[amitoj]

Originally Posted by anarchist

Atleast corruption is being probed and reported down south in BLR and we have a SWAT team called Lok Ayuktha, I don't hear anything like this being done in any other part of India. Well do that and then we will know. There is a need to start someplace to stem corruption and this has started in Bangalore over the last few years and no other place I suppose. There is a portal where you can postthe issues you face be it corruption, police inaction, traffic violations and a lot more.

To add to your facts Amitoj, they also found recovered "Stolen Jewellary" in one of the cops lockers too here in Bangalore.

I admire your optimism :-)
By the way, not a single officer caught red handed by Lok Ayukta has been punished so far. That should tell you something about its effectiveness....

[tsk1979]

Lok Ayukta? What kinda joke is this. Some justice goes to an office. Clickes some pics, gives them to TOI. People talk a lot and the officer keeps on enjoying the 'perks' of the job.
Its all a scam perpetrated by the govt so that when people say "what are you doing about corruption" they say "Lok ayukta".
Now if the state vigilance dept had actually taken any action it would have been a story.

[anarchist]

Well you see stray incidents of corrupt guys getting suspended and also some standing trial and jailed as well, check the link below....

http://www.karnataka.com/govt/corruption/news.shtml

This might be a few handful in number in comparison to the thousands caught by this team. Everywhere there has to be a poilitican crime nexus and well Politicians are well above the law....

Want to end this discussion here as we are going off topic

[Ajay]

Originally Posted by tsk1979

Lok Ayukta? What kinda joke is this. Some justice goes to an office. Clickes some pics, gives them to TOI. People talk a lot and the officer keeps on enjoying the 'perks' of the job.
Its all a scam perpetrated by the govt so that when people say "what are you doing about corruption" they say "Lok ayukta".
Now if the state vigilance dept had actually taken any action it would have been a story.

Lok Ayukta cannot be termed a joke at all. Atleast he is doing whatever he is permitted to within the government framework. The Lok Ayukta does not have powers to probe the people in power and the elected representatives which is stilll ( and will be always)being debated in the cabinet and everyone knows it will never happen. It is not the LokAyukta's job to dismiss the people that are corrupt , it is the duty of the respective departments to which they work for. Wonder what "perks" you are talking about??

Remember the elected people caught on TV for taking bribes??
So much for the system!

[Jay]

Originally Posted by manaa45

quite safe for women, i wouldnt stay anywhere else.

I'm quite amazed you said that... have you heard of a cop called Sunil More ??? need i say more ???

Not yet been to Mumbai so i would not want to comment upon it...

I stayed in Delhi for 1 year, one hell of an experience that was.... in that 1 year i saw temperatures of 47 C to 4 C, too extreme to handle for a guy from Bangalore. love the roads there. certainly a no if i have to live there ( i would live here only if i'm provided with an A/C in the summer and a heater in the winter....LOL !!! )

Gurgaon/Noida.. almost merged with delhi...

Stayed in Hyderabad for a brief period... not much life there, atleast as compared to Bangalore... Roads have improved very much, IT oppurtunities on the rise.

Lived most of my life in Bangalore, i totally agree with the people who say infrastructure is bad. Roads are really bad but improving nowdays ( Bannerghatta road too... ). still good opputunities for IT people. The weather however deteriorating is still better than what i experienced in the north... one more reason as to why i would like to live in bangalore.

Originally Posted by jango

the climate is all screwed up, too hot now....

dude just go and see how hot it gets in the other places mentioned in the list.

one more reason as to why people ( atleast i would ) prefer to live in the south is for the hospitality that they recieve,

Originally Posted by amitoj

I have always found blind passion for the city where one lives quite amusing. Passion is ok but going to the extent of saying that u cant live anywhere else but so n so place makes u a handicapped person, if seen from logic's point.

couldnt agree more with you amitoj

[meerkat]

Originally Posted by anarchist

My Choice is Bangalore... any day

1> Infrastructure.

Road conditions are getting better day by day, new CM looks productive

Could it be because that's the only way to go ? Reminds me of the Philips
slogan : "let's make things better" :-). This is a city where road conditions
must be among the worst in the country ! Forget about potholes, -- even a
newly surfaced road will make your spine jar if you're on a bike, or your car
will sway like a boat. Apparently the concept of making the base flat is
unheard of (unless we come back to the question of corruption again) ! Before
I saw Bangalore roads, never had experienced such uneven "new" road surfaces
(I'm not talking about a handful of newer high profile roads) !

Talking about the new CM, -- must be the most efficient CM in the country
if he's responsible for recent road developments in the city within days of
assuming office ! I've been negotiating a moonscape of a road for last two
years. May be I'll see a spanking new resurfaced road while returning this
evening itself, thanks to the new super-efficient CM !

[amitoj]

Originally Posted by Jay

Lived most of my life in Bangalore, i totally agree with the people who say infrastructure is bad. Roads are really bad but improving nowdays ( Bannerghatta road too...

hehe... Bannerghatta Road is improving coz the Prez is scheduled to make a visit to the Bannerghatta National Park to open something for the kids. I hope the Prez makes it a quarterly process to visit BNP... thats the only way BG Road will stay in tip top shape Plus, it would give the Prez some real work to do as well!

[Jay]

LOL !!! i agree with you Amitoj... a temporary relief atleast to the people living there... but in the time to come, i'm sure it'll get back to its previous condition, as there's so much traffic and the roads are not being widened... which is a must.... all over bangalore... ( hope the CM takes notice of this... )

[manaa45]

Originally Posted by Jay

I'm quite amazed you said that... have you heard of a cop called Sunil More ??? need i say more ???

Not yet been to Mumbai so i would not want to comment upon it...

sunil more incident has been a terrifying one but then these kind of cases happne in cities like delhi everyday, and after sunil more case a couple in marine drive area where rape had occured took up the initiative to help alcoholic cops leave the habit and they have so far helped 175 cops from the clutches of alcohol. nobody would do that in other city i suppose.

mumbai is the best and it is safe for women.

shubbhi

[goldie_malhotra]

Originally Posted by tsk1979

Food eh? Well then delhi wins.
you can have delicious paranthas and great food for as low as 40rs/head to 2000rs/head. It offers the entire range. There are great resturants offering 100-150/head, stalls where you get great fresh food for 15-20rs/head!

Well said - Delhi is most certainly the place if you are a foodie - the choice that one has here is simply amazing - and if you happed to wander off into the walled city, your taste buds will thank you for generations to come.

However, the most affordable city as far as food is concerned has to be calcutta - truly amazing prices as zappo has mentioned - I was there during my college days, and the prices were like a dream come true.

[man23ish]

Originally Posted by meerkat

I'm surprised that food was not considered to be one of the critical
parameters ! Too subjective you say ? Well the discussion has
progressed along subjective lines anyway! And don't we see raging
passionate discussions about looks of cars everyday ? Food is
supposed to be any less critical ?!

And it is not all subjective either. We can talk about food quality,
variety, availability, etc. among other things. Do these not matter ?

Anyway, I couldn't cast my vote, because the only city I believed
myself entitled to vote about (due to substantial recent stay)
gets my thumbs down, -- a negative vote. There was no such option !

Thanks for bringing "food" up. I knew i was missing something. And of-course it ranks right up there in my list of priorities.. How on earth could i miss it out?

[spadival]

Originally Posted by amitoj

hehe... Bannerghatta Road is improving coz the Prez is scheduled to make a visit to the Bannerghatta National Park to open something for the kids. I hope the Prez makes it a quarterly process to visit BNP... thats the only way BG Road will stay in tip top shape Plus, it would give the Prez some real work to do as well!

Heyy.. Maybe you should write to Kalam about your suggestion !! Considering the kind of person he is, he may actually find some merit in visiting places which have the worst roads !!

[SLK]

.. In the light of all the modernisation techniques .. going on here in Delhi!.. (Court-esy the Govt.)... Delhi would be a dream city in a few years..
But the flip side!... lakhs of poor people lose their jobs!... & livelyhood.
The city would be very expensive!.... Parking would be the primary cost of running a car.

[man23ish]

First of all, it was not my intention to start this thread for bangalore and mumbai bashing.

Regarding Missing out "Food" in the list of requirements:
I apologise for having missed it out.

Regarding Safety of Women in Mumbai:
Tell me the name of another city, except for Ahmedabad in India, where women can travel unescorted at 10:00pm in the night in a local train or a bus. Thats Mumbai for you. Although i must admit that even in Ahmedabad/Gujarat the women-folk can go out bindaas irrespective of the time of the day. You can attribute it to the influence of Gujarati culture on Mumbai.

Regarding Roads in Bangalore:
I must admit that the roads are improving, i can see the work going on in Indira Nagar 80Ft Road and 100Ft Road. And the trimming of trees before the rains commence this year. All these things are positive and can be attributed to improved governance in Bangalore. But then, why weren't the same basic things done last year and the year before.. I can smell a political vendetta against the previous government. On the contrary, all the good work by the present government can also be a hogwash to win public opinion in case of mid-term polls and get back to square one of non-performance in the next term.

Regarding Corruption in Bangalore:
I agree that bangalore ranks quite high in corruption, but that doesn't mean that other cities are spared of corruption. Its just that nobody found out the levels of corruption in other cities. Reminds me of the saying "You are not a theif, unless you are caught.."

Enuf Said.

P.S. How come Punekar's are so silent on this poll ?!?

[normally_crazy]

Come on guys ! Now we hear that the Metro in Delhi is going up to Noida because of the CW games. I guess all the Political Power being based in Delhi really helps the city's cause.

And here in Bombay what do we get ? A protest against a flyover by some very "PROMINENT" citizens.

I don't understand why the goverment hasn't started work on the Metro in Bombay - if any city in India is in urgent need of it , its Bombay.

As for Bombay being safe for women, those days are long past. I wouldn't want my GF/sister or any other female I know to venture out alone in Bombay after 9 pm , call me old fashioned / budda / stupid / paranoid , whatever. Thats just what I feel.

Cheers