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Old 12th May 2020, 11:25   #2326
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Found this pretty informative. In the last 5 minutes, Shekhar Gupta also presents the age-wise hospitalization and death data from NYC; Could be an eye-opener for many even in this educated forum.

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Old 12th May 2020, 13:41   #2327
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China to test ENTIRE POPULATION of Wuhan for Covid-19 after disease reemerges.

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Chinese authorities plan to test all of Wuhan’s 11 million residents for Covid-19 in a little over a week. After more than a month without newly-recorded cases, the disease has suddenly reappeared in the city.
All districts in the city were ordered to submit a plan on how they will conduct testing of all residents in their areas within 10 days, local media reported, citing a document from the authorities. The officials were told to prioritize the testing of vulnerable groups and places like residential compounds.

The measure was announced as a response to the six new locally-transmitted cases that were recorded in Wuhan on Sunday and Monday, after no infections were registered for 35 consecutive days in the central Hubei Province, where Wuhan is the capital. All six new patients were living in the same compound.

Wuhan was the original epicenter of the Covid-19 outbreak, and in late January, it became the first city to be placed under lockdown as the infection continued to spread. Similar restrictions were enacted in several other major cities in Hubei.
11 million tests in 10 days .Is it practically possible ?

https://www.rt.com/news/488416-wuhan...testing-china/
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Old 12th May 2020, 13:54   #2328
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China to test ENTIRE POPULATION of Wuhan for Covid-19 after disease reemerges.
11 million tests in 10 days .Is it practically possible ?
That is precisely why they are doing it. With their kits being reported as faulty all over the world and with them facing a overall backlash for falsifying data, they want to show to the world that they " Care". Probably , they are after a dud world record or something. Whats the use now?.

On your question: Sure, why not?. Call up every man in Peoples liberation army and punch everyone's nose and mouth with a faulty swab kit. Why, it can be done in 2 days if they want to do it. Havn't you seen their mass drills and dances at opening of events?.
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Old 12th May 2020, 14:19   #2329
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One of the best articles on to-do/not-to-do suggestions considering the state we are currently. Especially relevant as some of us will be venturing out of our homes more regularly - work or other tasks related. In a nutshell, WFH as much and wherever possible folks!

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Indoor spaces, with limited air exchange or recycled air and lots of people, are concerning from a transmission standpoint. Social distancing guidelines don't hold in indoor spaces where you spend a lot of time, as people on the opposite side of the room were infected.

The principle is viral exposure over an extended period of time. Social distancing rules are really to protect you with brief exposures or outdoor exposures. The effects of sunlight, heat, and humidity on viral survival, all serve to minimize the risk to everyone when outside.

When assessing the risk of infection (via respiration) at the grocery store or mall, you need to consider the volume of the air space (very large), the number of people (restricted), how long people are spending in the store (workers - all day; customers - an hour). Remember it is “dose and time” needed for infection.

Basically, as the work closures are loosened, and we start to venture out more, possibly even resuming in-office activities, you need to look at your environment and make judgments. How many people are here, how much airflow is there around me, and how long will I be in this environment. If you are in an open floorplan office, you really need to critically assess the risk (volume, people, and airflow). If you are in a job that requires face-to-face talking or even worse, yelling, you need to assess the risk.

While I have focused on respiratory exposure here, please don't forget surfaces. Those infected respiratory droplets land somewhere. Wash your hands often and stop touching your face!

As we are allowed to move around our communities more freely and be in contact with more people in more places more regularly, the risks to ourselves and our family are significant. Even if you are gung-ho for reopening and resuming business as usual, do your part and wear a mask to reduce what you release into the environment. It will help everyone, including your own business.
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Companies are sealed - Air India staffer tests positive for Covid-19, office sealed for two days

Streets are sealed - Two Chennai scribes test COVID-19 positive, street where they live sealed

Hospitals are sealed - COVID-19 patient dies; Kalyan Nagar hospital sealed

Why is Covid-19 being treated like a terrorist bomb situation and Covid-19 positive cases are handled like a nuclear accident?

Why can't they disinfect the common area, lifts, doors & other contact points for an hour and get on with their work?
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Companies are sealed - Air India staffer tests positive for Covid-19, office sealed for two days

Streets are sealed - Two Chennai scribes test COVID-19 positive, street where they live sealed

Hospitals are sealed - COVID-19 patient dies; Kalyan Nagar hospital sealed

Why is Covid-19 being treated like a terrorist bomb situation and Covid-19 positive cases are handled like a nuclear accident?

Why can't they disinfect the common area, lifts, doors & other contact points for an hour and get on with their work?
People not knowing much about the behaviour of he virus might be the reason. There are new type of symptoms being discovered and also they dont want to take any chances.

I am not sure if disinfecting can be totally fool proof, how do you guarantee 100% coverage of the areas ? We wouldn't be doing any of this for a normal flu virus. But this is different.

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People not knowing much about the behaviour of he virus might be the reason. .
If there is a person that knows how this virus really works, I would love to meet that person.
As it is, there are probably more unknowns than knowns. And it shows very clearly in the way different countries deal very differently with the virus.

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Old 12th May 2020, 17:49   #2333
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11 million tests in 10 days .Is it practically possible ?
I understood the report a bit differently:
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All districts in the city were ordered to submit a plan on how they will conduct testing of all residents in their areas within 10 days
My guess is that the 10 days time is to submit the plan. Of course, China being China, I wouldn't be too surprised if they indeed plan to test everyone in 10 days.
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The most logical article that sheds light on the supposedly different strains of SARS--Cov2 virus claimed by different countries. Worth a read although it doesn't conclude anything and that might be disappointing.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.the...rticle/611239/
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doesn't conclude anything...
The problem with this article is similar to the oft repeated "the law will take its course" when politicians are confronted with video evidence of crime committed by their near and dear.

In my opinion there's enough evidence to suggest that there are at least two strains (or variations) and unless conclusively proven otherwise, I'm happy to continue believing that for the time being. All the "authoritative" sources have been downplaying this crisis, but the reality seems otherwise. It is possible that at the end of this crisis these authoritative institutions will be proven right, but their credibility took a beating when they kept insisting that masks were unnecessary for ordinary citizens. YMMV.
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Old 13th May 2020, 11:46   #2336
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International press hails Kerala in handling the crisis:

Kerala became the first Indian state to report a coronavirus case. Now, four months later, it claims it has flattened the curve.
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Although its has a population of around 36 million -- almost as big as Canada -- it has reported just 519 cases and four deaths
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For comparison, Maharashtra, the worst-affected state in India, has reported more than 23,000 cases, including more than 860 deaths
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Experts say part of Kerala's success is thanks to swift action and learning from past outbreaks. But Kerala also shows how disparate India is -- and how much a person's chances against the virus depend on where in the country they live.
Kerala's response was woman who has been nicknamed "the coronavirus slayer"(Kerala's Minister of Health and Social Welfare, KK Shailaja)

Why Kerala's success isn't a surprise
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In a way, it's no surprise that Kerala has had success against the coronavirus -- it already has some of the best healthcare outcomes in India.
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Kerala has a comparatively high number of public healthcare centers. It also has the lowest maternal mortality rate, one of the lowest infant mortality rates, and the highest life expectancy at birth of any Indian state, at 74.2 for a man.
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It also helped that Kerala's literacy rate is high, with around 94% of the population literate, according to the 2011 Census, compared with the national average of 73%
Not the time to be complacent
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Kerala has the oldest population in India, making its population potentially more vulnerable -- 13% of the population are aged 60 or older, compared with the nationwide average of 8.2%. In Maharashtra, for comparison, 9.1% of the population are 60 or older.
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The real fight is just coming. Once the international travelers come back and the migrants come back and the local economy starts operating again, That is when the next wave will hit Kerala, and if they're caught napping, it will look a lot like Mumbai

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While Kerala has flattened the curve for now, the challenges aren't over. "We are bracing ourselves for the 3rd wave," Till those who are undergoing treatment are fully cured and those under observation complete their quarantine period, we cannot let our guard down one bit


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Old 13th May 2020, 11:56   #2337
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A video which touches on the recent new symptoms being reported from different parts of the world (bumps/lesions on patients feet, something called Kawasaki disease in kids...I thought at least one age group would come out of this relatively unscratched).



For me what's most worrying is that for the past few weeks there are doctors trying to make sense of patients coming with COVID-19 who seem completely normal but have oxygen saturation levels that are extremely low.
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Kerala became the first Indian state to report a coronavirus case. Now, four months later, it claims it has flattened the curve.
Kerala controlled it well till now, but look at the number of flights going to come to the state in next few days under Vande Bharat. Hope they control it well otherwise it is going to be very difficult to manage.
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Kerala controlled it well till now, but look at the number of flights going to come to the state in next few days under Vande Bharat. Hope they control it well otherwise it is going to be very difficult to manage.
This is a bit odd to read … Is there just one flight coming to Mumbai (from Japan)? Or are these just final destinations having some other major airports as layover? I don't think we have a plan for domestic flights and it will be better that we don't have any such plan.
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This is a bit odd to read … Is there just one flight coming to Mumbai (from Japan)? Or are these just final destinations having some other major airports as layover? I don't think we have a plan for domestic flights and it will be better that we don't have any such plan.
We do not see TN (Chennai) in the list. Looks like they are planning it in stages. Top of the list says "including feeder flights".
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