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It is only in parliamentary system, the majority for the winners is rare. India has never had a govt with majority votes. The fact that India never had a majority govt doesnt mean that govt can claim majority support for their policies, because they simply dont have majority support. Quote:
What I want to say is this - plan and implement whatever policy the govt feels appropriate, but never claim majority support for their policies. PS: Since all PMs till now have misused the word 'political mandate', you can be rest assured that I dont intend to "attack and defame government of different political ideology", because then I will be attacking and defaming the entire political spectrum. Last edited by deerhunter : 17th January 2017 at 21:45. | ||
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The public has also tried certain party in Delhi for the first time so its an ongoing phenomenon. | |
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This can only happen in a pseudo-democracy (like N Korea), or a hard core two party state. Elsewhere there is enough fragmentation to ensure that the winner does not cross 50%. I do not think we have crossed 50% except maybe in the elections immediately after the Emergency or after the Indira assassination. Even here I have my doubts. |
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| ![]() In a multi party democracy, there can't be an absolute people'e mandate for a single party. Let's just agree that the current Govt got more "Ayes" than "nayes" and thus have constitutional as well as "major voter consensus" for them. This is much better than some of the previous cases of "mili-juli sarkar" where small political parties with not even 10% of seats (forget about constitutional mandate or people mandate) came together to form Govt, and ruled India like it belonged to them. Quote:
Of the second part, no one has any authority to say anything (no one has any authority to ask me about my authority too, isn't it?) , this is a debate and people are putting their own views and opinions. Last edited by Nav-i-gator : 18th January 2017 at 10:11. | |
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![]() You, a well educated, internet enabled person who is actively participating in a discussion about demonetization does not know about the mess at the RBI with regard to citizens/PIO/NRI/OCIs and you still will not believe that a pensioner who lives in isolation may not be aware of the whole shindig? Oh, the humanity!! | |
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Why, nobody vectored in ATM mules. As soon as finger marking started the queues mysteriously vanished. Our bank managers, jewellers, and many others did their best / worst and sold their souls for a few coppers. Nobody thought about the issues of the changed size (esp thickness) of the new currency. Tricky as it count not have been vectored in with the need for secrecy. What did our politicos and professionals want - a three day (even one would have done) notice! Last edited by sgiitk : 18th January 2017 at 11:04. | |
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Examples - parents whose kids were actively trying to con them out of their property/ savings and then kick them out folks trying to avoid confidence tricksters people who have lost money in bank/mfi collapses earlier Older people with slight dementia, and no children, who don't want to give up their property. Older couples with agricultural land, far away from markets, who stock up on essentials only now and then, and live off the land. Not everybody is as connected as we are Quote:
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| ![]() The level of 'I don't see it so it probably doesn't exist' ignorance on this thread never ceases to amaze me. There are parts of this country that still don't have proper utilities or road/rail/air connectivity, and communities are forced to maintain self-sufficiency because they have no choice, and consequently it isn't unbelievable they don't feel the necessity to interact with the mainstream as often as we do. Just because we aren't one of them and they aren't a significant chunk of the population, doesn't give us a right to judge them or worse, dismiss them as minor unavoidable collateral damage. I'm sure they'll have a few choice words for urban yuppies like us too ![]() Last edited by Chetan_Rao : 18th January 2017 at 11:12. |
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Maybe I am skeptical, but apart from the last one (old couple with agricultural land, living off the farm produce - we call it Self sustaining farming in technical terms), none others seem plausible for continuous 50 days not even coming to know of the remonetization exercise going on. Esp when every TV channel, every radio channel and every newspaper was crying out loud about it. And if such people exist, what else would a govt can do to let them know? Isn't state govt more responsible for it than central govt? Many such people would still be living in oblivion, still not knowing what went by in past 2 months odd... Quote:
A jolt is needed to revive a dying body. It might be painful, and it is not a guaranteed success nevertheless. But one need to try. Last edited by Nav-i-gator : 18th January 2017 at 11:25. | ||
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Suffices to say as much as it's fashionable (and justifiable to an extent) to blame a certain political party for everything that's wrong with this country, they're all cut from the same cloth. As much as people would like to believe it, the current party in power didn't come into existence with the current PM in 2014, and every single wrongdoing bandied about politics applies to every single party out there, all previous state & national iterations included. No exceptions. One swallow doesn't make a summer. I've voted NOTA for as long as I can remember, so I can honestly say I've no interest in taking sides with any of them, but let's not go about rewriting history please. Let's leave the politics out of this for all our sakes. | |
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The poverty in India have to be eradicated, and we should stop romanticizing about the poor. I also come from village (Himalayan one, near to China border - one of the most backward places) and have lived most of my early days in UP as well. The way we talk about poor, villages etc is more of a hogwash than reality. Villages are still portrayed as pristine, full of honest people with high moral standards and cities as just opposite. Go and visit any village and live there for some days, you would be surprised by the malaise and prejudices village communities have, and how much closer to cities they are in terms of modern influences (courtesy bollywood). | |
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