Ispecial accents of India

DCEite · 25th April 2006, 14:50

Hey.. all south indian Team-BHPians..

I have never understood this... some of you call Maruti "Maruthi".. infact t is replaced by th in many words..

And "the".. is usually written as "teh"...

Any particular reasons??

jkdas · 25th April 2006, 14:52

lol; you read Sam's post about "teh"

amitoj · 25th April 2006, 14:59

add to that... "H" is pronounced "HETCH" instead of "ETCH",
"M" is pronounced "YEMM"
"S" is pronounced "YESS"
Its a sight to watch in our industry when a foreigner asks a south indian to spell his name coz he couldnt get it as a whole.... :P
I guess its got to something to do with phonetics of the native tongue. Jus like french cant say "The"... they call it "Ze".. italians add "o" at the end of everything... etc etc... its just the way it is.

By the way, I consider myself extremely lucky that none of my marksheets from the Calicut Univ came with my name spelt "Amithoj", given that they were all handwritten!!

Amitoj

tsk1979 · 25th April 2006, 15:13

I had to go to Calicut university for my name change in the marksheet twice. they made me Thanveer instead of Tanveer. Finally when I showed them my admit card with the correct name they agreed to change it.
Another of my seniors Sumit was made Sumith umpteen times.

mohit · 25th April 2006, 15:17

Not just South India... One of My friends became Vikasbhai from Vikas in his marksheets at ahmedabad!

amitoj · 25th April 2006, 15:24

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Originally Posted by mohit

Not just South India... One of My friends became Vikasbhai from Vikas in his marksheets at ahmedabad!

ROFL!!!!
I dont know how to put the punjabi accent into words here but it has got to be the funniest one!
"O wenn aiee look into yawr eyeeezzz" perhaps???

and here is another one... bear with me for the length of this one but the song itself is a long one...

On the dark GT highway
Lots of lice in my hair
Warm smell of some dhabas
Rising up in the air
Up ahead in the distance
I saw a ttharra joint
My head grew heavy and my sight grew dim
I must have drunk over a pint
There he stood in the driveway
I heard his truck helper yell
And I was thinking to myself
This had to be Devinder Singh Behl
Then he belched, and scratched his head
And he was on the highway
And the other drivers leaning from their truck doors

I thought I heard them say
Welcome to the hotel Karnal-a-fonia
Vaddi changi place (vaddi changi place)
Vaddi changi place
Massage, manicure, pedicure at Karnal-a-fonia
Any kind of ear (any kind of ear)
You can clean it here

His car's grill was definitely twisted
He's got a Maruti-Benz
He 's got a lot of petty petty MLAs
Who he calls his friends
Dancing bhangra in the courtyard
See sardarji sweat
Some dancer is this Devinder
Armpits stinking wet
So I told the bell captain
I made a reservation online
And he said, " Oye khoteyya our internet hasnt
worked at all
Since 1999
And still those drivers were calling from the drive way
Woke me in the middle of the night
I know I heard them say
Welcome to the hotel Karnal-a-fonia
Itthey karlo rest (itthey karlo rest)
Itthey karlo rest
Aish karo at the hotel Karnal-a-fonia
Kudi umr bais (kudi umr bais)
Will serve you nice

Daler on the ceiling
And on the walls in every guise
And waitresses dressed like actresses
From flicks of Subhash Ghai's
And in the downstairs canteen
I sat down for my meal
Butter chicken, and sarson da saag
Had a shock when they showed me the bill
Looking for help I saw Devinder
Dancing wildly on the floor
I had to find my hostess back
Oh where is this Gurpreet Kaur?
Relax said Milkha Singh
Play golf with my son Jeev
Tu ban gaya Punjab da puttar
Now you cant ever leave
So here I am,
Wasting life at the Hotel Karnal-a-fonia
Vaddi changi place (vaddi changi place)
Vaddi changi place
Converted to member of Hotel Karnal-a-fonia
Whoever arrives (whoever arrives)
Stays till he dies !!!

mohit · 25th April 2006, 15:35

LOL!
That reminds of the "Sambhar of 69".

I had my first real six rupees, stole it from my father's pants.
went to a madrasi hotel, to eat the sambhar of 69.
Me and some kadke dost, had it all and we caught bukhaar,
abhinav puked, keni got ulcers, and shekhar ne maari dakar.
Oh when I went back there now, the food was as stale as ever,
and though it was 2005, still the sambhar was being served over there,
that was the worst food of my life.

Therez no use in complaining, when you got no other place to eat,
rushed in the evening to the doctors clinic, but he too was at the toilet seat,
yeah standing there waiting outside,nurse told me I will wait forever,
oh and when I held my breath,I knew that I had to use that loo there

That was the worst food of my life.

Back to the sambhar of 69.

Man I was getting killed, I was full and restless,
I needed to unwind, I guess nothing can wait forever - FOREVER... NO!!!!
And now the dhabas are changing, new dishes have come and gone,
sometimes when I pass that old madrasi lane, I still smell it, I can't be wrong.
Standing in those unwashed clothes, the waiters still call me in there,
oh the way my nostrils burn, I know that it will be served forever,
what was the worst food of my life.
yeah it was the sambhar of 69, the sambhar, the sambhar, the sambhar of 69 ……………

BTW Amitoj We are going way offtopic

S@~+#0$# · 25th April 2006, 15:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by dceite

Hey.. all south indian Team-BHPians..

I have never understood this... some of you call Maruti "Maruthi".. infact t is replaced by th in many words..

I ask why not? IMO I feel Maruthi should be the correct spelling as you are trying to spell a "thi" and not a 'tee'....

I really don't know how to explain this on paper and without speaking... LOL. Write the same thing down in Hindi or any local language and you will find a 'thi' and you'll realise what I am trying to say.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dceite

And "the".. is usually written as "teh"...

This ain't true. Must be a typo and can happen to anyoen...Oops. Yes "the" often gets pronounced as "teh" but not written.

Good ones Amitoj and Mohit.

amitoj · 25th April 2006, 15:48

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Originally Posted by S@~+#0$#

I ask why not? IMO I feel Maruthi should be the correct spelling as you are trying to spell a "thi" and not a 'tee'.... I really don't know how to explain this on paper and without speaking... LOL. Write the same thing down in Hindi or any local language and you will find a 'thi' and you'll realise what I am trying to say.

Well, then whats the correct way to write "Saathi"? The "thi" in Saathi aint pronounced the same way as u would pronounce "thi" in "Maruthi".

Bottomline is that the english language is inept in handling the sound variations in hindi and most other indian languages... hence the confusion.

Amitoj

deepakhon · 25th April 2006, 15:58

Yes. This is the trend in south india. My 8 month old angel's name is Smriti (not thi). I hope things will be fine for her in future

Zappo · 25th April 2006, 16:00

Haa haa haaaa... I was waiting for this explanation S@~+#0$#. Well, in such cases when people here give me this explanation (that A simple 't' is pronounced as ta as in Tomato and to make it pronounce as in Maruti you need to add the H) my patent question is how do you spell the name Tathagata? You do have this name here in south and it is spelt exactly as I wrote it (Tathagata). Why not Thathagatha in such a case?

By the way, another typical thing here is to add 'a' to the ending of most names. Examples could be Rama (Ram), Ramayana (Ramayan), Mahabharatha (Mahabharat) etc.

The addition of 'A' at the end can also signify a question at times. Once in my bachelor days while getting into the bathroom early for bath I realised that the door was loose on its hinges. So I asked my roomie (a chennaite) what happened to the door? His stunned question (he was busy doing something) was "dooraaaaa?".

Btw, call centers call these as MTI (Mother Tongue Influence) and are generally wary of hiring candidates with MTI for voice-based activities as they feel it is the most difficult thing to get rid of. The pronounciation of H, M, S all fall under MTI.

And no, 'the' is definitely not spelt as 'teh'. Thats only a typo

nitrous · 25th April 2006, 16:29

Dceite, its real funny to see u started this topic.
This is a worldwide phenomenon.

English is spoken in different accents in US,England, Australia,etc..

The case here is very similar. We just need to accept it.

supremeBaleno · 25th April 2006, 16:32

MTI (or RLI - Regional Language Influence) is not a South Indian thing as is generally made out to be. All parts of India have their own MTI influenced way of speaking English. And if the call centres in India follow a strict policy of not hiring people with MTI, most Indians will not qualify.

tifosikrishna · 25th April 2006, 16:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitrous

Dceite, its real funny to see u started this topic.
This is a worldwide phenomenon.

English is spoken in different accents in US,England, Australia,etc..

The case here is very similar. We just need to accept it.

Geoff Boycott is a classic example.

S@~+#0$# · 25th April 2006, 16:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by amitoj

Well, then whats the correct way to write "Saathi"? The "thi" in Saathi aint pronounced the same way as u would pronounce "thi" in "Maruthi".

Bottomline is that the english language is inept in handling the sound variations in hindi and most other indian languages... hence the confusion.

Amitoj

I agree with you on the English language being inept in handling the ..... confusion. I feel Saathi and Maruthi have been spelt correctly as it is the best you can do in English. I suggest to try and write a Hindi sentence in english and you'll find that each one of us will write it differently although we think it is the best conversion and we may all be wrong as there is no "the" way of writing non-english words in english. It is each one of us trying to write it such that it is closest to its pronounication in the local language.

We guys from the South feel the same way about North Indians excluding the 'a' in Rama and Mahabharatha

As far as Tathagata is concerned, I have not clue, it is quite an uncommon name and I will accept what ever Mr.Tathagata says his spelling is

.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zappo

His stunned question (he was busy doing something) was "dooraaaaa?".

Ha Ha, I agree that is common in the south. I have heard North-Indians say "Boofer" for "Woofer", "Applicason" for "Application", "Stason" for "Station", "Bikas" for "Vikas", "eggjactly" for "exactly", "shat" for "Shirt", "Bhuvan Sir" for "Bhubaneshwar" and lots more.

Guys, this is a fun thread, apologies if anyone is getting offended. If this is the case, please do let us know and we'll refrain.

25th April 2006, 14:50	#1
DCEite Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: NCR Posts: 3,413 Thanked: 2,515 Times	Ispecial accents of India Hey.. all south indian Team-BHPians.. I have never understood this... some of you call Maruti "Maruthi".. infact t is replaced by th in many words.. And "the".. is usually written as "teh"... Any particular reasons??
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25th April 2006, 14:52	#2
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,492 Times View My Garage	lol; you read Sam's post about "teh"
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25th April 2006, 14:59	#3
amitoj Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Windham, NH USA Posts: 3,346 Thanked: 3,054 Times View My Garage	add to that... "H" is pronounced "HETCH" instead of "ETCH", "M" is pronounced "YEMM" "S" is pronounced "YESS" Its a sight to watch in our industry when a foreigner asks a south indian to spell his name coz he couldnt get it as a whole.... :P I guess its got to something to do with phonetics of the native tongue. Jus like french cant say "The"... they call it "Ze".. italians add "o" at the end of everything... etc etc... its just the way it is. By the way, I consider myself extremely lucky that none of my marksheets from the Calicut Univ came with my name spelt "Amithoj", given that they were all handwritten!! Amitoj
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25th April 2006, 15:13	#4
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,717 Thanked: 22,811 Times View My Garage	I had to go to Calicut university for my name change in the marksheet twice. they made me Thanveer instead of Tanveer. Finally when I showed them my admit card with the correct name they agreed to change it. Another of my seniors Sumit was made Sumith umpteen times.
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25th April 2006, 15:17	#5
mohit BHPian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Toronto / Kurukshetra Posts: 677 Thanked: 168 Times	Not just South India... One of My friends became Vikasbhai from Vikas in his marksheets at ahmedabad!
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25th April 2006, 15:35	#7
mohit BHPian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Toronto / Kurukshetra Posts: 677 Thanked: 168 Times	LOL! That reminds of the "Sambhar of 69". I had my first real six rupees, stole it from my father's pants. went to a madrasi hotel, to eat the sambhar of 69. Me and some kadke dost, had it all and we caught bukhaar, abhinav puked, keni got ulcers, and shekhar ne maari dakar. Oh when I went back there now, the food was as stale as ever, and though it was 2005, still the sambhar was being served over there, that was the worst food of my life. Therez no use in complaining, when you got no other place to eat, rushed in the evening to the doctors clinic, but he too was at the toilet seat, yeah standing there waiting outside,nurse told me I will wait forever, oh and when I held my breath,I knew that I had to use that loo there That was the worst food of my life. Back to the sambhar of 69. Man I was getting killed, I was full and restless, I needed to unwind, I guess nothing can wait forever - FOREVER... NO!!!! And now the dhabas are changing, new dishes have come and gone, sometimes when I pass that old madrasi lane, I still smell it, I can't be wrong. Standing in those unwashed clothes, the waiters still call me in there, oh the way my nostrils burn, I know that it will be served forever, what was the worst food of my life. yeah it was the sambhar of 69, the sambhar, the sambhar, the sambhar of 69 …………… BTW Amitoj We are going way offtopic Last edited by mohit : 25th April 2006 at 15:37.
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25th April 2006, 15:58	#10
deepakhon Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,441 Thanked: 65 Times	Yes. This is the trend in south india. My 8 month old angel's name is Smriti (not thi). I hope things will be fine for her in future
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25th April 2006, 16:00	#11
Zappo Team-BHP Support Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 5,918 Thanked: 2,652 Times	Haa haa haaaa... I was waiting for this explanation S@~+#0$#. Well, in such cases when people here give me this explanation (that A simple 't' is pronounced as ta as in Tomato and to make it pronounce as in Maruti you need to add the H) my patent question is how do you spell the name Tathagata? You do have this name here in south and it is spelt exactly as I wrote it (Tathagata). Why not Thathagatha in such a case? By the way, another typical thing here is to add 'a' to the ending of most names. Examples could be Rama (Ram), Ramayana (Ramayan), Mahabharatha (Mahabharat) etc. The addition of 'A' at the end can also signify a question at times. Once in my bachelor days while getting into the bathroom early for bath I realised that the door was loose on its hinges. So I asked my roomie (a chennaite) what happened to the door? His stunned question (he was busy doing something) was "dooraaaaa?". Btw, call centers call these as MTI (Mother Tongue Influence) and are generally wary of hiring candidates with MTI for voice-based activities as they feel it is the most difficult thing to get rid of. The pronounciation of H, M, S all fall under MTI. And no, 'the' is definitely not spelt as 'teh'. Thats only a typo Last edited by Zappo : 25th April 2006 at 16:13.
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nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	Dceite, its real funny to see u started this topic. This is a worldwide phenomenon. English is spoken in different accents in US,England, Australia,etc.. The case here is very similar. We just need to accept it.
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25th April 2006, 16:32	#13
supremeBaleno Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chennai / Kochi Posts: 5,545 Thanked: 2,694 Times View My Garage	MTI (or RLI - Regional Language Influence) is not a South Indian thing as is generally made out to be. All parts of India have their own MTI influenced way of speaking English. And if the call centres in India follow a strict policy of not hiring people with MTI, most Indians will not qualify. Last edited by supremeBaleno : 25th April 2006 at 16:35.
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