Team-BHP > Shifting gears
Register New Topics New Posts Top Thanked Team-BHP FAQ


Reply
  Search this Thread
44,861 views
Old 5th November 2012, 17:56   #16
BHPian
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Mumbai
Posts: 137
Thanked: 24 Times
Re: Beware of Questionable Charitable Organizations & NGO's

My father used to donate a certain amount every year to CRY. However from last 2-3 years, there are so many people calling on behalf of CRY, he has stopped donations to them. He and me as well now give charity to the lokbiradari prakalpa run by Dr. Prakash Amte at hemalkasa.
F1amit is offline  
Old 6th November 2012, 12:50   #17
BHPian
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Pune
Posts: 288
Thanked: 81 Times
Re: Beware of Questionable Charitable Organizations & NGO's

From what I heard CRY like organisations are Umbrella NGO or Feeder organisation. They in turn finance projects run by other smaller NGOs who do field level work. I think the logic is, most of the small NGOs who actually work on the ground have no bandwidth or exprtise to collect the contribution.
radek is offline  
Old 6th November 2012, 14:12   #18
BHPian
 
sa_kiran's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Thane
Posts: 515
Thanked: 169 Times
Re: Beware of Questionable Charitable Organizations & NGO's

Quote:
Originally Posted by F1amit View Post
My father used to donate a certain amount every year to CRY. However from last 2-3 years, there are so many people calling on behalf of CRY, he has stopped donations to them. He and me as well now give charity to the lokbiradari prakalpa run by Dr. Prakash Amte at hemalkasa.
Prakash Amte also runs Maharogi Sewa Samiti. Donations can be made over NEFT, IFSC Code: MAHB0000792, Account number: 20255728439, e-mail: vikasamte@anandwan.in
sa_kiran is offline  
Old 6th November 2012, 14:38   #19
BHPian
 
Kaumad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Chennai
Posts: 175
Thanked: 656 Times
Re: Beware of Questionable Charitable Organizations & NGO's

Karmanyevaadhikaraste maa phaleshu kadachana
Maa karma phalaheturbhuh maa te sangostvakarmani

You have a right only over your deed and not the fruits thereof
Do not let the fruits of your deed be your motive; do not let your deed be governed by consequences
Kaumad is offline  
Old 6th November 2012, 16:11   #20
BHPian
 
Fillmore's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 492
Thanked: 581 Times
Re: Beware of Questionable Charitable Organizations & NGO's

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaumad View Post
Karmanyevaadhikaraste maa phaleshu kadachana
Maa karma phalaheturbhuh maa te sangostvakarmani

You have a right only over your deed and not the fruits thereof
Do not let the fruits of your deed be your motive; do not let your deed be governed by consequences
Donate but do not expect anything in return is the right motive absolutely no dispute on that.

However here the point of discussion is slightly different. It is whether your donation is indeed reaching the needy, or just getting wasted into the pockets of middlemen / funding agencies ?

No one is expecting any returns from what they are donating, just want to make sure we are not feeding wolves in sheep's clothing.
Fillmore is offline  
Old 6th November 2012, 20:22   #21
rkg
Senior - BHPian
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: bangalore
Posts: 1,044
Thanked: 594 Times
Re: Beware of Questionable Charitable Organizations & NGO's

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaumad View Post
Karmanyevaadhikaraste maa phaleshu kadachana
Maa karma phalaheturbhuh maa te sangostvakarmani

You have a right only over your deed and not the fruits thereof
Do not let the fruits of your deed be your motive; do not let your deed be governed by consequences
Implicit meaning in the present context is

Donate and do not expect you will go to heaven /fame etc .( this will be the reward)

Any donation should be secret (gupt dan). If one were to tom tom the fact that, he/she donated this much every year etc, he/she actually seeking publicity/fame as reward for the donation.
Then it does not serve the purpose

There is another thing called "Apatradan" meaning one should not donate to undeserving

Hence it is important that one should see that the donation reaches the needy and deserving

Last edited by rkg : 6th November 2012 at 20:23.
rkg is offline  
Old 8th November 2012, 16:07   #22
BHPian
 
ankan.m.blr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 870
Thanked: 961 Times
Re: Beware of Questionable Charitable Organizations & NGO's

I have some old books from my engg days that i want to donate to an NGO for needy students. If any T-BHPian is associated with any such NGO, can you please give me contact no or email address. 30+ books are there, all in good condition.
ankan.m.blr is offline  
Old 30th December 2012, 20:07   #23
BHPian
 
rxpaul's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Pune
Posts: 365
Thanked: 127 Times
Re: Beware of Questionable Charitable Organizations & NGO's

Wanted to donate an amount for any orphanage before the close of this year. A quick search in team-bhp lead me to this thread and a donation to Help Age India. A big thanks to Team-bhp.
rxpaul is offline  
Old 3rd November 2014, 19:03   #24
BHPian
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 510
Thanked: 1,448 Times
Re: Beware of Questionable Charitable Organizations & NGO's

Bumping an old thread.

From last couple of weeks calls started coming to me from two societies called

Help and Care

SenseintIndia

asking for help/donations.

Do anyone here has any thing to say about them. Don't want to readily discard them.

Thanks
Fordday.
fordday is offline  
Old 3rd November 2014, 19:33   #25
Senior - BHPian
 
carwatcher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Bardez, Goa
Posts: 1,184
Thanked: 1,032 Times
Re: Beware of Questionable Charitable Organizations & NGO's

I am surprised to see that why no one has mentioned Prime Minister's National Relief Fund or Chief Minister's National Relief Fund as almost most of us make the donation online or on phone via Credit Card and most of us aren't sure regarding the utilization of amount by the organization then what is stopping you from donating on their website.
Such donations qualify for 100% deduction and are audited by CAG.
carwatcher is offline  
Old 3rd November 2014, 20:49   #26
Senior - BHPian
 
Jaguar's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 1,208
Thanked: 2,541 Times
Re: Beware of Questionable Charitable Organizations & NGO's

Quote:
Originally Posted by carwatcher View Post
I am surprised to see that why no one has mentioned Prime Minister's National Relief Fund or Chief Minister's National Relief Fund
Aren't these run be the same politicians and bureaucrats who make our tax money vanish into thin air? Why put more into a black hole?
Jaguar is offline  
Old 3rd November 2014, 21:01   #27
Senior - BHPian
 
carwatcher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Bardez, Goa
Posts: 1,184
Thanked: 1,032 Times
Re: Beware of Questionable Charitable Organizations & NGO's

So you are of the view that 99.99% of politicians and bureaucrats are corrupt and won't even spare money given as donation. I am surprised to say the least.

I strongly believe atleast the PMNRF money is being put to good use. To my surprise when I made small donation while floods in Kashmir I read that last year the total donations in PMNRF were around 17.59 crores only.

Somewhere we have to trust someone someday.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
Aren't these run be the same politicians and bureaucrats who make our tax money vanish into thin air? Why put more into a black hole?

Last edited by carwatcher : 3rd November 2014 at 21:14.
carwatcher is offline  
Old 6th November 2014, 11:58   #28
Senior - BHPian
 
Jaguar's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 1,208
Thanked: 2,541 Times
Re: Beware of Questionable Charitable Organizations & NGO's

Quote:
Originally Posted by carwatcher View Post
So you are of the view that 99.99% of politicians and bureaucrats are corrupt and won't even spare money given as donation. I am surprised to say the least.

Somewhere we have to trust someone someday.
Where did I say that 99.99 percent are corrupt? That was your interpretation. But I do stand by my view that majority are corrupt. It is a fact, whether you like it or not.

Govt charities are already funded by tax money. There are many genuine charities near home who are doing the ground level work and are mostly cash strapped. IMO a donation to these will have more impact.
Jaguar is offline  
Old 6th November 2014, 14:04   #29
Team-BHP Support
 
Chetan_Rao's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 5,898
Thanked: 24,070 Times
Re: Beware of Questionable Charitable Organizations & NGO's

Call me cynical, but I can't bring myself to trust anyone claiming to help the poor/needy. There are just too many shady organisations around, and such morons make sure even the genuine ones are looked at with suspicion.

Over the years, I've developed a habit of helping someone who I can see benefiting from my actions. Most government schools run volunteer teaching programs we can help with on weekends, most of us have maids or other laborers around us with kids who have no decent clothes, not enough food and no way to get a decent education. I prefer getting involved in such instances. I get the satisfaction of having actually done someone good (instead of just giving away some disposable income), and they benefit from what they get too. Win-win, instead of making a donation and wondering what happened to it.
Chetan_Rao is offline  
Old 6th November 2014, 14:46   #30
Senior - BHPian
 
srishiva's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Bengaluru
Posts: 4,375
Thanked: 2,256 Times
Re: Beware of Questionable Charitable Organizations & NGO's

Recently there was a case where some religious organization in Tamil Nadu authorized a organization in Bengaluru to collect donations. These guys in turn outsourced it to one more organization and were promised a percentage of money. Thousands of crores (yes) was collected and the actual people who collected the money did not get what they were promised. They filed a cheating case.

After this I stopped giving anything especially to religious ones. The others keep calling if you give them once and its a big irritant.
srishiva is offline  
Reply

Most Viewed


Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Team-BHP.com
Proudly powered by E2E Networks