ICC Cricket World Cup, 2019

vibbs · 5th July 2019, 15:30

Like the DLS method in cricket, this calculation for NRR is also flawed.

How could it be possible that batting second will not give Pakistan a chance to improve their NRR beyond New Zealand.

Then a team that has had to chase more times than other is at a serious disadvantage that they cannot improve their runrate with victories the same way batting first does. Puts a lot more emphasis on winning the toss.

Ok that said, I believe this Pakistan team is over rated. Atleast for past 8-10 years our indian team has been way better than Pakistan. Had we played more matches as was the case before the turn of the century, I am more than certain we could have improved our overall record against them and lead the head to head count.

saket77 · 5th July 2019, 15:37

^^ You have a good point there. But now what is surprising is the approach of Pak batters. I just logged on to see some firecrackers but their run rate is more or less test-match type. 31/1 after 9!

Are they aware of any other statistic/ method of qualifying that we aren't? Else this is not making any sense.

rovingeye · 5th July 2019, 15:48

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Originally Posted by saket77

Are they aware of any other statistic/ method of qualifying that we aren't? Else this is not making any sense.

They are so enamoured by the Indian team that they are trying to emulate the Kohli-Rohit innings couple of matches back.

saket77 · 5th July 2019, 15:56

I think they are probably just focusing on winning this match rather than chasing an unrealistic statistic. Though, they should have gone for it.

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Originally Posted by rovingeye

They are so enamoured by the Indian team that they are trying to emulate the Kohli-Rohit innings couple of matches back.

The only difference that this wouldn't dent chances of India or any other team except for themselves.

vibbs · 5th July 2019, 16:15

I think Pakistan misunderstood. Seems they have thought that they need to win after scoring 316 runs :P

hemanth.anand · 5th July 2019, 18:51

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Originally Posted by vibbs

I think Pakistan misunderstood. Seems they have thought that they need to win after scoring 316 runs :P

Maybe Bangladesh also think Pakistan shouldn't win after scoring 316...so trying hard to restrict them below 316

NPV · 5th July 2019, 18:56

Pakistan managed 315/9 and the target for Bangladesh is 316

If Bangladesh can get these runs and win it will be a great end to their campaign in this edition of the world cup. If Pak win, it will be a consolation for pride.

msdivy · 5th July 2019, 20:00

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Originally Posted by vibbs

Like the DLS method in cricket, this calculation for NRR is also flawed.

While DLS may not be the ideal one, it is best among the math methods. It is being used for the last 20 years and it appears fair for both batting & bowling sides.

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Originally Posted by vibbs

I think Pakistan misunderstood. Seems they have thought that they need to win after scoring 316 runs :P

Prophecy, Pakistan have just done that

Latheesh · 5th July 2019, 22:15

Shakib - What a player, a true all rounder. Top class batting and bowling.

TorqueyTechie · 6th July 2019, 16:07

If there is a prize for the worst commentator, top three contenders would be
1. Sanjay Manjrekar
2. Kumar Sangakkara
3. Ramiz Raja
Boring monotone & too analytical commentary. Its like attending a physics lecture.

NPV · 6th July 2019, 17:41

After a good start, India is just allowing the game to drift away and Sri Lanka have recovered well. Angelo Mathews has troubled India in the past with his batting and he does it yet again with good support for Thirimanne who also seems to coming back to form courtesy India!
Fielding has been a few notches down today with dropped catches and missed run out chances. If Sri Lanka get 270+ this won't be an easy chase me thinks.

jayguar · 6th July 2019, 19:16

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Originally Posted by TorqueyTechie

If there is a prize for the worst commentator, top three contenders would be
1. Sanjay Manjrekar
2. Kumar Sangakkara
3. Ramiz Raja
Boring monotone & too analytical commentary. Its like attending a physics lecture.

I see Ganguly fighting it out to be in the top three. Every time, I hear his commentary, he keeps mixing Chahal with Kuldeep and vice versa. That is just one point and there are more with which we can create a list.

Eddy · 6th July 2019, 21:32

Another failure for Rohit Sharma. This is getting ridiculous now.

rovingeye · 6th July 2019, 22:42

Looks like India will be beating NZ in the semis then.

ValarMorghulis · 6th July 2019, 22:48

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Originally Posted by Eddy

Another failure for Rohit Sharma. This is getting ridiculous now.

Seriously!! I just hope he succeeds in getting a 200 in the finals.

View Poll Results: ICC Cricket World Cup 2019 winners
Afghanistan	1	0.38%
Australia	20	7.63%
Bangladesh	0	0%
India	136	51.91%
New Zealand	7	2.67%
Pakistan	3	1.15%
South Africa	4	1.53%
Sri Lanka	0	0%
England	74	28.24%
West Indies	17	6.49%
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5th July 2019, 15:30	#631
vibbs Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: SG Posts: 1,125 Thanked: 2,297 Times	Re: ICC Cricket World Cup, 2019 Like the DLS method in cricket, this calculation for NRR is also flawed. How could it be possible that batting second will not give Pakistan a chance to improve their NRR beyond New Zealand. Then a team that has had to chase more times than other is at a serious disadvantage that they cannot improve their runrate with victories the same way batting first does. Puts a lot more emphasis on winning the toss. Ok that said, I believe this Pakistan team is over rated. Atleast for past 8-10 years our indian team has been way better than Pakistan. Had we played more matches as was the case before the turn of the century, I am more than certain we could have improved our overall record against them and lead the head to head count.
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5th July 2019, 15:37	#632
saket77 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Ranchi Posts: 4,393 Thanked: 12,006 Times	Re: ICC Cricket World Cup, 2019 ^^ You have a good point there. But now what is surprising is the approach of Pak batters. I just logged on to see some firecrackers but their run rate is more or less test-match type. 31/1 after 9! Are they aware of any other statistic/ method of qualifying that we aren't? Else this is not making any sense. Last edited by saket77 : 5th July 2019 at 15:38.
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5th July 2019, 16:15	#635
vibbs Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: SG Posts: 1,125 Thanked: 2,297 Times	Re: ICC Cricket World Cup, 2019 I think Pakistan misunderstood. Seems they have thought that they need to win after scoring 316 runs :P
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5th July 2019, 18:56	#637
NPV Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Namma Bengaluru Posts: 7,220 Thanked: 10,262 Times	Re: ICC Cricket World Cup, 2019 Pakistan managed 315/9 and the target for Bangladesh is 316 If Bangladesh can get these runs and win it will be a great end to their campaign in this edition of the world cup. If Pak win, it will be a consolation for pride.
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5th July 2019, 22:15	#639
Latheesh Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: CNN/BLR Posts: 4,243 Thanked: 10,088 Times	Re: ICC Cricket World Cup, 2019 Shakib - What a player, a true all rounder. Top class batting and bowling.
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6th July 2019, 16:07	#640
TorqueyTechie Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 1,104 Thanked: 2,322 Times	Re: ICC Cricket World Cup, 2019 If there is a prize for the worst commentator, top three contenders would be 1. Sanjay Manjrekar 2. Kumar Sangakkara 3. Ramiz Raja Boring monotone & too analytical commentary. Its like attending a physics lecture.
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6th July 2019, 17:41	#641
NPV Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Namma Bengaluru Posts: 7,220 Thanked: 10,262 Times	Re: The Cricket Thread After a good start, India is just allowing the game to drift away and Sri Lanka have recovered well. Angelo Mathews has troubled India in the past with his batting and he does it yet again with good support for Thirimanne who also seems to coming back to form courtesy India! Fielding has been a few notches down today with dropped catches and missed run out chances. If Sri Lanka get 270+ this won't be an easy chase me thinks.
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6th July 2019, 21:32	#643
Eddy Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 9,387 Thanked: 13,301 Times	Re: ICC Cricket World Cup, 2019 Another failure for Rohit Sharma. This is getting ridiculous now.
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6th July 2019, 22:42	#644
rovingeye BHPian Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: New Delhi Posts: 349 Thanked: 927 Times	Re: ICC Cricket World Cup, 2019 Looks like India will be beating NZ in the semis then.
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