Help : Viva crdi or Verna crdi

nitindangoria · 20th February 2009, 18:41

Fellow members :

I am on the lookout for a used diesel sedan and I have shortlisted Viva crdi and Verna crdi.

Both cars are around 2006 manufactured but the cost difference between them is around 2.5 L. Does Verna justify spending 2.5 L more?

Has Hyundai really improved upon the viva in terms of :

a. Better Suspension ? I believe Verna goes berserk at high speeds ( speeds which I will never touch ).

b. Improved engine performance/ NVH levels ?

c. Better seating comfort, especially for the rear seats ? Are the rear seats as low as in the accent?

Please let me have your views. Thanks.

jkdas · 20th February 2009, 18:45

Verna. Newer,better model.

And you can get extended warranty.

live2drive · 20th February 2009, 18:46

I would anyday go for Verna CRDi.
Yes the Verna does get unstable at high speeds.
Seating comfort is better in the Verna(not as low as the accent).
Also, have heard that the three pot engine in the Accent CRDi needs an overhaul at around 60-70K kms.
IMO go for the Verna and you'l not regret the 2.5L price difference.

P.S. What is the mileage on both the cars?

loving_alaap · 23rd February 2009, 00:02

Well i would take an expert mechanic & analyze about the condition of the car.

If the engine is good than its worth to save 2.5 Lacs definitely.

IMO Viva looks better than Verna.

aaggoswami · 23rd February 2009, 08:55

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Originally Posted by nitindangoria

I am on the lookout for a used diesel sedan and I have shortlisted Viva crdi and Verna crdi.

Both cars are around 2006 manufactured but the cost difference between them is around 2.5 L. Does Verna justify spending 2.5 L more?

Has Hyundai really improved upon the viva in terms of :

a. Better Suspension ? I believe Verna goes berserk at high speeds ( speeds which I will never touch ).

b. Improved engine performance/ NVH levels ?

c. Better seating comfort, especially for the rear seats ? Are the rear seats as low as in the accent?

1) How many kms both the cars you are considering have done ? What are you able to judge from the initial observations, I mean how the car has been used, etc. A lot of body dents will indicate rough usage.

2) a) As pointed out by someone, Verna is not stable at high speed which is not a good thing. But if you are not going to touch, high speeds dont worry about this.

b) Verna is better than Viva.

c) Verna is much better than Accent. The accent had very low rear seats and this was not comfortable for long distance driving.

Given the Verna's motor, I am sure you will start hitting high speeds.
But any given day, Verna would be my preference if I were in your place.

Also I suspect that Viva will have done more kms. as it dates back to 2006, so its better to go for Verna.

@jkdas : Agree with you, verna is the one to go for.

ShyamSCrdi · 23rd February 2009, 16:05

The verna for its engine. But the viva for its looks and its stability any day.
If i was to go in for either i would go in for the viva.

nitindangoria · 23rd February 2009, 16:35

Thanks to you all for your replies.

I have put in an indent for a Verna ABS. It might take some time because finding a used Verna ABS is a bit difficult.

vkochar · 3rd March 2009, 11:06

It is extremely difficult to find a used Verna CRDi. In fact I would be surprised if you can find a good condition used Viva CRDi also !

The Verna is a fantastic Diesel sedan and has amazing power and driveability is tops.

Not many people part with their Hyundai Diesels. Its with you for a long time.

But keep an eye out and I am sure you will find one soon. I feel a 2006 Model Verna ABS would be around 5.5 - 6 Lacs in Hyderabad. Am I right ?

ScorpMan · 3rd March 2009, 14:28

Nitin, if there is no budget constraint, than Verna is the one to go for. Its absolutely worth the difference over Accent. And, i dont think finding a used Verna CRDI in good condition is difficult, although ABS is extremely rare to find in Used market. BUt, do insist on Service Records .

nitindangoria · 6th March 2009, 15:40

@ vkochar and scorpman :

Sorry not to have replied to you both earlier.

I'm a bit surprised that an ABS verna crdi is selling for around 7 L plus and not for 5.5-6L as you have guessed.

As for the service records, I will surely insist on them but I doubt if they'd be in order. Not many owners bother to keep their service records. There is also the element of the true ownership of the car. I have been warned that there are lots of stolen cars being sold with fake papers.

Ramsagar · 6th March 2009, 16:47

You can go for Verna. Though it 2+, you will get a better resale value in long run with additional horses under the hood.
Depreciation will be more for Viva and I want to remind you that the on road price is 50-60k cheaper than standard accent.

If the viva sparingly used and in good condition, then it’s your call.

It would be clear if you give the specification (year of Mfd, kms on odo etc) of both the vehicles, then it easier to decide.

Remember we are spending 6L for hatch swift vdi-78 bhp, doesn’t matter to spend the same for verna-110 bhp+sedan (if your budget permits)
No offence meant.

chipfoose · 6th March 2009, 17:06

buddy go ahead with a verna ,viva is a discontinued model. make sure that the verna is in good condition, if its under extended warranty then thats the car for you. all the best.

brandon · 6th March 2009, 19:26

Both are good cars. Even the Viva CRDI. IMHO, I find the Verna more appealing

kailashnj · 10th March 2009, 22:06

Verna only, don't even think of Viva CRDI.

Verna is a beast in comparison to Viva crdi but a beast that has a sound heart too. Viva CRDi is known to have issues after 80kms and hence verna anyday.

Regards,
Kailash

hellstar · 10th March 2009, 22:46

verna CRDI all the way the power of extended warranty will hold you in good stead for sure.

And the extra horses will keep you ahead of the crowd

20th February 2009, 18:41	#1
nitindangoria BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 109 Thanked: 3 Times	Help : Viva crdi or Verna crdi Fellow members : I am on the lookout for a used diesel sedan and I have shortlisted Viva crdi and Verna crdi. Both cars are around 2006 manufactured but the cost difference between them is around 2.5 L. Does Verna justify spending 2.5 L more? Has Hyundai really improved upon the viva in terms of : a. Better Suspension ? I believe Verna goes berserk at high speeds ( speeds which I will never touch ). b. Improved engine performance/ NVH levels ? c. Better seating comfort, especially for the rear seats ? Are the rear seats as low as in the accent? Please let me have your views. Thanks. Last edited by nitindangoria : 20th February 2009 at 18:44. Reason: Grammatical mistake
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20th February 2009, 18:45	#2
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,492 Times View My Garage	Verna. Newer,better model. And you can get extended warranty.
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20th February 2009, 18:46	#3
live2drive BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: New Delhi Posts: 525 Thanked: 27 Times View My Garage	I would anyday go for Verna CRDi. Yes the Verna does get unstable at high speeds. Seating comfort is better in the Verna(not as low as the accent). Also, have heard that the three pot engine in the Accent CRDi needs an overhaul at around 60-70K kms. IMO go for the Verna and you'l not regret the 2.5L price difference. P.S. What is the mileage on both the cars?
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23rd February 2009, 00:02	#4
loving_alaap BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Ahmedabad Posts: 808 Thanked: 9 Times	Well i would take an expert mechanic & analyze about the condition of the car. If the engine is good than its worth to save 2.5 Lacs definitely. IMO Viva looks better than Verna.
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23rd February 2009, 16:05	#6
ShyamSCrdi BHPian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 344 Thanked: 2 Times	The verna for its engine. But the viva for its looks and its stability any day. If i was to go in for either i would go in for the viva.
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23rd February 2009, 16:35	#7
nitindangoria BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 109 Thanked: 3 Times	Thanks to you all for your replies. I have put in an indent for a Verna ABS. It might take some time because finding a used Verna ABS is a bit difficult.
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3rd March 2009, 11:06	#8
vkochar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Delhi / Agra / London Posts: 2,146 Thanked: 819 Times View My Garage	It is extremely difficult to find a used Verna CRDi. In fact I would be surprised if you can find a good condition used Viva CRDi also ! The Verna is a fantastic Diesel sedan and has amazing power and driveability is tops. Not many people part with their Hyundai Diesels. Its with you for a long time. But keep an eye out and I am sure you will find one soon. I feel a 2006 Model Verna ABS would be around 5.5 - 6 Lacs in Hyderabad. Am I right ?
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3rd March 2009, 14:28	#9
ScorpMan BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: DL/PB/HR Posts: 366 Thanked: 132 Times	Nitin, if there is no budget constraint, than Verna is the one to go for. Its absolutely worth the difference over Accent. And, i dont think finding a used Verna CRDI in good condition is difficult, although ABS is extremely rare to find in Used market. BUt, do insist on Service Records .
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6th March 2009, 15:40	#10
nitindangoria BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 109 Thanked: 3 Times	@ vkochar and scorpman : Sorry not to have replied to you both earlier. I'm a bit surprised that an ABS verna crdi is selling for around 7 L plus and not for 5.5-6L as you have guessed. As for the service records, I will surely insist on them but I doubt if they'd be in order. Not many owners bother to keep their service records. There is also the element of the true ownership of the car. I have been warned that there are lots of stolen cars being sold with fake papers.
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6th March 2009, 16:47	#11
Ramsagar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: BLR_Nellore(AP) Posts: 1,396 Thanked: 252 Times View My Garage	You can go for Verna. Though it 2+, you will get a better resale value in long run with additional horses under the hood. Depreciation will be more for Viva and I want to remind you that the on road price is 50-60k cheaper than standard accent. If the viva sparingly used and in good condition, then it’s your call. It would be clear if you give the specification (year of Mfd, kms on odo etc) of both the vehicles, then it easier to decide. Remember we are spending 6L for hatch swift vdi-78 bhp, doesn’t matter to spend the same for verna-110 bhp+sedan (if your budget permits) No offence meant.
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6th March 2009, 17:06	#12
chipfoose BHPian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: blr Posts: 86 Thanked: 0 Times	buddy go ahead with a verna ,viva is a discontinued model. make sure that the verna is in good condition, if its under extended warranty then thats the car for you. all the best.
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6th March 2009, 19:26	#13
brandon BANNED Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 42 Thanked: 0 Times	Both are good cars. Even the Viva CRDI. IMHO, I find the Verna more appealing
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10th March 2009, 22:06	#14
kailashnj BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 958 Thanked: 375 Times	Verna only, don't even think of Viva CRDI. Verna is a beast in comparison to Viva crdi but a beast that has a sound heart too. Viva CRDi is known to have issues after 80kms and hence verna anyday. Regards, Kailash
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10th March 2009, 22:46	#15
hellstar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,072 Thanked: 44 Times	verna CRDI all the way the power of extended warranty will hold you in good stead for sure. And the extra horses will keep you ahead of the crowd
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