Petra?

lamborghini · 17th May 2006, 19:02

Devarshi,
do not own an Adventure.
Still a GTX.
I am guessing that unless the difference in weight is huge, there won't be a significant drop in FE and since the Adventure is based on the Palio, i don't expect it to be much more heavier.

Subodh Kumar · 1st July 2006, 15:30

Hi everybody
I have underghone through all these processes of late. Finally I have bought Petra ELX (Power window, central locking, alloy wheels, body coloured bumpers, elecrtically operated rear view mirror) on 16th June 2006 from Delhi under 5lakh. I am very happy; I have driven almost 1000 km and am very glad that I went for it. I am getting 11kml under Delhi driving condition which is decent. AC is really fantastic and pick up is great. I wonder why peoply go for other cars in this segment!

I feel that Petra is an excellant choice.

Minardi · 1st July 2006, 16:10

dear subodh, that is an excellent choice you have made. congratulation!

pls write a review and take some snaps and put them up in the appropriate sections.

M

premchetan · 1st July 2006, 18:02

Dear Subodh,
Thats a good deal you got for one of the best sedans in this segment. Congrats and many blissfull drivings.How did you manage to get this below 5 lekh. I understand onroad prices are 5.70.
Chetan

jkdas · 1st July 2006, 20:48

Congrats Subodh ! a Petra ELX for 5lac OTR ! wow!

amit · 1st July 2006, 21:26

Subodh, Congrats on a excellent choice! How about a review with pics?

pingmepal · 3rd July 2006, 09:13

Subodh Kumar, Congratulations... that's a steal !!!!......do drive safely...

best wishes

himanshugoswami · 3rd July 2006, 13:21

hey adi....

My suggestion is that dont go in for these dealer FE tests. check for actual FE from owners. From what I have read here and from Palio user group members, teh FE of aan Adventure si realistically 9.5 to 10 with AC.

SO check with a few actual owners before u take a final call

supremeBaleno · 3rd July 2006, 15:16

@adi, there is no technique that beats a litre FE test. User feedback usually comes with lots of errors built-in. This is not intentional in most cases, but due to the practical problems involved in measuring FE in cars (with bikes, it is easy due to the presence of reserve). But in cars, the only foolproof method is hooking up a can filled with pre-determined quantity of fuel and seeing the distance travelled till the fuel is used up.

There are two issues here - the dealer tried to cheat, and then the problem with the FE being lower than what you would be comfortable with. Everyone agrees that the Adventure is a damn good looking car. But only looks don't make a car. 6.5kmpl is pathetic mileage. Don't make a decision that you will have cause to rue later - more so when you had prior info.

finneyp · 3rd July 2006, 15:25

Adi, This is junk. A friend of mine, who owns a Adventure, gets a mileage of 10 - 11 kmpl in City driving in Bangalore.
If you wanna speak to him, I can give you his Mob No.

kvish · 3rd July 2006, 17:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by adi

finneyp...I am saying what I experienced...I am not sure what is the real story myself...All I know my plan to book adventure on sunday itself, has been put on hold..whether for ever I dont know...

Does anyone, includeing you, has any experience of a fuel test, and it being so off mark from the real thing?

I think it might be worthwhile to take more opinions on this, by starting a new thread just on this topic

7kmpl is almost hard to achieve...of course, if you have blasted off at 4000 rpm and stayed there in 1st and 2nd gears, then one needs to be satisfied with 7. I am not commenting on the driving, I am trying to relate driving style to mileage....so 7 may be achievable too and so can 11... you can avg out for a 9...

If you have mileage as a primary reason for deciding a car, I would advice you to look for diesel alternatives (not petrol ones since they would be hovering around the same value), since you may not be able to enjoy the car even after you bought it ....
On the other hand if you willing to compromise for mileage for better ride, and solid feel, go for it... this holds for any of the three petra,palio and adventure....

himanshugoswami · 3rd July 2006, 17:24

@adi,

Dude the decision is finally yours whehter to buy adventure or not. But I can tell you one thing from personal experience. My cousing in Delhi owns a Palio S10 and really thrashes the car. I have driven that car over extended periods and in city, with some redlining, I got 8-8.5 with AC in Delhi (Measured on tankful to tank ful basis).

If u drive any car taht way , it will give abysimal FE figures.

a very realistic figure for the adventure is 9-10 with AC. Also check out top gear magazine. they have an adventure on long term test and report similar figures.

Ciao

paharino1 · 3rd July 2006, 21:50

I own a Siena & have been driving the 1.6 engine for the past 2 years..With my relaxed driving style - no redlining, no ego racing - i have never got below 10 - mostly above 11 - as the average in city driving - with 30% as bumper to bumper driving in heavy traffic.
Got 15+ in Hyd - Blr, Hyd - Vijaywada, Delhi - Ambala highway driving..

I guess more than anything else, FE has got to do with your driving style

kvish · 4th July 2006, 11:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by adi

(Before this one is taken care of), today I got a "suggestion" by some one withinin the FIAT co. itself regarding poor availability of adventure spares and a/s/s in general.

It was really upsetting coming this from a Fiat exec himself, specially when he said I would suggest you not to proceed with a FIAT at this moment...

Isnt that heartbreaking../..

I am not sure what he exactly means by "adventure" spares...in that case all fiat cars will have issues with spares... I would say nearly 80% or more of the adventure is palio based... and most of what is not common is the exteriors of the car.... and some changes to suspension...
If there is a big issue with Palio spares itself then Tata's would make sure that it is resolved over a period of time.... cos their reputation is at stake too....
Yes there are issues with a/s/s which are addressed at snail pace..and thats how auto industry functions... so what he says about a/s/s is not false which is why you are getting a new adventure for close to 6L. Moreover most of the cars in 6L are a generation old and due for replacement, so you would have the same concerns while buying other cars too...

RX135 · 4th July 2006, 14:30

Adi,

I strongly recommend that you stay away from Adventure (or other Fiat cars), since you are getting so many negatives vibes about the car and the company. You really should look at alternatives now.

17th May 2006, 19:02	#91
lamborghini Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 6,113 Thanked: 5,760 Times View My Garage	Devarshi, do not own an Adventure. Still a GTX. I am guessing that unless the difference in weight is huge, there won't be a significant drop in FE and since the Adventure is based on the Palio, i don't expect it to be much more heavier.
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1st July 2006, 15:30	#92
Subodh Kumar BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Noida Posts: 30 Thanked: 2 Times	Hi everybody I have underghone through all these processes of late. Finally I have bought Petra ELX (Power window, central locking, alloy wheels, body coloured bumpers, elecrtically operated rear view mirror) on 16th June 2006 from Delhi under 5lakh. I am very happy; I have driven almost 1000 km and am very glad that I went for it. I am getting 11kml under Delhi driving condition which is decent. AC is really fantastic and pick up is great. I wonder why peoply go for other cars in this segment! I feel that Petra is an excellant choice.
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1st July 2006, 16:10	#93
Minardi BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 413 Thanked: 15 Times	dear subodh, that is an excellent choice you have made. congratulation! pls write a review and take some snaps and put them up in the appropriate sections. M
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1st July 2006, 18:02	#94
premchetan BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: pune Posts: 38 Thanked: 0 Times	Dear Subodh, Thats a good deal you got for one of the best sedans in this segment. Congrats and many blissfull drivings.How did you manage to get this below 5 lekh. I understand onroad prices are 5.70. Chetan
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1st July 2006, 20:48	#95
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,492 Times View My Garage	Congrats Subodh ! a Petra ELX for 5lac OTR ! wow!
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1st July 2006, 21:26	#96
amit Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 3,717 Thanked: 449 Times	Subodh, Congrats on a excellent choice! How about a review with pics?
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3rd July 2006, 09:13	#97
pingmepal BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 48 Thanked: 0 Times View My Garage	Subodh Kumar, Congratulations... that's a steal !!!!......do drive safely... best wishes
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3rd July 2006, 13:21	#98
himanshugoswami Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: !!!! Posts: 2,303 Thanked: 2,619 Times	hey adi.... My suggestion is that dont go in for these dealer FE tests. check for actual FE from owners. From what I have read here and from Palio user group members, teh FE of aan Adventure si realistically 9.5 to 10 with AC. SO check with a few actual owners before u take a final call
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3rd July 2006, 15:16	#99
supremeBaleno Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chennai / Kochi Posts: 5,546 Thanked: 2,698 Times View My Garage	@adi, there is no technique that beats a litre FE test. User feedback usually comes with lots of errors built-in. This is not intentional in most cases, but due to the practical problems involved in measuring FE in cars (with bikes, it is easy due to the presence of reserve). But in cars, the only foolproof method is hooking up a can filled with pre-determined quantity of fuel and seeing the distance travelled till the fuel is used up. There are two issues here - the dealer tried to cheat, and then the problem with the FE being lower than what you would be comfortable with. Everyone agrees that the Adventure is a damn good looking car. But only looks don't make a car. 6.5kmpl is pathetic mileage. Don't make a decision that you will have cause to rue later - more so when you had prior info.
	() Thanks

3rd July 2006, 15:25	#100
finneyp Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,716 Thanked: 319 Times View My Garage	Adi, This is junk. A friend of mine, who owns a Adventure, gets a mileage of 10 - 11 kmpl in City driving in Bangalore. If you wanna speak to him, I can give you his Mob No.
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3rd July 2006, 17:24	#102
himanshugoswami Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: !!!! Posts: 2,303 Thanked: 2,619 Times	@adi, Dude the decision is finally yours whehter to buy adventure or not. But I can tell you one thing from personal experience. My cousing in Delhi owns a Palio S10 and really thrashes the car. I have driven that car over extended periods and in city, with some redlining, I got 8-8.5 with AC in Delhi (Measured on tankful to tank ful basis). If u drive any car taht way , it will give abysimal FE figures. a very realistic figure for the adventure is 9-10 with AC. Also check out top gear magazine. they have an adventure on long term test and report similar figures. Ciao
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3rd July 2006, 21:50	#103
paharino1 BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hyderabad, India Posts: 299 Thanked: 29 Times	I own a Siena & have been driving the 1.6 engine for the past 2 years..With my relaxed driving style - no redlining, no ego racing - i have never got below 10 - mostly above 11 - as the average in city driving - with 30% as bumper to bumper driving in heavy traffic. Got 15+ in Hyd - Blr, Hyd - Vijaywada, Delhi - Ambala highway driving.. I guess more than anything else, FE has got to do with your driving style
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4th July 2006, 14:30	#105
RX135 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: pune Posts: 2,106 Thanked: 75 Times	Adi, I strongly recommend that you stay away from Adventure (or other Fiat cars), since you are getting so many negatives vibes about the car and the company. You really should look at alternatives now.
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