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View Poll Results: Which C2 segment sedan would you choose?
Maruti Ciaz Facelift 54 13.92%
Honda City 95 24.48%
Hyundai Verna 124 31.96%
Toyota Yaris 27 6.96%
Skoda Rapid 38 9.79%
Volkswagen Vento 33 8.51%
Fiat Linea 17 4.38%
Other (please specify in your post) 0 0%
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Old 29th April 2020, 16:07   #106
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I agree with Prasanna here on the Ciaz - Before the lockdown, I used to switch among 2 Ciaz, 1 City and 1 Verna (all 2018) & 1 City 2013 - Ciaz is built for passenger comfort, its ride is plush and has just the right amount of dampening in the suspension. For a long distance cruise, Ciaz is more comfortable than a City petrol, the diesel engine is very relaxed at highway speeds.
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I would disagree here. In my experience of 1.14 lakh km in ciaz, I never found the ride to be jiggly at any speeds legal. The steering feedback at triple digit speeds around curves is pathetic in ciaz and the Germans are a different league, agreed. But ride is the ciaz's plus point. Space and ride quality are the only strong points taking into account the below average handling and mediocre engines. This, coming from someone who has done several 700km trips in the ciaz. I am guessing either the tyre/air pressure/suspension in the car you experienced must be off the right settings.
Totally agree there since there is a lot of time I have spent, as a driver and a co-passenger, and once even at the rear seat of a Ciaz.

The Ciaz may not offer the best ride quality but at whatsoever speeds, it is definitely comfortable including jumping over undulations (Uneven culverts) at higher speeds where it doesn't throw the passenger out of his seat. The suspension is compliant and isn't bouncy even under full load and that matters a lot over those long highway runs.

My samples come from a drive of 2600 Km and 700+ Km over two drives in the last year.

Except for the steering that hasn't got the best feedback that I had also mentioned as a post on the official review thread, the car is absolutely stable at higher speeds too.
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Saw on Autocar site that Honda is planning to continue selling the current City alongside the incoming one, AND slash prices. That should make things more interesting in this segment. I do hope they will not cheapen the interiors though.

https://www.autocarindia.com/car-new...neously-417161
<Honda is also likely to drop prices of the fourth-gen City by a significant amount.>
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Saw on Autocar site that Honda is planning to continue selling the current City alongside the incoming one, AND slash prices. That should make things more interesting in this segment. I do hope they will not cheapen the interiors though.
Slash price generally = slash equipment & feature list / quality. I don't see Honda doing an exception.

If they don't reduce equipment and / or quality - new City has very few reasons to sell higher.
If they leave the car unchanged - Honda will have a lot of recent customers who bought it at a premium, with really sour taste & hating Honda for a long time!

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With the massive reduction in Skoda Rapid Rider variant to 7.49L yet with good kit, will it change the poll results?
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With the massive reduction in Skoda Rapid Rider variant to 7.49L yet with good kit, will it change the poll results?
Once a potential customer steps inside this rider vehicle, it is going to take some effort to convince that person that this old vehicle is any better than the others. Remember the entry level sedan (Etios \ Verito) segment that is largely out of the private buyer`s mind. I feel this model is targeted at the Sub4M buyer than a Ciaz \ Verna \ City.
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With the massive reduction in Skoda Rapid Rider variant to 7.49L yet with good kit, will it change the poll results?
In my opinion, definitely! Rider is a fantastic option at the cost that's lesser than any C2 sedan now.

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Once a potential customer steps inside this rider vehicle, it is going to take some effort to convince that person that this old vehicle is any better than the others. Remember the entry level sedan (Etios \ Verito) segment that is largely out of the private buyer`s mind. I feel this model is targeted at the Sub4M buyer than a Ciaz \ Verna \ City.
Except for the lack of infotainment, I don't think the interior has any cheap feel. Infact the Rapid has very nicely put, quality interiors. Everything feels sturdy and the colour scheme is also fresh (better than its sibling vento). There is adequate space, the seats are very well engineered and it's a quite comfortable space to be in.

If I had to choose between a base model ciaz petrol / rapid rider today, I would definitely choose the Skoda . It's better built, drives better, handles sharper and ride quality is among the best (second only to Ciaz/City) and is one of the fastest among the segment.

Throw in a nice ICE, alloy wheels and projector headlamps, it is as good as any C2 sedan on sale today.
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Guys, need your advice for our second vehicle.
Requirements:
1. As cheap as possible (less than 9.99 ex-s preferred)
1.1. Sedan preferred for easy ingress/egress
3. Best-in-class back seat space & ride
4. To be exclusively chauffeur-driven
5. Monthly usage ~ 1200 km so borderline between petrol & diesel
6. To be retained for easy 5 years
7. Manual preferred but automatic would be an asset

Do I really have any other options than the Ciaz petrol manual?
Why not have a look at the recently launched Rapid In the rider variant, at 7.49L Ex Showroom, the deal really cant get sweeter than that, and once in a while when you want to get behind the wheel it will be a real treat.
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With the massive reduction in Skoda Rapid Rider variant to 7.49L yet with good kit, will it change the poll results?
Yes, if the poll was to have been launched now, Rapid would have received a lot more votes, courtesy the Rider. The car has been packaged and priced well minus some features. It can give some variants of competitors a good run for their money.
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I voted for Honda City.

I have owned Honda City 2010 MT, 2012 AT TC and 2016 CVT now. Every time, I have tried to replace it with something else, I failed. The only close competitor for me is Verna. However City scores over Verna in space, that sweet I-VTEC engine and fuel efficiency.
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I voted for Honda City.

I have owned Honda City 2010 MT, 2012 AT TC and 2016 CVT now. Every time, I have tried to replace it with something else, I failed. The only close competitor for me is Verna. However City scores over Verna in space, that sweet I-VTEC engine and fuel efficiency.
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