Finalising Verna CRDi Base Variant w/o ABS - Your opinions ?

vkochar · 30th May 2008, 09:39

Hi Friends,

Finally sold my 5 year old Santro Xing at 57000 km's for 1.8 Lacs. Will give a detailed report in another thread later on.

I am left with a 3 year old Accent GLE in excellent condition which the women ( Mom, Wifey, Sis ) in the house will probably drive now.

I was initially taking an i10 for the ladies and finalised it ( at 4 Lacs OTR ). Then heard of Petrol prices shooting up and thought that I should have at least 1 diesel with me so have the best of both worlds. Started off with Swift Diesel but 5.63 Lacs OTR for a VDi was hard to digest for a car that rattled and without a boot ( No Offense Swift Owners

) My cars are driven hard and the Swift would have given away on the roads of Agra.

The only other Diesel if I extended my budget by 2 Lacs was the Verna. I have always been a Hyundai Lover owning 6 Hyundai's since its launch in India. So here we are - going for a Hyundai Again.

I am getting the Verna Base Diesel ( w/o ABS ) for the following Amount from Gurgaon -

Ex - 7,55,240
Ins - 22,000 ( APP )
RTO - 15,347

Discounts - 20k Dealer + 10k Loyalty

Total OTR after Discounts - 7,62,587 ( Give or take a few hundreds )

Freebies -

Carpet Matting & Mudflaps
Autocop / Cobra Remote Locking

What do you think of the deal ?? Is it a good one ?

Also any thing I should know about the Verna Diesel. I am buying a diesel for the first time and that is why the long desicion taking time.

Ishan has been really helpful in making my desicion

Including getting fatter rubber / Alloys the day I pick my car. I do not see that possible considering I would have Nil in my Bank Account after the purchase.

Please feel free to appreciate / critisize my desicion.

I need to pay 10k to the dealer today as prices are going up by 4% from 1st June so have to finalise today.

sbelekar · 30th May 2008, 10:10

If the prices are going up tomorrow, you tend to loose your ability negotiate any further. But I guess you can get them to throw in the sun-film as well. I have test-driven Verna diesel and I feel its a great choice, especially since you are also an Hyundai loyalist.
How much more would you have to pay for ABS option. Its a powerful vehicle, I'd prefer to have ABS on all my cars.

suren181 · 30th May 2008, 10:37

Why don't you go in for ABS Kochar? It's just about 24k costlier. It's a one time purchase and remember you get 4 disc brakes to boot with.

PatienceWins · 30th May 2008, 10:45

I agree that Verna base version is a better choice than Swift VDI considering the price difference.

I would recommend ABS+ all disc as it is required to tame the beast. It depends on whether you would be using the car extensively on highway and your driving style.

vkochar · 30th May 2008, 10:49

Well, It does make sense to take ABS but ABS Variant is ordered usually and takes around 3 weeks to come. Also Gurgaon dealer does not have a White Base Verna Diesel with ABS as of today. Prices go up by 30k almost after 1st June.

So I thought better to opt for a Verna without ABS.

I drive pretty decently, do not exceed speeds of 120. So I feel it's going to be Ok.

vnabhi · 30th May 2008, 10:51

I would suggest the ABS version too, for the safety if offers. Verna CRDI is a good choice.
If budget is the constraint, then why don't you consider the Getz CRDI (since you had Swift in mind earlier)? This too does not have ABS, but is as peppy as the Verna and a couple of lakhs cheaper. My neighbour bought one for 6.4 lacs last week in Hyderabad.

pingping · 30th May 2008, 10:53

No. You maynot be driving at higher speeds but strange situation might rarely force you. Verna at "higher" speeds doesnt brake well. It becomes difficult to bring to a clean neat stop at above 100kmph. Go for ABS.

PatienceWins · 30th May 2008, 11:13

Excellent choice of colour for Verna. It looks hot in white. Does the door handles and outer rear view mirrors come in white in the base version?

I think you can manage without ABS+all discs.

SumitB · 30th May 2008, 11:23

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Originally Posted by vkochar

Well, It does make sense to take ABS but ABS Variant is ordered usually and takes around 3 weeks to come. Also Gurgaon dealer does not have a White Base Verna Diesel with ABS as of today. Prices go up by 30k almost after 1st June.

So I thought better to opt for a Verna without ABS.

I drive pretty decently, do not exceed speeds of 120. So I feel it's going to be Ok.

VK, I do understand that you're in a hurry in order to beat the price rise but life does not give you two chances! I am sure that you will find some dealer who will have the ABS Verna in stock or in transit. Even if they don't I am sure they can get it for you. 120 is fast enough to warrant ABS. We also need to remember that its not necessary that an accident will always happen due to your fault. There are plenty of idiots and maniacs on Indian roads to warranty life saving technology in our cars!

I would suggest you to hold your horses and request you to go in for the ABS. Who knows, tomorrow you will regret not having it!

vkochar · 30th May 2008, 11:28

My friend is there right now checking the car out as I am in Agra. Will check on the ABS variant and see if they have one in stock.

sajands · 30th May 2008, 14:52

Hey VKochar,

I would request you to wait if possible[3 weeks] and get the Verna with ABS as i have the Verna with ABS and with the recent rains in bangalore, feeling very happy for opted for ABS.

Regards,
Sajan

iraghava · 30th May 2008, 15:06

Good decision Varun! See if you can get the ABS version otherwise take what you get. remember after the price hike a with ABS version is going to be more expensive by 54k!

phamilyman · 30th May 2008, 15:33

ABS it is yaar.

With great power, comes great responsiblity.

ethanhunt123 · 30th May 2008, 15:43

Even i would say go in with ABS. It can be a real life saver. Better to be safe than sorry for 24k.

SumitB · 30th May 2008, 16:33

Varun, you mentioned that you need to deposit some money with the dealer to beat the price rise. So wouldn't the same be applicable for the ABS version? Deposit the money, maybe raise the deposit amount and insist on the ABS at the old price! If the dealer can do it for the non-ABS version, then why won't he do it for the one with ABS?

30th May 2008, 09:39	#1
vkochar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Delhi / Agra / London Posts: 2,146 Thanked: 819 Times View My Garage	Finalising Verna CRDi Base Variant w/o ABS - Your opinions ? Hi Friends, Finally sold my 5 year old Santro Xing at 57000 km's for 1.8 Lacs. Will give a detailed report in another thread later on. I am left with a 3 year old Accent GLE in excellent condition which the women ( Mom, Wifey, Sis ) in the house will probably drive now. I was initially taking an i10 for the ladies and finalised it ( at 4 Lacs OTR ). Then heard of Petrol prices shooting up and thought that I should have at least 1 diesel with me so have the best of both worlds. Started off with Swift Diesel but 5.63 Lacs OTR for a VDi was hard to digest for a car that rattled and without a boot ( No Offense Swift Owners ) My cars are driven hard and the Swift would have given away on the roads of Agra. The only other Diesel if I extended my budget by 2 Lacs was the Verna. I have always been a Hyundai Lover owning 6 Hyundai's since its launch in India. So here we are - going for a Hyundai Again. I am getting the Verna Base Diesel ( w/o ABS ) for the following Amount from Gurgaon - Ex - 7,55,240 Ins - 22,000 ( APP ) RTO - 15,347 Discounts - 20k Dealer + 10k Loyalty Total OTR after Discounts - 7,62,587 ( Give or take a few hundreds ) Freebies - Carpet Matting & Mudflaps Autocop / Cobra Remote Locking What do you think of the deal ?? Is it a good one ? Also any thing I should know about the Verna Diesel. I am buying a diesel for the first time and that is why the long desicion taking time. Ishan has been really helpful in making my desicion Including getting fatter rubber / Alloys the day I pick my car. I do not see that possible considering I would have Nil in my Bank Account after the purchase. Please feel free to appreciate / critisize my desicion. I need to pay 10k to the dealer today as prices are going up by 4% from 1st June so have to finalise today.
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30th May 2008, 10:10	#2
sbelekar BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 57 Thanked: 0 Times View My Garage	If the prices are going up tomorrow, you tend to loose your ability negotiate any further. But I guess you can get them to throw in the sun-film as well. I have test-driven Verna diesel and I feel its a great choice, especially since you are also an Hyundai loyalist. How much more would you have to pay for ABS option. Its a powerful vehicle, I'd prefer to have ABS on all my cars.
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30th May 2008, 10:37	#3
suren181 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 850 Thanked: 11 Times View My Garage	Why don't you go in for ABS Kochar? It's just about 24k costlier. It's a one time purchase and remember you get 4 disc brakes to boot with.
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30th May 2008, 10:45	#4
PatienceWins Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,416 Thanked: 807 Times View My Garage	I agree that Verna base version is a better choice than Swift VDI considering the price difference. I would recommend ABS+ all disc as it is required to tame the beast. It depends on whether you would be using the car extensively on highway and your driving style.
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30th May 2008, 10:49	#5
vkochar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Delhi / Agra / London Posts: 2,146 Thanked: 819 Times View My Garage	Well, It does make sense to take ABS but ABS Variant is ordered usually and takes around 3 weeks to come. Also Gurgaon dealer does not have a White Base Verna Diesel with ABS as of today. Prices go up by 30k almost after 1st June. So I thought better to opt for a Verna without ABS. I drive pretty decently, do not exceed speeds of 120. So I feel it's going to be Ok.
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30th May 2008, 10:51	#6
vnabhi Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: DC -> DC Posts: 5,958 Thanked: 2,393 Times View My Garage	I would suggest the ABS version too, for the safety if offers. Verna CRDI is a good choice. If budget is the constraint, then why don't you consider the Getz CRDI (since you had Swift in mind earlier)? This too does not have ABS, but is as peppy as the Verna and a couple of lakhs cheaper. My neighbour bought one for 6.4 lacs last week in Hyderabad.
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30th May 2008, 10:53	#7
pingping BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Pondicherry, Chennai Posts: 77 Thanked: Once	No. You maynot be driving at higher speeds but strange situation might rarely force you. Verna at "higher" speeds doesnt brake well. It becomes difficult to bring to a clean neat stop at above 100kmph. Go for ABS. Last edited by pingping : 30th May 2008 at 11:02.
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30th May 2008, 11:13	#8
PatienceWins Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,416 Thanked: 807 Times View My Garage	Excellent choice of colour for Verna. It looks hot in white. Does the door handles and outer rear view mirrors come in white in the base version? I think you can manage without ABS+all discs.
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30th May 2008, 11:28	#10
vkochar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Delhi / Agra / London Posts: 2,146 Thanked: 819 Times View My Garage	My friend is there right now checking the car out as I am in Agra. Will check on the ABS variant and see if they have one in stock.
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30th May 2008, 14:52	#11
sajands BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 941 Thanked: 347 Times View My Garage	Hey VKochar, I would request you to wait if possible[3 weeks] and get the Verna with ABS as i have the Verna with ABS and with the recent rains in bangalore, feeling very happy for opted for ABS. Regards, Sajan
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30th May 2008, 15:06	#12
iraghava Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bhaiyyaland Posts: 8,033 Thanked: 265 Times View My Garage	Good decision Varun! See if you can get the ABS version otherwise take what you get. remember after the price hike a with ABS version is going to be more expensive by 54k!
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30th May 2008, 15:33	#13
phamilyman Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 5,968 Thanked: 4,642 Times	ABS it is yaar. With great power, comes great responsiblity.
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30th May 2008, 15:43	#14
ethanhunt123 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,384 Thanked: 1,033 Times View My Garage	Even i would say go in with ABS. It can be a real life saver. Better to be safe than sorry for 24k.
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30th May 2008, 16:33	#15
SumitB BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Shillong Posts: 986 Thanked: 263 Times	Varun, you mentioned that you need to deposit some money with the dealer to beat the price rise. So wouldn't the same be applicable for the ABS version? Deposit the money, maybe raise the deposit amount and insist on the ABS at the old price! If the dealer can do it for the non-ABS version, then why won't he do it for the one with ABS?
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