Car for my dad - primarily chauffered (5.5 lacs)

dcetech · 31st August 2007, 11:39

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Originally Posted by ac 427

i would say the ESTEEM.

it comes iwth a factory fit CNG KIT. That takes care of your fuel cost.

and secondly since you mentioned it will be primarily chaufered. So the back seat in the esteem is nice too.

so i think its the Old esteem.

even flair is available with company fitted CNG kit.

vikrantw1 · 31st August 2007, 12:06

Folks
Thanks so much for the overwhelming response! The perspectives have been fantastic. Pollwise the Indica is leading
Does Esteem come with factory fitted CNG option - hmm thats an interesting option to explore as well.
I have got my Dad over for the weekend so we can both go for the test drives - so tomorrow will start the test drive / test sitting at Tata, Maruti and Hyundai . Even GM and Ford are all close by so checking out the cars there will not be a problem either.
Will keep everyone updated - I am guessing we will be closing this out within the next week if not over the weekend

sivadas · 31st August 2007, 12:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by ac 427

i would say the ESTEEM.

So the back seat in the esteem is nice too.

so i think its the Old esteem.

I cannot agree to this at all. Esteem back seats can be a real punishment for old poeple. I was forced to sit in the Esteem back seat a number of times (thanks to my collegues, at least 4 of them were having esteem). It is not a good place to be for longer duration.
Sorry to all the esteem owners including my dear friends

lurker · 31st August 2007, 14:26

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Originally Posted by vikrantw1

Folks
Thanks so much for the overwhelming response! The perspectives have been fantastic. Pollwise the Indica is leading
Does Esteem come with factory fitted CNG option - hmm thats an interesting option to explore as well.
I have got my Dad over for the weekend so we can both go for the test drives - so tomorrow will start the test drive / test sitting at Tata, Maruti and Hyundai . Even GM and Ford are all close by so checking out the cars there will not be a problem either.
Will keep everyone updated - I am guessing we will be closing this out within the next week if not over the weekend

Vikrant, I would suggest Indigo XL Petrol 105 PS with my eyes closed.

Tremendous Leg room for rear seats (better than S-Class), REAR A/C VENTS, DVD on HEADREST.

Just Go Ahead And Pamper Your Dad.

benbsb29 · 31st August 2007, 14:28

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Originally Posted by lurker

Vikrant, I would suggest Indigo XL Petrol 105 PS with my eyes closed.

All this for 5.5 lakhs?! Show me where, and i shall trade in my car.

Strider · 1st September 2007, 16:19

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Originally Posted by benbsb29

All this for 5.5 lakhs?! Show me where, and i shall trade in my car.

Exactly! The XL's a good car but WAY above the budget in this case.

I voted for the Getz - thanks to its good space, also it offers better quality overall and service compared to an Indica.

However, I later read the 2500 km/month requirement and, as has been recommended, a diesel makes perfect sense. Hence I change my vote in favour of the Indica Turbo.

Other option 1: Logan 1.4 - Good build, good ride, loads of space, but old tech engine (75 bhp from a 1.4 is too less, engines are nowadays producing 100 bhp from 1400cc engines e.g. the 16v 1.4 used in the Grande Punto in Europe, and the 1.4 petrol in the Indigo XL). But mileage cannot compare to a diesel, especially in hatchback form.

Other Option 2: Indigo Turbo/DiCOR: Primary advantage is that of a boot, but in all other parameters it is beaten by the Indica Turbo itself. And yes, there is the stability as well.

Other option 3: Esteem - Too old now to be frank. Good car otherwise. Same mileage issue as in option 1.

Other Option 4: Ikon - Even if mileage isn't what it is perceived to be, it isn't a cheap car to maintain and own. On the whole, however, it is fantastic value for money given its price (OTR 5.3 lacs). Same mileage issue as in option 1.

There you go, good luck to you both.

~Strider

lurker · 1st September 2007, 19:47

Tata XL Classic (Petrol): Rs. 5,35,000*
Tata XL Classic (DICOR): Rs. 6,15,000*

* = Ex-Showroom prices

kjdesigns_2000 · 1st September 2007, 21:34

From the available options i would prefer to have Indica Turbo. The car has really improved now and is a good built. My family car is used very roughly and any car which stays in good condition for 6 months with them i find to be really good car, and the new indica has done that. so imo you can trust TATA on this.

Also i must tell you that its driven for 2500 - 3000 kms just like your car will do.

rajneeesh · 2nd September 2007, 13:50

Indica Turbo,
Has a good and reliable powerplant, sips diesel and has decent power with the Turbo.Moreover it is pretty spacious car with comfortable seating, commonds adecent resale value and it is pretty strongly built and safe on the highway. I looks much better than the Indigo and the marina and unless you need the boot it does not make sense to pay more for them.

v&v · 2nd September 2007, 17:41

hi,
it think you should test indigo xl for you dad. it ideal for chauffered and i suppose they have reduced the price to 5.36 lac.

More over if it is over your budget then you can try indogo ls (TCIC) or DICOR. it avaliable at 5.2 lac on road.

Running cost and cabin space are very good. Average too is decent. I too own a indigo TCIC recently bought. I am happy with it.

it is much better than buying Indica Turbo.

cheers

vikrantw1 · 3rd September 2007, 10:39

Hi Folks
Thanks everyone for the enthusiatic responses
Incidentally was a busy weekend for me and my Dad - since I took him test driving.
Of course we should have taken a driver along - but since we didnt my Dad and I did all the driving.

No prizes for guessing what he liked the most - the Swift! - because after having driven cars for 53 years - I guess its a tough habit to keep down - he was absolutely floored with the diesel response ( and he actually thought that it was a petrol - because it wasn't making noise - shades of the kelvinator ad - if anyone remembers that) - but if one has spent one's youth at a time - when diesel meant " clatter ! clatter ! my teeth they chatter" - I guess it is something else to view diesel tech at its latest best.

Rear seat cramped or not - it seems that might be his final choice - though I have asked him to TD the Getz ( funnily neither of the 2 dealers we visited had the Getz test car during the weekend ). The 1.1 gets only a nominal 3 K discount - if someone knows a good deal anywhere in Delhi - let me know.

He liked the space of the Getz, agreed that Indica was spacious - but found the tata dealership ( at Mathura Road) quite rude ( that place is chaotic I can tell you - truly a bad dealership experience)

We also test drove the U-Va ( since it was nearby) - personally I liked it - but the problem is that the U-Va is neither here nor there - like Irfan Pathan after Greg Chapell was done with him - ok ac, ok engine, ok , ok , ok- like the kind of nice girl you might marry on the rebound - ok so I will stop the analogies

The Logan - that was just for fun sake - man that car has a really long throw ( for the first gear) - and the problem is the driving position - I am a bulky guy - especially because there is no tilt steering
Will keep everybody posted

benbsb29 · 3rd September 2007, 10:45

So Round 1 goes the Swift D's way.
What are the next set of cars you would be looking at?

View Poll Results: Which is best from a Rear Seat, economy and maintenance perspective ?
Getz Prime 1.1	23	33.82%
Swift Lxi	12	17.65%
Wagon R Duo	9	13.24%
Indica Turbo	33	48.53%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 68. You may not vote on this poll

31st August 2007, 12:06	#32
vikrantw1 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 109 Thanked: 10 Times	Folks Thanks so much for the overwhelming response! The perspectives have been fantastic. Pollwise the Indica is leading Does Esteem come with factory fitted CNG option - hmm thats an interesting option to explore as well. I have got my Dad over for the weekend so we can both go for the test drives - so tomorrow will start the test drive / test sitting at Tata, Maruti and Hyundai . Even GM and Ford are all close by so checking out the cars there will not be a problem either. Will keep everyone updated - I am guessing we will be closing this out within the next week if not over the weekend
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1st September 2007, 19:47	#37
lurker Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tura Posts: 1,592 Thanked: 1,420 Times	Tata XL Classic (Petrol): Rs. 5,35,000* Tata XL Classic (DICOR): Rs. 6,15,000* * = Ex-Showroom prices
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1st September 2007, 21:34	#38
kjdesigns_2000 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 160 Thanked: 0 Times View My Garage	From the available options i would prefer to have Indica Turbo. The car has really improved now and is a good built. My family car is used very roughly and any car which stays in good condition for 6 months with them i find to be really good car, and the new indica has done that. so imo you can trust TATA on this. Also i must tell you that its driven for 2500 - 3000 kms just like your car will do.
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2nd September 2007, 13:50	#39
rajneeesh Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: noida Posts: 1,114 Thanked: 540 Times	Indica Turbo, Has a good and reliable powerplant, sips diesel and has decent power with the Turbo.Moreover it is pretty spacious car with comfortable seating, commonds adecent resale value and it is pretty strongly built and safe on the highway. I looks much better than the Indigo and the marina and unless you need the boot it does not make sense to pay more for them.
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2nd September 2007, 17:41	#40
v&v Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 1,545 Thanked: 1,205 Times View My Garage	hi, it think you should test indigo xl for you dad. it ideal for chauffered and i suppose they have reduced the price to 5.36 lac. More over if it is over your budget then you can try indogo ls (TCIC) or DICOR. it avaliable at 5.2 lac on road. Running cost and cabin space are very good. Average too is decent. I too own a indigo TCIC recently bought. I am happy with it. it is much better than buying Indica Turbo. cheers
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3rd September 2007, 10:39	#41
vikrantw1 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 109 Thanked: 10 Times	Hi Folks Thanks everyone for the enthusiatic responses Incidentally was a busy weekend for me and my Dad - since I took him test driving. Of course we should have taken a driver along - but since we didnt my Dad and I did all the driving. No prizes for guessing what he liked the most - the Swift! - because after having driven cars for 53 years - I guess its a tough habit to keep down - he was absolutely floored with the diesel response ( and he actually thought that it was a petrol - because it wasn't making noise - shades of the kelvinator ad - if anyone remembers that) - but if one has spent one's youth at a time - when diesel meant " clatter ! clatter ! my teeth they chatter" - I guess it is something else to view diesel tech at its latest best. Rear seat cramped or not - it seems that might be his final choice - though I have asked him to TD the Getz ( funnily neither of the 2 dealers we visited had the Getz test car during the weekend ). The 1.1 gets only a nominal 3 K discount - if someone knows a good deal anywhere in Delhi - let me know. He liked the space of the Getz, agreed that Indica was spacious - but found the tata dealership ( at Mathura Road) quite rude ( that place is chaotic I can tell you - truly a bad dealership experience) We also test drove the U-Va ( since it was nearby) - personally I liked it - but the problem is that the U-Va is neither here nor there - like Irfan Pathan after Greg Chapell was done with him - ok ac, ok engine, ok , ok , ok- like the kind of nice girl you might marry on the rebound - ok so I will stop the analogies The Logan - that was just for fun sake - man that car has a really long throw ( for the first gear) - and the problem is the driving position - I am a bulky guy - especially because there is no tilt steering Will keep everybody posted
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3rd September 2007, 10:45	#42
benbsb29 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Brisbane Posts: 9,963 Thanked: 13,141 Times View My Garage	So Round 1 goes the Swift D's way. What are the next set of cars you would be looking at?
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