Which one @12-13 lac EDIT : Bought Civic!!

benbsb29 · 3rd January 2008, 16:43

If i were in such a predicament, i would go for the Safari 2.2. It would serve as a good holidaying vehicle, and as for driving it to office, who cares?!

With the kind of roads which our vehicles need to trudge on these days, with the Safari you can make your own roads.

snaronikar · 3rd January 2008, 17:52

My choice would be Civic / Skoda that would suit your reqirement perfectly.

ayaskanti · 3rd January 2008, 17:57

Hi,

IMHO the Civic will be more sophisticated but the low GC would stay in back of your mind for the next 4 years. Assuming the roads are not going to improve dramatically - every time you go over a bump - you'll feel the pain in your heart.

Safari 2.2.VVT will be more basic (beast as they call it) but every time your engine oil or break oil leaks or you stretch for the first gear (you may go thru' the threads here of 2.2VVT - they are all there) you will sigh for a Civic.
Which pain can you live with between the two - go for that.

hondadude · 3rd January 2008, 18:08

MG1558,

If you are going to be in back seat most of the time, I am not sure if Civic is the right car for you even thought it looks great, has fantastic engine and great interiors. There was a thread where the owner mentioned that there is too much being made out of Civic scrapping its bottom on bad roads etc. I think you should test drive Civic on the bad roads that you are going to drive everyday (with you in back seat) to see how it feels.

Even though Corolla is long in the tooth, it has a very good back seat and great to be driven in. Test drive that as well (again with you in back seat) to compare with Civic.

Now regarding Safari, it has a great image (at least I think so) and that is the reason I am personally considering buying it. However, you must go through all the Safari ownership threads on t-bhp and understand that your ownership experience won't be as trouble free as that of Corolla and Civic. There would be occasional niggles and that can be very irritating. If you can live with those, my vote goes to Safari.

DirtyDan · 3rd January 2008, 20:38

I think your Safari instincts serve you well. It is a little big, it is not easy to navigate in tight places but on the highway and on bad roads you will be happy you have it. With Safari four wheel drive is an option you can afford. This will demonstrate your incredibility virility and sense of adventure to your co-workers. But be careful, this sort of purchase can lead to the wearing of jeans, hiking boots and then you will start taking jeep treks. Your co-workers will shy away from you and consider you a deviant.

navpreet318 · 3rd January 2008, 21:21

there will be niggles with the safari.

infact i take mine to the workshop nearly every month.but the true fact is that the sheer presence it commands makes up for everything.its like this.

"you're on a road traveling at approx 120 and suddenly a patch of broken road arrives.you don't have to hastily brake like other cars.you can just glide over it.no bumps felt.simple."

another thing

"you're on a road travelling at 120+ a car is in front.you honk.he sees a safari.he moves out of the way.period."

thats the presence this vehicle commands.i know its down right bullish but the fact is that each and every human wants to be bullish sometimes.if not all the time.

even if asked which car would i buy.in this price bracket it'll be the safari.there simply is nothing better than this in this segment.

but thats just my opnion.

ravibhat · 3rd January 2008, 21:47

I suggest Petrol Safari Exi or Petrol Innova V spec for you since both give you best comfort and best performance in that budget for Indian roads.

You will simply enjoy trust worthiness of Toyota ( vehicles have double life than TATA products ) and its ideal for family long trip. by the time you sell your car in 4 years trust me you get good resale value for Petrol Innova.

Safari is most comfortable vehicle for indian road and its great cruiser and has best back seat.

Both vehicles give at least 9kmpl as FE in mixed highway/hill driving.

Regards,

Ravi.

burnt. · 3rd January 2008, 21:50

Well for me, the most comfortable car among the lot is the corolla. Real easy to drive with comfort to add. The ground clearance should also be sufficient. Just give it a TD before you decide.

hell_raiser · 3rd January 2008, 23:51

how about the new Scopio, about to be launched. Nice features and really good to drive and the presence. Just a thought as the new hawk is looking like an attractive SUV. Its got cruise control, parking help, ABS and a practical hood scoop and power was never an issue in it.

BUSA · 4th January 2008, 00:53

The Magnum is quite FTD, infact the torque of that car is addictive, drive it and you will see why people love the Magnum so much.

I would too choose the Civic over the Safari, it looks the part and is a fantastic car, drives well and its a Honda!

tsk1979 · 4th January 2008, 01:12

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Originally Posted by hell_raiser

how about the new Scopio, about to be launched. Nice features and really good to drive and the presence. Just a thought as the new hawk is looking like an attractive SUV. Its got cruise control, parking help, ABS and a practical hood scoop and power was never an issue in it.

He mentioned chauffeur driven, scorpio back seat is not exactly a good place to be, esp on broken roads

raul · 4th January 2008, 03:16

I think Civic would be best for office use, its understated and refined. Remember 5 days a week you will be using this for office and maybe once in a quarter you will be heading to the hills where the Safari would be handy.

I suggest you get the Civic and when budget allows to add get a Vitara at 15 lakhs. That would be something your office mates will really get worked up about plus its good for daily trips and the occasional hilly outing or the other way round.

neoonwheels · 4th January 2008, 09:42

If maintenance is not a problem for you being company's issue, You can have a look at Laura... Fantastic looks (Subjective)...

aks_karthik · 4th January 2008, 10:12

Need a car for Status then go for Laura.If you don't have problem in FE and need to enjoy driving go for Civic.Wonderful car to drive with vast technology and you can definitely enjoy the new ride.

GTO · 4th January 2008, 10:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by MG1558

Hi GTO,

Thanks. What is your logic for chosing Civic with low GC over Safari2.2 with free maintenance?

Well, my comment on the free maintainence meant that, just because you dont have to worry about maintainence doesnt mean you go in for a car that will expectedly have niggling problems.

Low GC? Dont worry about it. Every car has its flaws, and this is really not that major of an issue. All it needs is a little more caution over bad roads. But what the Civic really offers is a fantastic overall package.

As mentioned before, do also test-drive the Optra (top variant) and the entry-level Laura. It may just fit in your budget.

3rd January 2008, 16:43	#16
benbsb29 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Brisbane Posts: 9,963 Thanked: 13,130 Times View My Garage	If i were in such a predicament, i would go for the Safari 2.2. It would serve as a good holidaying vehicle, and as for driving it to office, who cares?! With the kind of roads which our vehicles need to trudge on these days, with the Safari you can make your own roads.
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3rd January 2008, 17:52	#17
snaronikar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 2,845 Thanked: 29 Times View My Garage	My choice would be Civic / Skoda that would suit your reqirement perfectly.
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3rd January 2008, 17:57	#18
ayaskanti Newbie Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: bangalore Posts: 18 Thanked: 0 Times	Hi, IMHO the Civic will be more sophisticated but the low GC would stay in back of your mind for the next 4 years. Assuming the roads are not going to improve dramatically - every time you go over a bump - you'll feel the pain in your heart. Safari 2.2.VVT will be more basic (beast as they call it) but every time your engine oil or break oil leaks or you stretch for the first gear (you may go thru' the threads here of 2.2VVT - they are all there) you will sigh for a Civic. Which pain can you live with between the two - go for that.
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3rd January 2008, 18:08	#19
hondadude Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,044 Thanked: 69 Times	MG1558, If you are going to be in back seat most of the time, I am not sure if Civic is the right car for you even thought it looks great, has fantastic engine and great interiors. There was a thread where the owner mentioned that there is too much being made out of Civic scrapping its bottom on bad roads etc. I think you should test drive Civic on the bad roads that you are going to drive everyday (with you in back seat) to see how it feels. Even though Corolla is long in the tooth, it has a very good back seat and great to be driven in. Test drive that as well (again with you in back seat) to compare with Civic. Now regarding Safari, it has a great image (at least I think so) and that is the reason I am personally considering buying it. However, you must go through all the Safari ownership threads on t-bhp and understand that your ownership experience won't be as trouble free as that of Corolla and Civic. There would be occasional niggles and that can be very irritating. If you can live with those, my vote goes to Safari.
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3rd January 2008, 20:38	#20
DirtyDan Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Dharamsala, H.P Posts: 2,075 Thanked: 1,563 Times	Instincts are good I think your Safari instincts serve you well. It is a little big, it is not easy to navigate in tight places but on the highway and on bad roads you will be happy you have it. With Safari four wheel drive is an option you can afford. This will demonstrate your incredibility virility and sense of adventure to your co-workers. But be careful, this sort of purchase can lead to the wearing of jeans, hiking boots and then you will start taking jeep treks. Your co-workers will shy away from you and consider you a deviant.
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3rd January 2008, 21:21	#21
navpreet318 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Dehradun Posts: 2,263 Thanked: 2,982 Times	there will be niggles with the safari. infact i take mine to the workshop nearly every month.but the true fact is that the sheer presence it commands makes up for everything.its like this. "you're on a road traveling at approx 120 and suddenly a patch of broken road arrives.you don't have to hastily brake like other cars.you can just glide over it.no bumps felt.simple." another thing "you're on a road travelling at 120+ a car is in front.you honk.he sees a safari.he moves out of the way.period." thats the presence this vehicle commands.i know its down right bullish but the fact is that each and every human wants to be bullish sometimes.if not all the time. even if asked which car would i buy.in this price bracket it'll be the safari.there simply is nothing better than this in this segment. but thats just my opnion.
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3rd January 2008, 21:47	#22
ravibhat Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,256 Thanked: 37 Times View My Garage	I suggest Petrol Safari Exi or Petrol Innova V spec for you since both give you best comfort and best performance in that budget for Indian roads. You will simply enjoy trust worthiness of Toyota ( vehicles have double life than TATA products ) and its ideal for family long trip. by the time you sell your car in 4 years trust me you get good resale value for Petrol Innova. Safari is most comfortable vehicle for indian road and its great cruiser and has best back seat. Both vehicles give at least 9kmpl as FE in mixed highway/hill driving. Regards, Ravi.
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3rd January 2008, 21:50	#23
burnt. BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 251 Thanked: 26 Times	Well for me, the most comfortable car among the lot is the corolla. Real easy to drive with comfort to add. The ground clearance should also be sufficient. Just give it a TD before you decide.
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3rd January 2008, 23:51	#24
hell_raiser BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Pune Posts: 73 Thanked: 20 Times	how about the new Scopio, about to be launched. Nice features and really good to drive and the presence. Just a thought as the new hawk is looking like an attractive SUV. Its got cruise control, parking help, ABS and a practical hood scoop and power was never an issue in it.
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4th January 2008, 00:53	#25
BUSA Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,130 Thanked: 20 Times View My Garage	The Magnum is quite FTD, infact the torque of that car is addictive, drive it and you will see why people love the Magnum so much. I would too choose the Civic over the Safari, it looks the part and is a fantastic car, drives well and its a Honda!
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4th January 2008, 03:16	#27
raul BHPian Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pune Posts: 920 Thanked: 372 Times	I think Civic would be best for office use, its understated and refined. Remember 5 days a week you will be using this for office and maybe once in a quarter you will be heading to the hills where the Safari would be handy. I suggest you get the Civic and when budget allows to add get a Vitara at 15 lakhs. That would be something your office mates will really get worked up about plus its good for daily trips and the occasional hilly outing or the other way round.
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4th January 2008, 09:42	#28
neoonwheels Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Pune Posts: 2,064 Thanked: 1,875 Times View My Garage	If maintenance is not a problem for you being company's issue, You can have a look at Laura... Fantastic looks (Subjective)...
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4th January 2008, 10:12	#29
aks_karthik Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Chennai Posts: 1,947 Thanked: 341 Times View My Garage	Need a car for Status then go for Laura.If you don't have problem in FE and need to enjoy driving go for Civic.Wonderful car to drive with vast technology and you can definitely enjoy the new ride.
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