Need Advise: Confusion on Indigo models

D.V.R · 11th August 2008, 20:11

hrag you can change the OVRMs of the new indigo with the old one but changing the tail lamps is not a direct fit as the new ones are bit bigger in length.

greenhorn · 11th August 2008, 20:17

a bit ot, but you can fit the indigo dicor headlamps on the indica right ?
I'm planning to do so soon

hrag · 13th August 2008, 12:54

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Originally Posted by D.V.R

hrag you can change the OVRMs of the new indigo with the old one but changing the tail lamps is not a direct fit as the new ones are bit bigger in length.

Thanks D.V.R. That's a shame because the older tail lamps looked great.
I'm almost decided on the Indigo CS but if I do go in for the Indigo LX, I will keep your point in mind.

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you can fit the indigo dicor headlamps on the indica right?

I'm not very sure since the design "looks" different. I did fit the (oldest) Indigo non-motorized clear lens headlamps on my Indica at the 82K mark.

The_Warrior · 18th August 2008, 12:46

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Originally Posted by greenhorn

a bit ot, but you can fit the indigo dicor headlamps on the indica right ?
I'm planning to do so soon

Even i wanted to do that in my Indigo TDI, but they are not one to one replacement. The Bonnet needs to be modified so i decided againts it...

CtrlAltDel · 18th August 2008, 22:28

I have heard from many people (including some Tata mechanics) that Tata's TDi engine is much better than the Dicor. As far as i understand, Dicor is supposed to be the more modern and better engine (CRDI).

coming to Indigo CS, is it worth paying around 50K more for the Dicor LS, esp considering that the rest of the car is same as the TDi LS?

Can anyone here throw light on the major differences in parameters like cost of maintenence, FE, NVH, torque etc of the two engines?

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rider60 · 19th August 2008, 04:45

this is just my opinion its for you to take it or leave it,

the TDi engine is less complex, simpler and is just a turbo addition to the previous engine that has been around for so long, and tata has had time to rectify all the problems all these years on this engine and is way refined now.

the dicor is yet to go through all this and can turn out to be any way good or bad, so if you want utility and less hassles go the tdi or try the dicor.

hrag · 19th August 2008, 12:09

I don't know if this will answer your question but I am not considering the DICOR option for the Indigo / CS because:
1. there is no substantial difference in power and torque figures to warrant 50K extra
2. my trusted service advisors at Concorde Motors, ECR, Madras, tell me not to consider the 1.4 DICOR. If they give me a go-ahead, I would probably start looking for justifications for 50K extra.

viper_711 · 19th August 2008, 16:16

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Originally Posted by hrag

viper_711 & wanderernomad, you have made my decision simple. Thank you.
My only "situation" may be reversing with a foggy rear glass but I'll have to manage the way I do right now. Thanks again.

Glad to have been of any assistance. Go for the CS-TDI and put the 50K difference to use by opting for power windows, alloys and yes - good ICE!

hrag · 19th August 2008, 16:21

Sorry to disappoint you but my enthusiasm lies elsewhere. ICE will be transferred from my current Indica to the new car. Definitely no power windows as after market fitment. Alloys - yes, this is a good suggestion.

50K buys a lot of diesel.

trrk · 19th August 2008, 16:30

Hi Hrishi,

> not considering the DICOR option for the Indigo / CS because:
> 1. there is no substantial difference in power and torque figures to warrant
> 50K extra

The DICOR turbo boost is available from about 1400RPM itself and is much more driveable in town /city conditions. But the turbo kick of the TDi is absent in the DICOR. It is much more linear.

The XL that I drove certainly was noisier than my TDi at all speeds.

The TDi would be much more cost effective to maintain than the equivalent DICOR. The TDi definitley would be much more tolerant to the different grades of diesel dispensed by the various pumps.

DICOR is supposed to be one up on the TDi on the mileage front, but no personal experience. The XL was giving similar mileage as my TDi for my school runs, If I remember correctly.

JustStarted · 19th August 2008, 18:42

just noticed, LS TDI price is 5.21 Lakhs

.Dicor price has also increased.

or its just a typo ? carwale shows same.

hrag · 19th August 2008, 18:50

Looks like Tata Motors has hiked prices in the last week. When checked on August 11th, ex-showroom Bangalore for LS TDi was 4,41,630.00
Today it is 5,07,957.00

The Indigo LX costs 5,47,431 ex-showroom Bangalore now compared to 5,45,986 on August 11th.

Making hay while the sun shines?

Edit: at today's prices, the Indigo LX is suddenly making more sense to me. 40K extra for the bigger boot, rear defogger, power windows and central locking. The last 3 being factory fit.

hrag · 19th August 2008, 19:19

Mods - sorry missed the 20 minute mark

Indigo prices Bangalore

Indigo
GLS-BS III Rs. 4,71,728/-
GLX-BS III Rs. 5,01,707/-
LS-BS III Rs. 5,07,957/-
LS DICOR-BS III Rs. 5,35,202/-
LX-BS IIIRs. 5,47,431/-

Indigo CS
GLE BS III Rs.374,004.00

LE BS III Rs.413,584.00

LS BS III Rs.507,957.00

CS LS DiCOR BS III Rs.535,202.00
GLS BS III Rs.393,322.00

Why would anybody buy the CS when you get the Indigo diesels at the same price? I think there is a bug in their site (FIAT collaboration

).

JustStarted · 25th August 2008, 10:43

new site shows old prices again

Tata Motors | get-price

GTO · 25th August 2008, 17:29

Hi Peets, If you really don't need the boot, maybe you ought to try out the fabulous looking Indica Vista? Take her for a test and post your updates.

11th August 2008, 20:11	#16
D.V.R BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney / Secunderabad Posts: 278 Thanked: 14 Times	hrag you can change the OVRMs of the new indigo with the old one but changing the tail lamps is not a direct fit as the new ones are bit bigger in length.
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11th August 2008, 20:17	#17
greenhorn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,745 Thanked: 4,398 Times View My Garage	a bit ot, but you can fit the indigo dicor headlamps on the indica right ? I'm planning to do so soon
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18th August 2008, 22:28	#20
CtrlAltDel BHPian Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: HyderaGr8 Posts: 500 Thanked: 24 Times	Indigo CS - TDi vs DICOR I have heard from many people (including some Tata mechanics) that Tata's TDi engine is much better than the Dicor. As far as i understand, Dicor is supposed to be the more modern and better engine (CRDI). coming to Indigo CS, is it worth paying around 50K more for the Dicor LS, esp considering that the rest of the car is same as the TDi LS? Can anyone here throw light on the major differences in parameters like cost of maintenence, FE, NVH, torque etc of the two engines? Note from Team-BHP Support : Thread merged. Please use the search feature before creating a new thread on a topic that might already exist. Please continue your discussion in an existing thread. This will keep all the relevant information in one place and make it easier for readers in the future. Last edited by Jaggu : 18th August 2008 at 22:49. Reason: Search before new opening new thread
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19th August 2008, 04:45	#21
rider60 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bhagyanagaram. (A.K.A. Hyderabad) Posts: 1,620 Thanked: 56 Times View My Garage	this is just my opinion its for you to take it or leave it, the TDi engine is less complex, simpler and is just a turbo addition to the previous engine that has been around for so long, and tata has had time to rectify all the problems all these years on this engine and is way refined now. the dicor is yet to go through all this and can turn out to be any way good or bad, so if you want utility and less hassles go the tdi or try the dicor.
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19th August 2008, 12:09	#22
hrag BANNED Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bangalore / Madras Posts: 1,982 Thanked: 31 Times	I don't know if this will answer your question but I am not considering the DICOR option for the Indigo / CS because: 1. there is no substantial difference in power and torque figures to warrant 50K extra 2. my trusted service advisors at Concorde Motors, ECR, Madras, tell me not to consider the 1.4 DICOR. If they give me a go-ahead, I would probably start looking for justifications for 50K extra.
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19th August 2008, 16:21	#24
hrag BANNED Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bangalore / Madras Posts: 1,982 Thanked: 31 Times	Sorry to disappoint you but my enthusiasm lies elsewhere. ICE will be transferred from my current Indica to the new car. Definitely no power windows as after market fitment. Alloys - yes, this is a good suggestion. 50K buys a lot of diesel.
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19th August 2008, 16:30	#25
trrk Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Alleppey, Kerala Posts: 2,114 Thanked: 34 Times View My Garage	Hi Hrishi, > not considering the DICOR option for the Indigo / CS because: > 1. there is no substantial difference in power and torque figures to warrant > 50K extra The DICOR turbo boost is available from about 1400RPM itself and is much more driveable in town /city conditions. But the turbo kick of the TDi is absent in the DICOR. It is much more linear. The XL that I drove certainly was noisier than my TDi at all speeds. The TDi would be much more cost effective to maintain than the equivalent DICOR. The TDi definitley would be much more tolerant to the different grades of diesel dispensed by the various pumps. DICOR is supposed to be one up on the TDi on the mileage front, but no personal experience. The XL was giving similar mileage as my TDi for my school runs, If I remember correctly.
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19th August 2008, 18:42	#26
JustStarted BHPian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: jaipur Posts: 41 Thanked: 15 Times	just noticed, LS TDI price is 5.21 Lakhs .Dicor price has also increased. or its just a typo ? carwale shows same. Attached Thumbnails
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19th August 2008, 18:50	#27
hrag BANNED Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bangalore / Madras Posts: 1,982 Thanked: 31 Times	Looks like Tata Motors has hiked prices in the last week. When checked on August 11th, ex-showroom Bangalore for LS TDi was 4,41,630.00 Today it is 5,07,957.00 The Indigo LX costs 5,47,431 ex-showroom Bangalore now compared to 5,45,986 on August 11th. Making hay while the sun shines? Edit: at today's prices, the Indigo LX is suddenly making more sense to me. 40K extra for the bigger boot, rear defogger, power windows and central locking. The last 3 being factory fit. Last edited by hrag : 19th August 2008 at 18:58.
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19th August 2008, 19:19	#28
hrag BANNED Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bangalore / Madras Posts: 1,982 Thanked: 31 Times	Mods - sorry missed the 20 minute mark Indigo prices Bangalore Indigo GLS-BS III Rs. 4,71,728/- GLX-BS III Rs. 5,01,707/- LS-BS III Rs. 5,07,957/- LS DICOR-BS III Rs. 5,35,202/- LX-BS IIIRs. 5,47,431/- Indigo CS GLE BS III Rs.374,004.00 LE BS III Rs.413,584.00 LS BS III Rs.507,957.00 CS LS DiCOR BS III Rs.535,202.00 GLS BS III Rs.393,322.00 Why would anybody buy the CS when you get the Indigo diesels at the same price? I think there is a bug in their site (FIAT collaboration ). Last edited by hrag : 19th August 2008 at 19:21.
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25th August 2008, 10:43	#29
JustStarted BHPian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: jaipur Posts: 41 Thanked: 15 Times	new site shows old prices again Tata Motors \| get-price
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25th August 2008, 17:29	#30
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 70,518 Thanked: 300,704 Times View My Garage	Hi Peets, If you really don't need the boot, maybe you ought to try out the fabulous looking Indica Vista? Take her for a test and post your updates.
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