ICC Cricket World Cup, 2019

NPV · 27th June 2019, 15:41

Good toss to win (and bat first) for India. They're now off to a good start against the Windies, but felt Rohit's DRS decision was a bit harsh as the ultraedge wasn't conclusive enough (most likely off the pad than the bat).

Also, India has gone unchanged probably to retain the winning combination against a good team like West Indies, I guess they will try out bench strength against Afghanistan and maybe Sri Lanka, not even Bangladesh probably!

rovingeye · 27th June 2019, 16:36

These days, I have this nervous feeling - the moment India's top 3 are back to the dug out, the opposition is into our tail. Not a good feeling to have.

Santoshbhat · 27th June 2019, 17:09

Some good pressure cricket being played out right now. India's middle order is looking fragile with Kohli still out there! We need Rohit to fire at the top to get a good fast start. Rahul seems to be very ginger with his batting. I agree with most here that Shankar is not no. 4 material. He doesn't seem to have a good backfoot game and hasn't really shown he can dominate the spinners. Shankar and Jadhav - two slots where we need better quality given these are specialist positions. Shankar had a great chance today and was shaping up nicely but got out to an innocuous loosener from Roach.

vinit.merchant · 27th June 2019, 17:25

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Originally Posted by Santoshbhat

Shankar had a great chance today and was shaping up nicely but got out to an innocuous loosener from Roach.

Shankar wasn't exactly shaping up nicely.

His first boundary was a misfield of sort, with the fielder deciding to not slide, but use his feet to stop.
His second boundry, he was put in an awkward position with that bouncer, which he somehow managed to glance it to fine leg.

msdivy · 27th June 2019, 17:31

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Originally Posted by harry10

Also, we should play Pant or DK at 4 rather than Shankar who simply isn't cut out for that position.

As I had noted earlier, the current Indian team lacks No 4. Kohli is known to give a long rope to the player he likes. (Rahul got one during last test series in England). Shankar is a part-time batman, part-time bowler and is the wrong choice for No 4. When he comes at No 4, it seems Shankar is sent as a pinch hitter to improve scoring. In fact, Jadhav has a better batting record than Shankar.

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Originally Posted by msdivy

Selectors have made good of who were available. It lacks the No.4. Nobody in the current line-up or those who missed making the squad can claim to be a solid No. 4. Others numbers have to up their game to fill this gap.

PS: Considering English conditions, my dark horse for No 4 would have been Pujara.

Santoshbhat · 27th June 2019, 17:45

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Originally Posted by vinit.merchant

Shankar wasn't exactly shaping up nicely.

His first boundary was a misfield of sort, with the fielder deciding to not slide, but use his feet to stop.
His second boundry, he was put in an awkward position with that bouncer, which he somehow managed to glance it to fine leg.

He played a nice cover drive for four, then a nice on drive for four. Yes the leg glance wasn't convincing, but he was looking organised and tight in his defense. I would like to see some attacking shots off the back foot. If your can't cut or pull convincingly you will find it tough in non sub continent conditions. He had time to build an innings here. Unfortunately the lack of pace of the Roach loosener foxed him. He played too early, probably expecting more pace from Roach.

rovingeye · 27th June 2019, 18:01

Dhoni's done it again. Bat like a sloth and put pressure on the other batsman and then waste some more deliveries and walk back.

Eddy · 27th June 2019, 18:02

Enough is enough.

Shubhman Gill @ 4
Lapedu Pant @ 5

For the next 10 matches immediately after the WC.

deehunk · 27th June 2019, 18:05

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Originally Posted by NPV

I guess they will try out bench strength against Afghanistan and maybe Sri Lanka, not even Bangladesh probably!

Come on, India played their last match against Afghanistan

vinit.merchant · 27th June 2019, 18:15

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Originally Posted by Eddy

Enough is enough.

Shubhman Gill @ 4
Lapedu Pant @ 5

For the next 10 matches immediately after the WC.

They could even give the other Pandya brother a chance.
Spins well, bats better than the Jadhav's and Shankar's.

Quite disappointed right now with how our batting is turning out. We used to be a Batting heavy side and look how we are performing in last two matches.
There is no proper batsmen number 4 onwards, and it hurting us big time.

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Originally Posted by rovingeye

I guess part of the problem is the unfortunate injury to our other opener, Mr Dhawan. His exit has suddenly opened up a chasm in our batting line up. The future does not look very promising. If we were looking like we had a real chance just a week back, its looking increasingly bleak at the moment.

I feel KL Rahul has filled those shoes alright. Has contributed consistently. The thing with the current Ind line up is such that even if one of the opener fails, the middle order is just not able to provide any kind of support.

vibbs · 27th June 2019, 18:20

Dhoni is a pain to watch batting.
I hope we get to 250 atleast.

rovingeye · 27th June 2019, 18:21

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Originally Posted by vinit.merchant

We used to be a Batting heavy side and look how we are performing in last two matches.
There is no proper batsmen number 4 onwards, and it hurting us big time.

I guess part of the problem is the unfortunate injury to our other opener, Mr Dhawan. His exit has suddenly opened up a chasm in our batting line up. The future does not look very promising. If we were looking like we had a real chance just a week back, its looking increasingly bleak at the moment.

Eddy · 27th June 2019, 18:22

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Originally Posted by vinit.merchant

They could even give the other Pandya brother a chance.
Spins well, bats better than the Jadhav's and Shankar's.

I agree. Krunal is also a decent player at 6. The best part about him is his temperament. Unflappable.

vibbs · 27th June 2019, 19:00

Okay i take my words back. He uped the tempo well today. Problem is on the day he fails, like against afghanistan it does not make for good viewing.

Anyways we have a score that our bowlers can defend. But windies are mavericks.. they may just T off to a blast.

vinit.merchant · 27th June 2019, 19:11

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Originally Posted by vibbs

Okay i take my words back. He uped the tempo well today. Problem is on the day he fails, like against afghanistan it does not make for good viewing.

Anyways we have a score that our bowlers can defend. But windies are mavericks.. they may just T off to a blast.

Actually I wouldn't mind that from MSD, as he is the best keeper one can ask for, and many a times, can be the difference between the two teams.
We all know what he usually tries to do. Tries to bat till the 45th and then speed up from there.
Agreed that recently he's failing more often after reaching the 45th, but not giving away wicket till 45th should not be discounted either.

View Poll Results: ICC Cricket World Cup 2019 winners
Afghanistan	1	0.38%
Australia	20	7.63%
Bangladesh	0	0%
India	136	51.91%
New Zealand	7	2.67%
Pakistan	3	1.15%
South Africa	4	1.53%
Sri Lanka	0	0%
England	74	28.24%
West Indies	17	6.49%
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27th June 2019, 15:41	#331
NPV Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Namma Bengaluru Posts: 7,219 Thanked: 10,258 Times	Re: ICC Cricket World Cup, 2019 Good toss to win (and bat first) for India. They're now off to a good start against the Windies, but felt Rohit's DRS decision was a bit harsh as the ultraedge wasn't conclusive enough (most likely off the pad than the bat). Also, India has gone unchanged probably to retain the winning combination against a good team like West Indies, I guess they will try out bench strength against Afghanistan and maybe Sri Lanka, not even Bangladesh probably! Last edited by NPV : 27th June 2019 at 15:43.
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27th June 2019, 16:36	#332
rovingeye BHPian Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: New Delhi Posts: 349 Thanked: 927 Times	Re: ICC Cricket World Cup, 2019 These days, I have this nervous feeling - the moment India's top 3 are back to the dug out, the opposition is into our tail. Not a good feeling to have.
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27th June 2019, 17:09	#333
Santoshbhat Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2011 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,345 Thanked: 6,852 Times View My Garage	Re: ICC Cricket World Cup, 2019 Some good pressure cricket being played out right now. India's middle order is looking fragile with Kohli still out there! We need Rohit to fire at the top to get a good fast start. Rahul seems to be very ginger with his batting. I agree with most here that Shankar is not no. 4 material. He doesn't seem to have a good backfoot game and hasn't really shown he can dominate the spinners. Shankar and Jadhav - two slots where we need better quality given these are specialist positions. Shankar had a great chance today and was shaping up nicely but got out to an innocuous loosener from Roach. Last edited by Santoshbhat : 27th June 2019 at 17:10.
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27th June 2019, 18:01	#337
rovingeye BHPian Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: New Delhi Posts: 349 Thanked: 927 Times	Re: ICC Cricket World Cup, 2019 Dhoni's done it again. Bat like a sloth and put pressure on the other batsman and then waste some more deliveries and walk back.
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27th June 2019, 18:02	#338
Eddy Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 9,387 Thanked: 13,300 Times	Re: ICC Cricket World Cup, 2019 Enough is enough. Shubhman Gill @ 4 Lapedu Pant @ 5 For the next 10 matches immediately after the WC.
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27th June 2019, 18:20	#341
vibbs Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: SG Posts: 1,125 Thanked: 2,297 Times	Re: ICC Cricket World Cup, 2019 Dhoni is a pain to watch batting. I hope we get to 250 atleast.
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27th June 2019, 19:00	#344
vibbs Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: SG Posts: 1,125 Thanked: 2,297 Times	Re: ICC Cricket World Cup, 2019 Okay i take my words back. He uped the tempo well today. Problem is on the day he fails, like against afghanistan it does not make for good viewing. Anyways we have a score that our bowlers can defend. But windies are mavericks.. they may just T off to a blast.
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