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Originally Posted by hrman I knew the minute this thread started that its gonna be a NHC Vs SX4 fight all the way.. I have stated this in another thread as well, please dont bombard Honda or the NHC just because of its high price. The fact that it has been around for so many years, and is widely loved as a status symbol (Snob value if you wanna be blunt), speaks for itself. |
I have great respect for Honda for its racing roots and refinement in contemporary technologies. For instance, Civic (and Civic Si) is a looker none other car in that category can match! It is not about Honda vs. Suzuki or Maruti. It's about a product that is grossly under featured, and yet, a company of Honda's stature managed to get away with it!
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Originally Posted by hrman And oh yes, I do own an NHC, so will support it, irrespective of what any other manufacturer offers. I love the reactions I get from people when I tell them I own a Honda as against the fact that I own something else. |
I understand your sentiment and I am sorry if any of you get offended. I too use a company NHC Gxi temporary and loves it. But to say, having a NHC is a status symbol, is bit odd comparing to what it offers. Status symbol is owning an expensive and rare object,to show one's high social status. Yes right, NHC is a rare pearl that elevates to this club whereas Bentlies are so common cars in India that even my next door neighbour who runs a small cement store owns one. Even if the car does not have ABS/Airbags/Climatronics/Alloys/temperature gauge/state of the art security system etc., hey, bro, how does it matter, as long as you can feel INDUCTED to this exclusive club! If you got the picture, snob value is NOT status symbol. It is just a make belief imagination that hangs around upper middle class families that started up. Purely utopian school of thought and nothing else. And if you feel happy about it, sure, enjoy it. That only shows how irrational and ignorant most people are in India.
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Originally Posted by hrman And the competitor for the NHC is amongst all, a product from the stable of a Government owned company which continued with its bread and butter model (read 800) for close to 3 decades and still is not willing to phase it out for something new. Look at the esteem (erstwhile 1000) which was largely unchanged for over 1.5 decades? Im sure we can expect the same SX4 with a modified headlight 20 years from now, but the Honda city would have undergone 10 modifications by then. An earlier thread mentions that the NHC is gonna be phased out next year. What do we have? 4 modifications to the City in the past 10 years? Doesnt that say something about the progressive outlook of Honda? . |
So, basically you are trying to compare Honda Motors Corporation with Indian Maruti! Don't go rubbish by dragging legendary Honda's reputation and might with the filmsy car maker, Maruti. Comparision should be made on fair level grounds and equating Honda and Maruti, is like, hare and tortoise racing. Having said that, even after 4 revamps on NHC, the looks are still aweful to many and still to these days, the popular Exi/Gxi/CVT/VTEC does not even get safety features that it deserves. So, to sum up, in the past 4 revamps, the changes are only cosmetics (just as in maruti 800, Zen). And still, they couldn't get the car in shape and enticing enough! So, instead of a progression, it is regression! To add to this, even the design of new Accord is a way step backward and possibly a copycat of Hyundai. Only if you see Civic, would one appreciate its design. For that matter, GM, Ford and Suzuki can design car better than Honda. Newbie launches just as Fiesta, SX4, looks fabulous. Don't you agree? You'll say, NO, but who cares, most majority do and that is what it matters!
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Originally Posted by hrman And another thing, two different opinions can exist in this world. If this thread turns into a debate, then the initiator of this will not be able to get conclusive answers/ suggestions. Only many NHC -Haters/ SX4 supporters pouncing on a few NHC owners.
And a smiley after the post does not necessarily subdue the seriousness of the accusations/ sarcastic statements made in the post... |
Well, everyone, ain't this thread open for all members including NHC owners? And considering how much NHC are sold every month, there should be staggering number of users in teamBHP too. They are all too welcome to comment and present facts. If this thread find few takers for NHC (that is to be understood as most only own it for the "STATUS SYMBOL", and do not realize what bogie they are getting into) why blame NHC haters and SX4 supporters! Facts are sometime bitter to digest and if you perceive them as being sarcastic, then, it probably is because of your lack in the the level of knowledge and awareness about cars around your world. No one is making accusation here, no post or views are subdued. Instead of twirling facts, if you have better insights, then please draw conclusively, so that if I am missing something, I can get to know it! That is what this forum serves for, isn't?