Need Advise: Confusion on Indigo models

Peets · 21st July 2008, 23:18

Hi Folks..
I currently have an Indica V2 DLS & am looking to upgrade to the New Indigo CS Diesel.. However i am a bit confused with regard to the models.. The options are between the TDS & the DICOR versions. Is there any potential advantage of the DICOR engine versus the Turbo engine in terms of Mileage, Performance or maintenance coss etc?? I look forward to hearing your opinions..

Cheers..
Peets.

greenhorn · 21st July 2008, 23:48

mileage - dicor wins( you get ~1kmpl more )
performance- again dicor wins ( power arrives faster , less turbo lag, so better driveablity)
maintenance- i think the dicor's might be on the higher side since it is more complex

more importantly, are you willing to shell out 50k more for the dicor CS when the dicor indica is just 30k more than the equivalent turbo?

GTO · 22nd July 2008, 13:27

I didn't bother waiting for DICOR reviews, and just picked up the regular TDi instead. Reason? Its far simpler, easy to work on and very reliable. If its utility that you are looking for, I'd say go for the TDi. It is old school but does the job equally well.

hrag · 11th August 2008, 12:54

Folks, upgrade time and confusion between the Indigo CS LS TDi and the Indigo LX TDi. I'm not considering the DICOR option.

As far as I could make out, the only real extras that the Indigo LX has are:
Power Windows
Central Locking
Rear Defogger

I couldn't care less about cosmetic stuff like beige interiors and chrome inserts on rub rails etc. However, factory fit is factory fit - the rear defogger is the only feature that really interests me. Power windows and central locking would be nice to have.

What do you recommend and why? I would have liked to go in for a car with more safety features but cannot afford it now.

esteem_lover · 11th August 2008, 13:50

Get the Marina, the best looker in the TATA stable.

viper_711 · 11th August 2008, 13:53

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Originally Posted by hrag

However, factory fit is factory fit - the rear defogger is the only feature that really interests me. Power windows and central locking would be nice to have.

The dealer can fix the power windows and central locking for you - a lot of customers go for this. There would be no warranty issues when you get it done from the dealer. The rear defogger is a bit difficult to retrofit as the back glass would have to be changed - involving the rubber seals to be removed - slightly messy IMO. I've driven a DLG Indica for 2 years and find that the defogger has been rarely used (A couple of ooty trips is when i recollect I needed to use it)
Hope this helps!

hrag · 11th August 2008, 13:57

esteem_lover, agreed the Marina is the best looker. Looks apart, I am looking for views on which car is a better buy, feature wise. Call it a price vs. feature choice at the cost of ~75 litres of boot space.

viper_711, with the Indigo CS I might retrofit central / remote locking but never power windows. Call it my aversion to modify a car. Defoggers are very useful in pouring rain on the highway.

Is the rear defogger (along with the central locking & power windows) and the ~75 litres of boot space worth the nearly 1 lakh extra?

viper_711 · 11th August 2008, 14:14

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Originally Posted by hrag

Defoggers are very useful in pouring rain on the highway.

Is the rear defogger (along with the central locking & power windows) and the ~75 litres of boot space worth the nearly 1 lakh extra?

If the HVAC is switched on, you don't need the defogger in pouring rain - the HVAC doesn't allow fogging on the inside and the question of fogging on the outside doesn't arise with the pouring rain.

About the extra 1 lakh - I don't think its worth the difference. My vote to the CS LS.

hrag · 11th August 2008, 14:25

OK then stupid question from me: why is the defogger present when HVAC is provided? I'm asking this from an Indica perspective - have had the rear screen badly fogged in rain and no, it wasn't the spray from the rear tyres. My LSi doesn't have HVAC only plain A/C.

From a purchase point of view, if you folks can convince me that the defogger is not required, my decision is made simple.

wanderernomad · 11th August 2008, 17:16

If you know how to use both the orvms effectively, there is no need for the defogger during driving. However in case you are reversing then a foggy backglass will obstruct vision. How many years did we continue to drive without a rear defogger? If your decison is dependent on this then you can live without one I am sure.

greenhorn · 11th August 2008, 17:43

the only time i needed a defogger was when i went overboard with the AC at night and the outside of the rear window fogged up.

bullboy · 11th August 2008, 18:35

will there be a face lifted indigo in the lines of new v3?

hrag · 11th August 2008, 18:50

viper_711 & wanderernomad, you have made my decision simple. Thank you.
My only "situation" may be reversing with a foggy rear glass but I'll have to manage the way I do right now. Thanks again.

greenhorn · 11th August 2008, 19:00

hraq, can you adjust with the small and weird looking indigo CS steering wheel ?

can the indica wheel be fitted instead ?

hrag · 11th August 2008, 19:23

I'm assuming the Indigo CS steering wheel (SW) is the same size as the Indigo SW, which is smaller than the Indica SW. The Safari and Indigo share the same SW size, if I'm not mistaken.

The Indica's SW is OK, only problem is that it feels big after you drive another car.

I like to keep things stock - the only modifications I might consider in the case of the Indigo LX (if I buy it) are changing the tail lamp assembly to the older Indigo assembly, which is better looking. Same with the ORVMs.

21st July 2008, 23:18	#1
Peets BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 26 Thanked: Once	Need Advise: Confusion on Indigo models Hi Folks.. I currently have an Indica V2 DLS & am looking to upgrade to the New Indigo CS Diesel.. However i am a bit confused with regard to the models.. The options are between the TDS & the DICOR versions. Is there any potential advantage of the DICOR engine versus the Turbo engine in terms of Mileage, Performance or maintenance coss etc?? I look forward to hearing your opinions.. Cheers.. Peets.
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21st July 2008, 23:48	#2
greenhorn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,745 Thanked: 4,399 Times View My Garage	mileage - dicor wins( you get ~1kmpl more ) performance- again dicor wins ( power arrives faster , less turbo lag, so better driveablity) maintenance- i think the dicor's might be on the higher side since it is more complex more importantly, are you willing to shell out 50k more for the dicor CS when the dicor indica is just 30k more than the equivalent turbo? Last edited by greenhorn : 21st July 2008 at 23:50.
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22nd July 2008, 13:27	#3
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 70,530 Thanked: 300,727 Times View My Garage	I didn't bother waiting for DICOR reviews, and just picked up the regular TDi instead. Reason? Its far simpler, easy to work on and very reliable. If its utility that you are looking for, I'd say go for the TDi. It is old school but does the job equally well.
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11th August 2008, 12:54	#4
hrag BANNED Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bangalore / Madras Posts: 1,982 Thanked: 31 Times	Folks, upgrade time and confusion between the Indigo CS LS TDi and the Indigo LX TDi. I'm not considering the DICOR option. As far as I could make out, the only real extras that the Indigo LX has are: Power Windows Central Locking Rear Defogger I couldn't care less about cosmetic stuff like beige interiors and chrome inserts on rub rails etc. However, factory fit is factory fit - the rear defogger is the only feature that really interests me. Power windows and central locking would be nice to have. What do you recommend and why? I would have liked to go in for a car with more safety features but cannot afford it now.
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11th August 2008, 13:50	#5
esteem_lover Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Madras/Py Posts: 7,556 Thanked: 502 Times View My Garage	Get the Marina, the best looker in the TATA stable.
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11th August 2008, 13:57	#7
hrag BANNED Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bangalore / Madras Posts: 1,982 Thanked: 31 Times	esteem_lover, agreed the Marina is the best looker. Looks apart, I am looking for views on which car is a better buy, feature wise. Call it a price vs. feature choice at the cost of ~75 litres of boot space. viper_711, with the Indigo CS I might retrofit central / remote locking but never power windows. Call it my aversion to modify a car. Defoggers are very useful in pouring rain on the highway. Is the rear defogger (along with the central locking & power windows) and the ~75 litres of boot space worth the nearly 1 lakh extra? Last edited by hrag : 11th August 2008 at 14:01.
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11th August 2008, 14:25	#9
hrag BANNED Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bangalore / Madras Posts: 1,982 Thanked: 31 Times	OK then stupid question from me: why is the defogger present when HVAC is provided? I'm asking this from an Indica perspective - have had the rear screen badly fogged in rain and no, it wasn't the spray from the rear tyres. My LSi doesn't have HVAC only plain A/C. From a purchase point of view, if you folks can convince me that the defogger is not required, my decision is made simple.
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11th August 2008, 17:16	#10
wanderernomad Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Chandigarh Posts: 2,534 Thanked: 1,276 Times View My Garage	If you know how to use both the orvms effectively, there is no need for the defogger during driving. However in case you are reversing then a foggy backglass will obstruct vision. How many years did we continue to drive without a rear defogger? If your decison is dependent on this then you can live without one I am sure.
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11th August 2008, 17:43	#11
greenhorn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,745 Thanked: 4,399 Times View My Garage	the only time i needed a defogger was when i went overboard with the AC at night and the outside of the rear window fogged up.
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11th August 2008, 18:35	#12
bullboy BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 608 Thanked: 89 Times	will there be a face lifted indigo in the lines of new v3?
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11th August 2008, 18:50	#13
hrag BANNED Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bangalore / Madras Posts: 1,982 Thanked: 31 Times	viper_711 & wanderernomad, you have made my decision simple. Thank you. My only "situation" may be reversing with a foggy rear glass but I'll have to manage the way I do right now. Thanks again.
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11th August 2008, 19:00	#14
greenhorn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,745 Thanked: 4,399 Times View My Garage	hraq, can you adjust with the small and weird looking indigo CS steering wheel ? can the indica wheel be fitted instead ?
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11th August 2008, 19:23	#15
hrag BANNED Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bangalore / Madras Posts: 1,982 Thanked: 31 Times	I'm assuming the Indigo CS steering wheel (SW) is the same size as the Indigo SW, which is smaller than the Indica SW. The Safari and Indigo share the same SW size, if I'm not mistaken. The Indica's SW is OK, only problem is that it feels big after you drive another car. I like to keep things stock - the only modifications I might consider in the case of the Indigo LX (if I buy it) are changing the tail lamp assembly to the older Indigo assembly, which is better looking. Same with the ORVMs.
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