[benbsb29]

Congrats to Man Utd for adding yet another feather to their cap.
Its was sweet revenge when Chelsea could only manage a draw.

That Ryan Giggs scored the deciding goal was only befitting to a player of his calibre.
Looking forward to the Champions League final now.

[nkapoor777]

Originally Posted by benbsb29

That Ryan Giggs scored the deciding goal was only befitting to a player of his calibre.

Absolutely, just reward for a great professional. He deserved it more than anyone else. It shows you, nice men don't always come last. God has a way of rewarding them as well.

The past couple of months have been pretty traumatic for both Giggsy and Scholsey. People have been after their lives, calling for them to be put away on the back burner. My word, have the things changed for the better for them. First Scholsey puts a rocket past Barca and now Giggsy gets the goal for the title. Before that goal, Wigan were in the game, and it just takes one stupid mistake or a stroke of bad luck to concede.

[benbsb29]

Scholes however needs to time his tackles well, he barely escaped what should have been a sending off for his second offence.

[nkapoor777]

Originally Posted by benbsb29

Scholes however needs to time his tackles well, he barely escaped what should have been a sending off for his second offence.

He won't learn that even if he played for another 20 years.

[wanderlustindia]

Originally Posted by benbsb29

Scholes however needs to time his tackles well, he barely escaped what should have been a sending off for his second offence.

Thats his Achilles heel for ages and like nkapoor said, its hard to come by at this stage in his career. To put it simple, he is a awful at tackles. But who is complaining. The guy has scored some scorchers all his life and he did that to Barca in the semis.

[mayurpalav]

It's a pity that England haven't qualified for the Euro 2008.
Most of Man U won't be there.

June 7th Kick off, waiting eagerly.

[wanderlustindia]

Originally Posted by mayurpalav

It's a pity that England haven't qualified for the Euro 2008.
Most of Man U won't be there.

June 7th Kick off, waiting eagerly.

True. But lets hold our horses till the Champions League Finale! And then we can start discussing the Euro 2008.

Can we have a poll for the Champions League Final? ManU v Chelsea. The first bout won by ManU by clinching the Premiership. Can they do the double and rob Chelsea of their only chance of laying their hands on a trophy this season? Can't wait for 21st may. Tune into Ten Sports at 11:30 pm for live action.

[finneyp]

Originally Posted by mayurpalav

It's a pity that England haven't qualified for the Euro 2008.

Yes, it is very baffling!
Though EPL has so many talented and promising English players, they fail to click when they play together for their national team!

[wanderlustindia]

Originally Posted by finneyp

Yes, it is very baffling!
Though EPL has so many talented and promising English players, they fail to click when they play together for their national team!

The problem with the English team has been managing a bunch of talented players. The manager is responsible for this job and Sven Goran Erikkson and Steve McLaren both failed to do the job.

Another problem that has troubled them is how to fit in Steven Gerrard and Frank Lampard in the same team. Both have similar style of play, attacking. In Owen Hargreaves they have an excellent holding midfielder, but if he is injured they would struggle in that department.

A lone striker in Rooney was also not working for them and the other strikers that have shown promise have faded away slowly but surely. Michael Owen is injury prone and is a manager's nightmare because of that!

Lets hope Scolari can turn things around for the English team for the WC 2010. They are long overdue for a big one since winning the WC back in '66.

[mayurpalav]

I feel the problem with English players lies in the fact that almost all of them play for an English Club.

I am not debating the fact that the EPL is the best league in Europe.

But somehow I feel exposure in other countries makes you understand the nuances better.

[nkapoor777]

Originally Posted by wanderlustindia

Lets hope Scolari can turn things around for the English team for the WC 2010.

Originally Posted by mayurpalav

I feel the problem with English players lies in the fact that almost all of them play for an English Club.

I am not debating the fact that the EPL is the best league in Europe.

But somehow I feel exposure in other countries makes you understand the nuances better.

Hey mayur, the problem is very simple. You need to play as a team to win anything. The England team under Steve McLaren was just a assembly of star players and no more. He was afraid to take tough decisions and cared too much about player's reputations.

I hope Capello can do better. Its not all bad with England missing out on Euro 2008, I tell you. At least the English contingent in the United team would be a lot fresher after such a long and hard season.

[wanderlustindia]

Oops! I am sorry mate. I meant Capello and not Scolari. My bad!

Capello has worked wonders with club teams. Remains to be seen how well he can organize the English national team.

[mayurpalav]

Originally Posted by nkapoor777

Hey mayur, the problem is very simple. You need to play as a team to win anything (I completely agree).

The England team under Steve McLaren was just a assembly of star players and no more. He was afraid to take tough decisions and cared too much about player's reputations.
(In my opinion, McLaren was the best that they could get)

I hope Capello (I have my doubts about him) can do better.
Its not all bad with England missing out on Euro 2008, I tell you.
(You should say that to all the die-hard English fans ).

At least the English contingent in the United team would be a lot fresher after such a long and hard season.
(It'll be really nice for C. Ronaldo to share his Euro 2008 experience with his Man U team mates )(

I am in no way trying to degrade the English, but it's really really sad to see that a team with so much potential not making it to the continent's major competition. The talent is definitely visible, I am sceptical about the temperament though. There is definitely a thought in my head, Why doesn't the FA hire, Sir Alex Fergusson as the English coach ? He has the required experience, is a hit amongst players and will probably be handling most of his wards at Man U !!. Beats me....

And finally,In my opinion - To represent your country at ANY international meet/tournament is a bigger high than representing your club in the final of the Champions league.

[normally_crazy]

Poll added for the Champions League, I feel Man-U should put it across to Chelsea.

[suman]

Not letting me vote since I voted on the earlier one. I'll go with my heart this time - I hope Chelsea can put it across to ManU nice & proper