[GJ01]

I was able to log in without any issues yesterday. The site seems to be working fine today too

[behaln]

I salute to the brave souls to who lost their lives in this dastardly attack. Very pleased by the humble gesture of our fellow T bhpians and the country men to support our armed forces.
During my time in active services deceased were always supported by the organisation. This is truly overwhelming to see such enormous support for the fellow soldiers. Thank you all for support.

[arif_t01]

A small token of appreciation from my side.

[gopalnt]

I would like to contribute too but my worry is that our contribution is first going to Govt's pocket and from there it is supposed to go to the families in need. Will our contribution go to them is my question as there are several officials involved in between. Is there a possibility that we can make direct contribution to the families through known sources? I am not trying to play spoilsport but my only concern is those families should get ALL the money and not some people pocketing % out of it. Saying this from my previous experience.

BTW, I have contributed too. But I want to contribute more and that is where I have the above concern.

[Nayan]

Originally Posted by Thilak29

The way I see it is, while there are Indian Armed Forces (4 wings, including coast guard), the others and especially CRPF is not on par with armed forces in getting benefits. These units are mere (not belittling) armed police forces but work in a similar situation as that of the army in most cases. There is a huge disparity in the monetary benefits these central armed police forces get in comparison to armed forces.

The main difference between our regular armed forces (Army, Navy and Air Force) and all other paramilitary forces is regular armed forces are under Defense ministry while paramilitary forces are under Home ministry. For a layman, this may not appear a very big difference. But it matters a lot as far as the lower ranks in forces are concerned.

The Indian Army, Navy and Air Force have a great legacy of British armed forces. All supporting units (for example, medical treatment of serving soldiers as well as retired soldiers and their families) are well established. There are separate dedicated units to take care of veterans and they are controlled by serving army officers. Their postings and deployment of are well planned and organized. This is in contrast to the paramilitary forces, controlled by Home Ministry. There the bureaucrats rule. They have scant regard for these soldiers working on the field. Paramilitary personnel spend most of their service tenure in field, away from family. If a soldier gets injured, he is referred to nearby govt hospital, unlike army personnel. If any of you visit such a govt hospital, you will come to know the pathetic treatment they get. This is the worst thing to experience for the injured soldier as well as his colleagues, downing their morale. There is no one to look after the retired paramilitary forces and their families. It is really a sorry state of affairs for them.
I am not saying that all serving and retired army, navy and air force personnel are taken care of well, but definitely, they get better pay and facilities than paramilitary forces.

[dpkbehera]

Information from the Twitter handle of the Indian Army

[.sushilkumar]

Originally Posted by Nayan

This is in contrast to the paramilitary forces, controlled by Home Ministry. There the bureaucrats rule. They have scant regard for these soldiers working on the field. Paramilitary personnel spend most of their service tenure in field, away from family. If a soldier gets injured, he is referred to nearby govt hospital, unlike army personnel. If any of you visit such a govt hospital, you will come to know the pathetic treatment they get. This is the worst thing to experience for the injured soldier as well as his colleagues, downing their morale. There is no one to look after the retired paramilitary forces and their families. It is really a sorry state of affairs for them.

Looks like your info is based on hearsay. Specifically in bold above.

Pls note that all para military forces do have their own hospitals as well. I can confirm at least that BSF Have their own dedicated hospitals within their campuses where soldiers are treated and taken care of. Yes, they may not be as specialised as Army medical corps hospital but nonetheless, they are pretty well stocked to handle any emergency situation. Additionally If needed, they all are covered under CGHS as well during service & post retirement. Other than this they do get post retirement benefits like pension other social security benefits.

Yes, Bureaucracy do have their interference in these para military forces and they do suffer being first line of defence when compared to Army / AF / Navy.

[Iyencar]

The website has been updated to reflect that the families have all received the maximum amount (15 lakhs)! Fantastic news. All future contributions will go to the corpus.

Originally Posted by gopalnt

I am not trying to play spoilsport but my only concern is those families should get ALL the money and not some people pocketing % out of it. Saying this from my previous experience.

You have a valid concern. The website however says that the committee "would decide to disburse the fund equitably to the bravehearts family on need basis." I don't think anyone is taking a cut from this.

[hserus]

Originally Posted by Iyencar

You have a valid concern. The website however says that the committee "would decide to disburse the fund equitably to the bravehearts family on need basis." I don't think anyone is taking a cut from this.

Please let us trust the CRPF to do the right thing on this. There are several issues army and paramilitary people have especially on normalization of rank and pensions, but these are mostly with the bureaucracy rather than with their chain of command, and their own commanding officers are the ones that are operating the fund.

[Iyencar]

Originally Posted by hserus

Please let us trust the CRPF to do the right thing on this.

I believe we are on the same page here. Let us not take this thread further off topic.

[swiftnfurious]

For the transfer I did on MDF website - there is no confirmation via SMS or email. When I try to see the payment history, nothing pulls up either. Is there a way to confirm the payment - the money has been debited from my ICICI account.

[hserus]

Originally Posted by swiftnfurious

For the transfer I did on MDF website - there is no confirmation via SMS or email. When I try to see the payment history, nothing pulls up either. Is there a way to confirm the payment - the money has been debited from my ICICI account.

They may probably send you a certificate by post. For the purposes of your tax return all you need to do is note the NDF's PAN which is mentioned on their site, and the amount you donated, and enter that into your return filing.

The tax officers won't need to see the certificate - they see a debit from your bank account to the NDF, and they pass the tax deduction.

[Udit]

I have made two equal contributions to NDF and Bharat ke veer corpus. Further, I have decided to contribute my one day's salary every month to National Defence Fund and Bharat ke Veer corpus till I retire.

[Ranabegins]

Originally Posted by gopalnt

I would like to contribute too but my worry is that our contribution is first going to Govt's pocket and from there it is supposed to go to the families in need.
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BTW, I have contributed too. But I want to contribute more and that is where I have the above concern.

Any contributions on https://bharatkeveer.gov.in/ goes directly to the person you selected to donate on their page. So, please go ahead and donate there.

[manjubp]

Had issues in last two days to login and complete the transactions. But today it was very smooth, in last hour many of my friends and myself were able to contribute without any issues.
So please go ahead and contribute.