Not the diesels which have an astoundingly good performance in the used market. GTO
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12th April 2006, 14:45	#7
shan_jp BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 32 Thanked: 0 Times	You have only Corolla, Skoda Octavia Rider RS and TDi and Elantra.. Civic - a new car.. an entry level car in the US market, more similar bodyline to that of City.. If you are deciding on the TDi.. its a good decision according to me..Have taken long trips in 1.9 TDi.. a good car to drive and be driven around. To test and book a civic you may need to wait for 2+ months..
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12th April 2006, 14:49	#8
jesal BANNED Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 2,323 Thanked: 13 Times View My Garage	resale of octis is down for sure in 2006. 2002 ambi models are available in mumbai from as low as 4.99 laks. thats way too less for a 4 yr old car bought for 12 laks +
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12th April 2006, 15:17	#9
amarkulkarni Newbie Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 2 Thanked: 0 Times	Hi, I would suggest u go for Octavia. u know though it is a new car in local market it has a high Brand value in international mkt. Also utlity wise it is more safe and comfortable. Think ove it. Also if u can extend ur budget go for Octavia Combi L & K. Its cool SUV spacious and very comfortable to handle.
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12th April 2006, 19:29	#10
Fiero BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 352 Thanked: 146 Times	no official prices , no TDs = no comparison (as of now)
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12th April 2006, 19:54	#11
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,196 Thanked: 9,300 Times	Octavia = poor rear seat Corolla = poor ride quality why not try the Optra Elite with all the gizmos. it will fit the bill and is often iven with a 4/40 waranty. but it does have poor resale value. Still if they are going to keep the car 5+ years that should not matter.
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13th April 2006, 08:45	#12
prkothan BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: chennai Posts: 180 Thanked: 39 Times	Yesterday evening we went to Millinieum motors,Saidapet. Every one of us fall in love with Laura, but its totally out of budget. Finally decided Rider Classic 1.9 TDi. Classic comes with alloy wheels, auto climate control, Black color etc etc. As expected rear seat comfort is not so great. But Laura rear seat is too good. Octavia's rear seat comfort is as good as Aveo/City, not to the level of Corolla. Regarding discounts,the dealer is not ready any form of discount. They will give only floor mats and few basic stuffs which will cost few thousand at the most. Guys please help me in negotiating. Whats the best deal we can extract. We (inlaws) decided to book on April-14 (tamil auspicious day). Last edited by prkothan : 13th April 2006 at 08:55.
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13th April 2006, 09:01	#13
devarshi84 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ahmedabad - Tor Posts: 4,024 Thanked: 211 Times View My Garage	how about the optra Lt automatic? Nothing beats the comfort and ride quality of this car in c+ segment. mileage is not good compared to honda's and mitsubishi's but optra is quite frugal on its own. my recommendation goes for a optra auto octavia is not bad though and even cedia is worth the price with the best NVH and good comfort. But optra scores over both. If the choice is between Octavia or civic I will plainly stick to Skoda. Last edited by devarshi84 : 13th April 2006 at 09:03.
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13th April 2006, 10:03	#14
prkothan BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: chennai Posts: 180 Thanked: 39 Times	GM status is really sick now. It may file bankrupt near future and only GOD can save it. My uncle being a financial conultant will not put his money on a dying company. Lancer doesn't has the charm compared to what it had in 2000. Actually they want to buy new Camry, but out of budget. Anyway they will hold this car at the most for 4 years and then they want to buy their dream machine - Mercedes Benz E220.
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13th April 2006, 10:16	#15
himanshugoswami Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: !!!! Posts: 2,303 Thanked: 2,619 Times	for rear seat comfort and a plush ride- go for the elantra GLS else, you can alsolook at a used Merc E220- but maintenance will be very expensive. another interesting alternative, but a bit off the field is the tp range Innova- u cant go wrong with this car, esp the Petrol version. worth a consideration.
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