My Friend Needs Help - Budget 6 to 7 Lakhs

reachmash · 20th February 2008, 18:14

Hi,

My Friend is looking for a second New car, he has an old Esteem.

Requirements:

Budget: 6 Lakhs Max Streachable to 7 Lakhs
Fuel Type: Disel
FE: Good Mileage 15 KMPL in City and 15+ KMPL Highway
Planned Retention Period: Min 5 Years
Boot Space: Max is required, however 400+ LTR is fine
Number of People: 5 Max
Usage: 80% City - Bangalore, 20% Highway
Service Network: Should be Good in Karnataka
Maintenance Cost: Max 5K per annum
Features Required: A/C, PS, PW, Central Locking (no need of ABS and Air Bags)
Drive Distance: 30+ dialy and 50+ Weekend
Driver: Self Driven
Leg Room: Moderate, as he is around 5.8
GC Requirement: Modreate, as at times he vists to his native, which we fondly call as Tribal Area (Pretty Internal Village, so roads may not be good all the time throughout the year)

P:S: Intends to buy during March and/or April 08.

Please give comment and suggest / advice.

Best Regards

jkdas · 20th February 2008, 18:16

Diesel : 7lac mac OTR; 15kmpl avg; City use; Self driven; need boot;

Book the Dezire. Awesome engine for city as well as highway.

If you can get Indigo with the same engine then you can look at it too.

Technocrat · 20th February 2008, 18:41

I doubt if there are any options in 6-7 Lac bracket for a Diesel, Except for the expected Swift Sedan, the only Diesel that comes to my mind is the Ford 1.4 Dura-torque which is available in Fiesta & Fusion but I doubt if even that is available in your friend's budget

jaibir · 20th February 2008, 18:47

How about the Indigo/Indigo Marina with the DICOR engine? Also the Logan.

It would be better to wait for the Desire's launch before finalising anything though.

ravibhat · 20th February 2008, 20:54

Wait untill Dezire launch and pick up the Logan with hard bagraining! I suggest Logan Diesel because its truely practical sedan in its class. Indigo comes next and then Dezire If comes with score equal to at least Indigo and Dezire is supposed to be not as good as Logan in terms of practicality.

Regards,

Ravi.

rider60 · 21st February 2008, 04:11

well if you want that kind of mileage coupled with a reasonably big boot hmm,

i think the dezire can be ruled out now itself, even if it offers boot, i dont think you will like the base model, you see, the top model, swift is not released yet and the vdi abs costs around 6L on road! so expect the zdi to be around 6.35L and where will the dezire start?,
more over its obvious that they will not provide the base necessities like tacho, a cigg ligter, clock and the after market ones might trouble you big time finding one!. trust me i got a swift recently and had a hard time sourcing them! and also it just might inherit the swift genes the rattling part!

well since you will be doing 80% city driving, can you give a second thought to the boot? if you can then why not get the GETZ from hyundai that will satisfy most of the requirements except the boot part!, its got an awesome heart that i regret not buying, the 110 horses make me skip a beat!

other wise its the tata indigos for the price! and i personally dont recommend these for a period of 5 years!

the logan, has a very old and non mordern engine although is practical and good, but the future of 5 years is very uncertain at least for the diesel!

the fiesta might make a good car, but you will have to pump your budget higher for this car, but surely give a 15+kmpl mileage in city like Bangalore!, my cousin has one so i say this confidently!

well by the time you buy one i expect the fiat punto, stile diesel launch, the maruti splash ka launch and i still think there are 2-3new cars that will hit the market! in this price range, so better stay prepared for anything!

narayan · 21st February 2008, 10:31

why not INDIGO XL ? i saw one of these cars yesterday on the road and ITS SERIOUSLY LONG !!
rear passengers were like shouting loudly to the driver because he is so far away ( ok i made that up ! )

but its a cool car if ur not bothered about brands blah blah blah and just want WHAT YOU WANT...zimble..

vkochar · 21st February 2008, 10:43

I would recommend 2 -

Indigo XL
Logan Diesel

Both are reliable and VFM Cars giving you the diesel advantage and a Boot and Good Interior Space.

bblost · 21st February 2008, 10:54

Since I would love to read the test report of a Sumo Grande.

I suggest Sumo Grande.
It does satisfy most of the req.
Budget: meets
Fuel Type: meets
FE: will almost meet it
Planned Retention Period: Min 5 Years
Boot Space: There is no boot but lots of space
Number of People: 5 Max meets
Usage: 80% City - Bangalore, 20% Highway
Service Network: Should be Good in Karnataka
Maintenance Cost: Max 5K per annum
Features Required: A/C, PS, PW, Central Locking (no need of ABS and Air Bags)
Drive Distance: 30+ dialy and 50+ Weekend
Driver: Self Driven
Leg Room: Moderate, as he is around 5.8
GC Requirement: will be more than good

binoyb22 · 21st February 2008, 14:26

As Rider60 said,if u can give a second thought on BOOT SPACE,getz diesel will be the perfect car for you.almost all the other criteria matches

regards
binoy

amitoj · 21st February 2008, 14:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by binoyb22

As Rider60 said,if u can give a second thought on BOOT SPACE,getz diesel will be the perfect car for you.almost all the other criteria matches

Yeah but the only problem is that there is a 4 month waiting period for Getz diesel in Bangalore. Thats what my friend told me.

gemithomas · 21st February 2008, 16:05

These are the cars he needs to TD.

1.Indigo Marina DiCOR
2.Mahindra Bolero
3.Renault Logan

If he can do without a boot. HE could also look at the Getz Diesel.

rider60 · 21st February 2008, 17:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by amitoj

Yeah but the only problem is that there is a 4 month waiting period for Getz diesel in Bangalore. Thats what my friend told me.

there is no such thing for a getz at least as of now for the getz diesel here in hyderabad, i mean the last time i checked! and there are quiet a few getz diesels that are already running around here!

ezee · 21st February 2008, 22:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by reachmash

Hi,

Budget: 6 Lakhs Max Streachable to 7 Lakhs
Fuel Type: Disel
FE: Good Mileage 15 KMPL in City and 15+ KMPL Highway
Planned Retention Period: Min 5 Years
Boot Space: Max is required, however 400+ LTR is fine
Number of People: 5 Max
Usage: 80% City - Bangalore, 20% Highway
Service Network: Should be Good in Karnataka
Maintenance Cost: Max 5K per annum
Features Required: A/C, PS, PW, Central Locking (no need of ABS and Air Bags)
Drive Distance: 30+ dialy and 50+ Weekend
Driver: Self Driven
Leg Room: Moderate, as he is around 5.8
GC Requirement: Modreate, as at times he vists to his native, which we fondly call as Tribal Area (Pretty Internal Village, so roads may not be good all the time throughout the year)

Your all requirements are well covered by only and only Logan DLX, I would suggest to buy Logan DLX/DLS without thinking twice. Read more about my own Logan here:

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/long-t...-6500-kms.html

PS: Almost every people appriciate Logan once its appriciated by any member here, I dont know why!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by rider60

the logan, has a very old and non mordern engine although is practical and good, but the future of 5 years is very uncertain at least for the diesel!

BTW it has one of the most relaible engine available worldwide. Also Diesel engines are know for its long term reliability so you need not to worry for 5 years or more.

You will be driving ~40 kms per day makes you around only 75000 kms in 5 years.

With Logan you need not worry for anything before 250000 kms or even more.

rider60 · 22nd February 2008, 01:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by ezee

Your all requirements are well covered by only and only Logan DLX, I would suggest to buy Logan DLX/DLS without thinking twice. Read more about my own Logan here:

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/long-t...-6500-kms.html

PS: Almost every people appriciate Logan once its appriciated by any member here, I dont know why!!

BTW it has one of the most relaible engine available worldwide. Also Diesel engines are know for its long term reliability so you need not to worry for 5 years or more.

You will be driving ~40 kms per day makes you around only 75000 kms in 5 years.

With Logan you need not worry for anything before 250000 kms or even more.

the engine could be very very good but then will the parts be available?

even the Peugeot had very good engines but, since the car was discontinued and the manufacturer packed its business out of India the sourcing of parts have been a problem to many!.

the Renault has just ended their partnership with M&M and the future doesnot look very good either, any info on the service backup of logans?

and also, this was the reason i suggest the logan is not good for the next 5 years as sourcing the parts might be difficult dont you think?

20th February 2008, 18:14	#1
reachmash BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 98 Thanked: 0 Times	My Friend Needs Help - Budget 6 to 7 Lakhs Hi, My Friend is looking for a second New car, he has an old Esteem. Requirements: Budget: 6 Lakhs Max Streachable to 7 Lakhs Fuel Type: Disel FE: Good Mileage 15 KMPL in City and 15+ KMPL Highway Planned Retention Period: Min 5 Years Boot Space: Max is required, however 400+ LTR is fine Number of People: 5 Max Usage: 80% City - Bangalore, 20% Highway Service Network: Should be Good in Karnataka Maintenance Cost: Max 5K per annum Features Required: A/C, PS, PW, Central Locking (no need of ABS and Air Bags) Drive Distance: 30+ dialy and 50+ Weekend Driver: Self Driven Leg Room: Moderate, as he is around 5.8 GC Requirement: Modreate, as at times he vists to his native, which we fondly call as Tribal Area (Pretty Internal Village, so roads may not be good all the time throughout the year) P:S: Intends to buy during March and/or April 08. Please give comment and suggest / advice. Best Regards
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20th February 2008, 18:16	#2
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,492 Times View My Garage	Diesel : 7lac mac OTR; 15kmpl avg; City use; Self driven; need boot; Book the Dezire. Awesome engine for city as well as highway. If you can get Indigo with the same engine then you can look at it too.
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20th February 2008, 18:41	#3
Technocrat Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: GTA Posts: 14,813 Thanked: 2,700 Times	I doubt if there are any options in 6-7 Lac bracket for a Diesel, Except for the expected Swift Sedan, the only Diesel that comes to my mind is the Ford 1.4 Dura-torque which is available in Fiesta & Fusion but I doubt if even that is available in your friend's budget
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20th February 2008, 18:47	#4
jaibir BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 317 Thanked: 50 Times	How about the Indigo/Indigo Marina with the DICOR engine? Also the Logan. It would be better to wait for the Desire's launch before finalising anything though.
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20th February 2008, 20:54	#5
ravibhat Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,256 Thanked: 37 Times View My Garage	Wait untill Dezire launch and pick up the Logan with hard bagraining! I suggest Logan Diesel because its truely practical sedan in its class. Indigo comes next and then Dezire If comes with score equal to at least Indigo and Dezire is supposed to be not as good as Logan in terms of practicality. Regards, Ravi.
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21st February 2008, 04:11	#6
rider60 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bhagyanagaram. (A.K.A. Hyderabad) Posts: 1,620 Thanked: 56 Times View My Garage	well if you want that kind of mileage coupled with a reasonably big boot hmm, i think the dezire can be ruled out now itself, even if it offers boot, i dont think you will like the base model, you see, the top model, swift is not released yet and the vdi abs costs around 6L on road! so expect the zdi to be around 6.35L and where will the dezire start?, more over its obvious that they will not provide the base necessities like tacho, a cigg ligter, clock and the after market ones might trouble you big time finding one!. trust me i got a swift recently and had a hard time sourcing them! and also it just might inherit the swift genes the rattling part! well since you will be doing 80% city driving, can you give a second thought to the boot? if you can then why not get the GETZ from hyundai that will satisfy most of the requirements except the boot part!, its got an awesome heart that i regret not buying, the 110 horses make me skip a beat! other wise its the tata indigos for the price! and i personally dont recommend these for a period of 5 years! the logan, has a very old and non mordern engine although is practical and good, but the future of 5 years is very uncertain at least for the diesel! the fiesta might make a good car, but you will have to pump your budget higher for this car, but surely give a 15+kmpl mileage in city like Bangalore!, my cousin has one so i say this confidently! well by the time you buy one i expect the fiat punto, stile diesel launch, the maruti splash ka launch and i still think there are 2-3new cars that will hit the market! in this price range, so better stay prepared for anything!
	() Thanks

21st February 2008, 10:31	#7
narayan Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Singapore Posts: 3,114 Thanked: 2,372 Times View My Garage	why not INDIGO XL ? i saw one of these cars yesterday on the road and ITS SERIOUSLY LONG !! rear passengers were like shouting loudly to the driver because he is so far away ( ok i made that up ! ) but its a cool car if ur not bothered about brands blah blah blah and just want WHAT YOU WANT...zimble..
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21st February 2008, 10:43	#8
vkochar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Delhi / Agra / London Posts: 2,146 Thanked: 819 Times View My Garage	I would recommend 2 - Indigo XL Logan Diesel Both are reliable and VFM Cars giving you the diesel advantage and a Boot and Good Interior Space.
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21st February 2008, 10:54	#9
bblost Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 11,006 Thanked: 15,316 Times View My Garage	Since I would love to read the test report of a Sumo Grande. I suggest Sumo Grande. It does satisfy most of the req. Budget: meets Fuel Type: meets FE: will almost meet it Planned Retention Period: Min 5 Years Boot Space: There is no boot but lots of space Number of People: 5 Max meets Usage: 80% City - Bangalore, 20% Highway Service Network: Should be Good in Karnataka Maintenance Cost: Max 5K per annum Features Required: A/C, PS, PW, Central Locking (no need of ABS and Air Bags) Drive Distance: 30+ dialy and 50+ Weekend Driver: Self Driven Leg Room: Moderate, as he is around 5.8 GC Requirement: will be more than good
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21st February 2008, 14:26	#10
binoyb22 BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: cochin Posts: 168 Thanked: 2 Times	As Rider60 said,if u can give a second thought on BOOT SPACE,getz diesel will be the perfect car for you.almost all the other criteria matches regards binoy
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21st February 2008, 16:05	#12
gemithomas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 2,366 Thanked: 143 Times View My Garage	These are the cars he needs to TD. 1.Indigo Marina DiCOR 2.Mahindra Bolero 3.Renault Logan If he can do without a boot. HE could also look at the Getz Diesel.
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