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tsk1979 · 6th June 2005, 12:50

thanx ported_head. The review was quite informative. But my cousin is a < 100 guy. So handling is not an issue. At the showroom the elantras parked had either goodyear or bridgestone. I wonder wether they discontinued kumhos. As for brake pedal travel, i guess that is always adjustible. So did anybody actually buy the elantra or were too peeved by it?

normally_crazy · 6th June 2005, 12:58

Tsk,

close your eyes and take the Hyundai Elantra. its cheaper , got better goodies , the A.S.S is very very good too !

the skoda - has a service interval of 7500 kms - none of the filters cost less than 750 and a rountine service (oil change + filters change ) should cost 6000 bucks atleast !

hope this helps

cheers

RX135 · 6th June 2005, 13:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steeroid

PLEASEPLEASE I implore, beseech, BEG you...DONT bring fiat into this too. Lets try to keep ONE thread free of Fiat, PLEASE.

Why? What's wrong with that?

If a Fiat car fits the bill, it will surely come into picture

Of course, in current context, he is looking for bigger powerful diesel, so Petra-D can not be considered here.

Steeroid · 6th June 2005, 13:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by RX135

Why? What's wrong with that?

If a Fiat car fits the bill, it will surely come into picture

Of course, in current context, he is looking for bigger powerful diesel, so Petra-D can not be considered here.

You just asked a question and provided the answer in the same post....

RX135 · 6th June 2005, 13:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steeroid

You just asked a question and provided the answer in the same post....

Nope! My question was generic one and answer was to specific question. Generic question remains the same. Is there anything wrong to bring Fiat car into consideration if it fits the requirements?

tsk1979 · 6th June 2005, 13:36

Thanks RJK and normally_crazy. I think after hearing of this cost, he wont touch the skoda by a barge pole. He drives 35000kms+ every year, so spending 1 rupee/km on maintainance is not such a good deal.

manson · 6th June 2005, 15:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsk1979

Any scorpio owners care to elaborate?

well i 've posted a review on my scorpio a few days back , but this is the second generation engine ! p.m. me if you have any queries though .

manson .

Rtech · 6th June 2005, 16:13

Well, I missed this thread, but looks like most of the points are covered already.

The Elantra seems the best option for your buddy. Plus, something you should check on - I believe Mumbai dealers are offering 3 years warranty with labour and consumable's included. i.e. you won't have to pay a dime for 3 years of regular service! That to me is the clincher, especially if it is going to be a high mileage car.

However, expect peanuts back when it comes time to sell it.

tsk1979 · 6th June 2005, 16:26

Hyundai now offers 4 years/80K warranty on elantra and dealers offer 1lac discount. On road=10lacs. Checked the second hand market too. One year old elantra sells for 8lac delhi. Thats shedding 2lac on road value in one year.

sivadas · 6th June 2005, 19:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by RX135

Nope! My question was generic one and answer was to specific question. Generic question remains the same. Is there anything wrong to bring Fiat car into consideration if it fits the requirements?

Come on RX, I am sure you know the answer for this as well. Steeroid never claimed that he doesn't hate Fiat

RX135 · 6th June 2005, 20:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by sivadas

Come on RX, I am sure you know the answer for this as well. Steeroid never claimed that he doesn't hate Fiat

Good one, Shivdas!

On serious note, I really don't think Steeroid hates Fiat cars as such, but he genuinely believes that they are overhyped. I respect his opinion.

But from his post, it appeared to me that Fiat cars are promoted on this forum by Fiat lovers, irrespective of customer's requirements. Just wanted to confirm with him if that is the case.

I personally won't recommend Petra if the owner wants stable company backup, brand image, good resale value, but if these factors are acceptable, I, without hesitation, rate Petra highest in C segment and I find nothing wrong in it.

(I have seen similar cases with other cars too. But, there is a big thread on unintentional bias towards cars. So, let's not restart it here).

Steeroid · 6th June 2005, 23:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by RX135

On serious note, I really don't think Steeroid hates Fiat cars as such, but he genuinely believes that they are overhyped. I respect his opinion.

I'm almost weeping with gratitude. Thanks RX.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RX135

But from his post, it appeared to me that Fiat cars are promoted on this forum by Fiat lovers, irrespective of customer's requirements. Just wanted to confirm with him if that is the case.

You're right. (More tears)

Quote:

Originally Posted by RX135

I personally won't recommend Petra if the owner wants stable company backup, brand image, good resale value, but if these factors are acceptable, I, without hesitation, rate Petra highest in C segment and I find nothing wrong in it.

BOTFT (bawling on the floor with tears, in case you didnt get it)...yeah mate, dead right. Somebody started this thread asking us to help with a decision between the Elantra and the Octavia, and along comes this dude who suggests a Petra (no, not you RX - you're my friend for life!)

Montoya · 7th June 2005, 00:30

Well here is the way it goes..

1) SKoda Octy if you can afford..

2) Elantra CRDi

3) Accent Crdi

4) Indigo..

and yeah do consider the Petra D.. i find it better then the Indigo..

Montoya · 7th June 2005, 10:05

@ TSK its not only the Elantra with a 1K discount its all the lower D segmenters.. includes Corolla, Optra and Octavia and your lovely Elantra..(No Pun)

amitoj · 7th June 2005, 10:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steeroid

I and along comes this dude who suggests a Petra

LOL... so sue me!!!

By the way, if Indigo is being considered, then why not petra?

6th June 2005, 12:50	#16
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,717 Thanked: 22,825 Times View My Garage	thanx ported_head. The review was quite informative. But my cousin is a < 100 guy. So handling is not an issue. At the showroom the elantras parked had either goodyear or bridgestone. I wonder wether they discontinued kumhos. As for brake pedal travel, i guess that is always adjustible. So did anybody actually buy the elantra or were too peeved by it?
	() Thanks

6th June 2005, 12:58	#17
normally_crazy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,369 Thanked: 528 Times View My Garage	Tsk, close your eyes and take the Hyundai Elantra. its cheaper , got better goodies , the A.S.S is very very good too ! the skoda - has a service interval of 7500 kms - none of the filters cost less than 750 and a rountine service (oil change + filters change ) should cost 6000 bucks atleast ! hope this helps cheers
	() Thanks

6th June 2005, 13:36	#21
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,717 Thanked: 22,825 Times View My Garage	Thanks RJK and normally_crazy. I think after hearing of this cost, he wont touch the skoda by a barge pole. He drives 35000kms+ every year, so spending 1 rupee/km on maintainance is not such a good deal.
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6th June 2005, 16:13	#23
Rtech Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,770 Thanked: 359 Times View My Garage	Well, I missed this thread, but looks like most of the points are covered already. The Elantra seems the best option for your buddy. Plus, something you should check on - I believe Mumbai dealers are offering 3 years warranty with labour and consumable's included. i.e. you won't have to pay a dime for 3 years of regular service! That to me is the clincher, especially if it is going to be a high mileage car. However, expect peanuts back when it comes time to sell it.
	() Thanks

6th June 2005, 16:26	#24
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,717 Thanked: 22,825 Times View My Garage	Hyundai now offers 4 years/80K warranty on elantra and dealers offer 1lac discount. On road=10lacs. Checked the second hand market too. One year old elantra sells for 8lac delhi. Thats shedding 2lac on road value in one year.
	() Thanks

7th June 2005, 00:30	#28
Montoya BANNED Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Best City In India Mumbai Posts: 665 Thanked: 0 Times	Well here is the way it goes.. 1) SKoda Octy if you can afford.. 2) Elantra CRDi 3) Accent Crdi 4) Indigo.. and yeah do consider the Petra D.. i find it better then the Indigo..
	() Thanks

7th June 2005, 10:05	#29
Montoya BANNED Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Best City In India Mumbai Posts: 665 Thanked: 0 Times	@ TSK its not only the Elantra with a 1K discount its all the lower D segmenters.. includes Corolla, Optra and Octavia and your lovely Elantra..(No Pun)
	() Thanks