Should I buy Verna(XXi) petrol with ABS.

VMG · 25th September 2007, 15:44

My friend has almost finilized Verna(xxi) petrol version with ABS. His budget is max. 8 Lacs OTR. Before he moves, would like to see feed back from the Verna petrol owners.
He does not like SX4 and Ford maintenance is costly.
Driving about 500KM per month(75% city and 25% highway);
Family of 4(2+2)
Wants to keep it for about 6 years.
Price is 7.7Lacs OTR in Chennai. I think it comes with addtional warranty also.(4 years).
His priorities are mentioned below are in the same order.
- Low maintenance cost
- Comfort & safty features.
- FE
- Resale value.

with the above points, Is Verna is best or any other suggestion pl.

Eddy · 25th September 2007, 15:56

- Low maintenance cost - NHC
- Comfort - NHC
- safty features - .Verna
- FE - NHC all the way
- Resale value. NHC

I think NHC matches most of your criteria except ABS. Verna and Fusion sell their diesels more that their petrols, so not many ownership reviews here.

VMG · 25th September 2007, 15:57

Is this car comes with ABS and EBD or only ABS. If only ABS then what is the minus point.

unknown · 25th September 2007, 15:58

Yep Nhc suit's you well but you've shell out more money to get safety features such as abs/airbags .

VMG · 25th September 2007, 16:01

But Verna engine(VVTI) is superior than NHC( not the Vtec) right? NHC has GC issue also I think.

reignofchaos · 25th September 2007, 16:08

I don't think the maintenance cost of a Hyundai will be more than a Honda. Correct me if I'm wrong. The maintenance cost of the Elantra as tadu once posted was ridiculously low. I dont think verna would be more than that as its a smaller car. Also verna petrol's engine is much more capable than the i-DSi honda.

pabheda · 25th September 2007, 18:06

i was too in same postion some time before but then i went for nhc as driving comfort and name of honda and good fe and resale value

lamborghini · 25th September 2007, 18:24

The Verna is a nice car and should fit all of your friends requirements. Just make sure that he doesn't like power as the Verna is unstable at high speeds.

aditya.86 · 25th September 2007, 18:26

performance wise the verna is much superior to the new honda city and whereas driving comfort is concerned the city beats them all...plus honda cars will have better service than the hyundais anyday...for a nice comfortable city car the city is the best no doubts...

csentil · 25th September 2007, 18:40

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Originally Posted by VMG

Is this car comes with ABS and EBD or only ABS. If only ABS then what is the minus point.

Why might that be? Not all cars in that segment come with EBD. Only the SX4 has it. ABS is better than no ABS at all? Wouldn't you agree?

gopinathann · 25th September 2007, 19:39

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Originally Posted by csentil

Why might that be? Not all cars in that segment come with EBD. Only the SX4 has it. ABS is better than no ABS at all? Wouldn't you agree?

I think nowadays ABS comes with EBD by default. I saw the price of Verna XXi_ABS - 7.2 Lakhs. Why Verna is 20k costlier than SX4 without having AIRBAGS. Is there any other features in that car ?

reignofchaos · 25th September 2007, 19:48

^^Fiesta 1.6 SXi has ABS+EBD as well.

csentil · 25th September 2007, 19:54

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Originally Posted by gopinathann

I think nowadays ABS comes with EBD by default. I saw the price of Verna XXi_ABS - 7.2 Lakhs. Why Verna is 20k costlier than SX4 without having AIRBAGS. Is there any other features in that car ?

Not very sure of that. If that is so it would have been specified in the tech specs. Just says ABS for the Verna. I don't think they would miss that out.

The SX4 has ABS with EBD and BA I think. The Elantra also has it.

VMG · 26th September 2007, 11:07

City Vtec plus comes only with ABS no EBD.

vnabhi · 26th September 2007, 11:33

I wonder why you say Ford maintenance is expensive---that was in the yester years. If you read ownership reports of petrol Fiestas and Ikons, this myth has been busted.
I own a Fiesta 1.6 sxi for the past 6 months, and so far I've not spent anything on it, except Rs 1670 for the 3rd service, where they change Engine Oil, etc. Another owner has given a long term ownership report of the 1.6 sxi--pl take the trouble of reading it.
I too was in a fix 6 months ago on which car to drive---I TD'd Fiesta, Verna and NHC Vtec. I found the Vtec over-priced and lacking in features like ABS and EBD. I also did not like its shape and heard about its low GC. I liked the Verna's ride, but did not like its front look--esp the grill. That apart, I read that it was unstable at high speeds, and had poor headlights--pl visit the Orkut community for the thread named 'Problems with your Verna'. It also has a small boot.
After driving the Fiesta, I took an immediate liking to it, especially the handling, power and ride quality. The stock 6-cd changer sounds fantastic---better than that which comes with the Vtec or Verna. Only flip side is that it does not play mp3.
So I suggest you TD Fiesta, Verna, NHC and even the Aveo to decide. BTW, Aveo is offering fantastic discounts these days.

25th September 2007, 15:44	#1
VMG BHPian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Chennai Posts: 344 Thanked: 34 Times	Should I buy Verna(XXi) petrol with ABS. My friend has almost finilized Verna(xxi) petrol version with ABS. His budget is max. 8 Lacs OTR. Before he moves, would like to see feed back from the Verna petrol owners. He does not like SX4 and Ford maintenance is costly. Driving about 500KM per month(75% city and 25% highway); Family of 4(2+2) Wants to keep it for about 6 years. Price is 7.7Lacs OTR in Chennai. I think it comes with addtional warranty also.(4 years). His priorities are mentioned below are in the same order. - Low maintenance cost - Comfort & safty features. - FE - Resale value. with the above points, Is Verna is best or any other suggestion pl.
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25th September 2007, 15:56	#2
Eddy Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 9,387 Thanked: 13,301 Times	- Low maintenance cost - NHC - Comfort - NHC - safty features - .Verna - FE - NHC all the way - Resale value. NHC I think NHC matches most of your criteria except ABS. Verna and Fusion sell their diesels more that their petrols, so not many ownership reviews here.
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25th September 2007, 15:57	#3
VMG BHPian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Chennai Posts: 344 Thanked: 34 Times	Is this car comes with ABS and EBD or only ABS. If only ABS then what is the minus point.
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25th September 2007, 15:58	#4
unknown BANNED Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Earth Posts: 439 Thanked: 23 Times	Yep Nhc suit's you well but you've shell out more money to get safety features such as abs/airbags .
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25th September 2007, 16:01	#5
VMG BHPian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Chennai Posts: 344 Thanked: 34 Times	But Verna engine(VVTI) is superior than NHC( not the Vtec) right? NHC has GC issue also I think.
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25th September 2007, 16:08	#6
reignofchaos Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,542 Thanked: 2,450 Times View My Garage	I don't think the maintenance cost of a Hyundai will be more than a Honda. Correct me if I'm wrong. The maintenance cost of the Elantra as tadu once posted was ridiculously low. I dont think verna would be more than that as its a smaller car. Also verna petrol's engine is much more capable than the i-DSi honda.
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25th September 2007, 18:06	#7
pabheda BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: mumbai Posts: 105 Thanked: 4 Times	i was too in same postion some time before but then i went for nhc as driving comfort and name of honda and good fe and resale value
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25th September 2007, 18:24	#8
lamborghini Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 6,113 Thanked: 5,760 Times View My Garage	The Verna is a nice car and should fit all of your friends requirements. Just make sure that he doesn't like power as the Verna is unstable at high speeds.
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25th September 2007, 18:26	#9
aditya.86 BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Porbandar Posts: 305 Thanked: 92 Times	performance wise the verna is much superior to the new honda city and whereas driving comfort is concerned the city beats them all...plus honda cars will have better service than the hyundais anyday...for a nice comfortable city car the city is the best no doubts...
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25th September 2007, 19:48	#12
reignofchaos Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,542 Thanked: 2,450 Times View My Garage	^^Fiesta 1.6 SXi has ABS+EBD as well.
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26th September 2007, 11:07	#14
VMG BHPian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Chennai Posts: 344 Thanked: 34 Times	City Vtec plus comes only with ABS no EBD.
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26th September 2007, 11:33	#15
vnabhi Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: DC -> DC Posts: 5,958 Thanked: 2,393 Times View My Garage	I wonder why you say Ford maintenance is expensive---that was in the yester years. If you read ownership reports of petrol Fiestas and Ikons, this myth has been busted. I own a Fiesta 1.6 sxi for the past 6 months, and so far I've not spent anything on it, except Rs 1670 for the 3rd service, where they change Engine Oil, etc. Another owner has given a long term ownership report of the 1.6 sxi--pl take the trouble of reading it. I too was in a fix 6 months ago on which car to drive---I TD'd Fiesta, Verna and NHC Vtec. I found the Vtec over-priced and lacking in features like ABS and EBD. I also did not like its shape and heard about its low GC. I liked the Verna's ride, but did not like its front look--esp the grill. That apart, I read that it was unstable at high speeds, and had poor headlights--pl visit the Orkut community for the thread named 'Problems with your Verna'. It also has a small boot. After driving the Fiesta, I took an immediate liking to it, especially the handling, power and ride quality. The stock 6-cd changer sounds fantastic---better than that which comes with the Vtec or Verna. Only flip side is that it does not play mp3. So I suggest you TD Fiesta, Verna, NHC and even the Aveo to decide. BTW, Aveo is offering fantastic discounts these days.
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