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Originally Posted by dpkbehera
(Post 4696046)
I am looking to park some surplus funds in low risk mutual funds rather than FD's. I have shortlisted the categories Equity Arbitrage and Liquid Funds. |
Higher rated funds are giving low returns and vice versa as per moneycontrol |
Originally Posted by SmartCat
(Post 4696116)
The advantage of arbitrage funds is that it offers liquid fund like returns but is treated as an equity fund for taxation purposes. If you are losing a significant chunk of your debt fund returns to tax, then you can shift some capital to arbitrage funds. Clearly understand how arbitrage funds work before investing in such funds. It is "risk free" by design, but it is better to understand how it generates returns before investing. |
Equity savings funds aim to generate returns from equities, arbitrage trades, and fixed income securities. To retain equity taxation, funds will restrict the fixed income (debt) exposure to 35 percent. Besides, to reduce volatility and hedge the portfolio, these funds actively use derivative strategies. Still, some amount of equity is unhedged (pure equity cash market) to prop up the returns of the portfolio. The equity and the derivative exposure is considered as ‘equity’ allocation and hence, these categories of funds are treated as equity funds. The unhedged equity exposure typically ranges from 15 percent to 40 percent, and the rest of the portfolio is hedged to gain from arbitrage opportunities |
Pure arbitrage funds hedge their cash positions entirely and hence, the return from a market movement (from unhedged equity) is ruled out. In equity savings funds, there is a good chunk of unhedged equity that can generate returns higher than arbitrage funds. To this extent, equity savings funds carry far higher risk and higher return potential than arbitrage funds. |
Originally Posted by hothatchaway
(Post 4696982)
What do you think of 'equity savings funds'? Almost all fund houses now offer these and where they stand out in comparison to arbitrage funds is that there is a portion (could be as high as 40pc) of unhedged equity. In a bull market these funds could generate decent tax efficient returns provided the interest rates are also stable. |
Originally Posted by SmartCat
(Post 4696116)
The advantage of arbitrage funds is that it offers liquid fund like returns but is treated as an equity fund for taxation purposes. If you are losing a significant chunk of your debt fund returns to tax, then you can shift some capital to arbitrage funds. |
Originally Posted by JediKnight
(Post 4697046)
On a different note i got email from Franklin Tempelton that they are implementing "segregation" for there Ultra Short Term Bond Fund where i am an investor. On the surface of it looks like a side pocketing implementation. The timing of this make me wonder if they are smelling a default from Vodafone_Idea where this fund has significant exposure. |
Originally Posted by JediKnight
(Post 4697046)
On a different note i got email from Franklin Tempelton that they are implementing "segregation" for there Ultra Short Term Bond Fund where i am an investor. On the surface of it looks like a side pocketing implementation. The timing of this make me wonder if they are smelling a default from Vodafone_Idea where this fund has significant exposure. |
Originally Posted by JediKnight
(Post 4697046)
On a different note i got email from Franklin Tempelton that they are implementing "segregation" for there Ultra Short Term Bond Fund where i am an investor. On the surface of it looks like a side pocketing implementation. The timing of this make me wonder if they are smelling a default from Vodafone_Idea where this fund has significant exposure. |
Originally Posted by DigitalOne
(Post 4697228)
Yes, I also got this mail. Apart from Ultra Short Term bond fund, I also have investment in FT Low Duration which has around 5% exposure to Vodafone. |
Originally Posted by RiGOD
(Post 4697217)
I received the mail too. Have invested in their Ultra Short Term Fund. I'm in a dilemma whether to redeem and reinvest elsewhere or stay invested :Frustrati |
Originally Posted by JediKnight
(Post 4697046)
Wondering if equity funds really have a tax advantage over debt funds after the introduction of LTCG tax on equity. If held for more than three years debt funds get indexation benefit and the real tax rate has actually turned out be less than equity in my case at-least. |
Originally Posted by lapis_lazuli
(Post 4697303)
Quick question to all: what to do with the SIPs now? At> 40K and Nifty close to 12000 I have weekly SIPs which I am buying very very high( large caps, banking sector funds) ! I am not able to gauge, make sense of or figure out, with my common sense. Please advise. My SIP portfolio is 50 equity, 20 hybrid, 30 debt! |
Originally Posted by lapis_lazuli
(Post 4697303)
Quick question to all: what to do with the SIPs now? At> 40K and Nifty close to 12000 I have weekly SIPs which I am buying very very high( large caps, banking sector funds) ! Should I stop and divert to liquid or ultra short term debt funds? I am a "long term" person, have persisted, but this is one market condition and sentiment, I am not able to gauge, make sense of or figure out, with my common sense. Please advise. My SIP portfolio is 50 equity, 20 hybrid, 30 debt! |
Originally Posted by saket77
(Post 4697239)
My investment philosophy w.r.t. debt/ liquid funds is very simple- when in doubt, stay out. I can take risks with my equity investments, but if I have parked my funds in a debt scheme, it means I am not willing to take additional risks on that. You may consider switching to liquid funds for a while. Franklin has one too. |
Originally Posted by saket77
(Post 4697239)
Franklin Income opps/ Short term income/ low duration/ dynamic accrual fund. These have significant exposure to Vodafone papers apart from Ultra short. Looking from a macro point of view, then Franklin is the one with the highest exposure to vodafone papers followed by Aditya birla & UTI in the market. My investment philosophy w.r.t. debt/ liquid funds is very simple- when in doubt, stay out. I can take risks with my equity investments, but if I have parked my funds in a debt scheme, it means I am not willing to take additional risks on that. You may consider switching to liquid funds for a while. Franklin has one too. Regards. |
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