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Old 22nd March 2020, 21:13   #76
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Like many, I too was surprised with the 5 pm applaud - was more like an outpouring of support.

Only downside I see is - internet has been slow not just today, but almost since Friday :(
Not into streaming media, but it's afffecting work a bit.
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While social distancing is necessary and measures to break the chain is the need of the hour, a complete lockdown is going to have more casualities than corona would do.

The unorganised sector and MSMEs, whatever is remaining of the other sectors too will find it hard to recover. Not to mention the daily wage folks who may die of starvation than corona, of course it won't get counted.

Here something that has popped up.

https://m.timesofindia.com/india/cor...w/74760073.cms

As per the article 80% will recover on their own with mild symptoms , ICMR has said this.
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As per the article 80% will recover on their own with mild symptoms , ICMR has said this.
Sorry but what is new in that ? It is already well known that 80% of corona Virus victims will have mild symptoms and very few require hospitalisation.

The mortality rate is also not very high (around 3.5 % AFAIK).

Its only the TV channels and media that are over exaggerating.
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Sorry but what is new in that ? It is already well known that 80% of corona Virus victims will have mild symptoms and very few require hospitalisation.

The mortality rate is also not very high (around 3.5 % AFAIK).

Its only the TV channels and media that are over exaggerating.
What the government is trying to prevent, is a sudden spike in the cases requiring hospitalization so as to not overwhelm the health infra of the country.

They are trying to flatten the curve of cases else doctors will have to start triaging the cases in terms of severity and people with most chances of survival will be given priority and people with co-morbid or critical condition will have the least priority.

If such a scenario arises the mortality will be a lot more than proposed because everyone will not receive the same care. Please see the graph for illustration.

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Just saw a video of a street procession of people banging plates and walking close together, probably over a hundred people. Things like this totally defeat the purpose of the activity, unable to upload the video here.
Edit: Found another procession clip on Facebook

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Today started with a beautiful morning.
I had never heard so many birds chirping at 10 am!


Since morning the birds were having a chill time, till it was 5 pm and everything got haywire for them.

I don't think any bird was used to such 'bartan banging' at this scale!
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Sorry but what is new in that ? It is already well known that 80% of corona Virus victims will have mild symptoms and very few require hospitalisation.

The mortality rate is also not very high (around 3.5 % AFAIK).

Its only the TV channels and media that are over exaggerating.
It's the severity of other 20%, how the medical infrastructure handles it along with political and public will, ultimately determine how we come out on the other side.

Actual mortality rate is of not much value for general public. Should one go into a crowded place thinking they only have 3.5% chance of dying if they get infected, so no need to take it seriously? No, right? One must take required precautions, whatever be the mortality rate.

Real death rates based on confirmed cases are much higher than 3.5%. Obviously there must be mild cases which never got reported and those which recovered without anybody knowing about it. But you need to see what's happening in Italy to see the worst case scenarios. Imagine same thing repeating in few other countries, and then please decide if anybody is over-exaggerating it. If anything, lot of people (including media, world leaders etc) were caught napping.

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Sorry but what is new in that ? It is already well known that 80% of corona Virus victims will have mild symptoms and very few require hospitalisation.

The mortality rate is also not very high (around 3.5 % AFAIK).

Its only the TV channels and media that are over exaggerating.
This thinking is common globally; it is also wrong, being based on not applying one's mind because of intellectual laziness and wanting to stay in denial to carry on business as usual.

The flatten the curve picture is very illuminating for those that study it and THINK. What happens where the spike crosses the peak capacity is a nightmare in ways you don't realise unless you think. With ICU beds already close to full, what happens when these are no longer available to people that will need these for OTHER than virus affliction? For just one example, what happens in India to the hundreds of those that need it DAILY after road accidents - as one example that people on this site can relate to.

Also, with the flooding of capacity with the afflicted, doctors and nurses may start disappearing - either because they are dead, or because they are in 14 days self quarantine, or because they are just too exhausted. Because even the rigorous care they take to prevent infection can still allow the virus to sneak through when the exposure is at the levels that they have to face.

Unfortunately, it is just this kind of lazy thinking that is behind the corona parties, with the young that think they are immortal, guilty of this thinking all over the world. So the rest of us have to think on their behalf for the times when they may be bleeding to death on the road after an accident at a time when the spikes have flooded health care facilities - using the same example that members here will relate to.

This may come across as harsh, but the one consolation you have is that many think like this, even in the educated citizenry.

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One last thing - Nature is fighting the humans in the most devastating way for whatever we have done to Mother Nature. Itís her time and sheís hit the reset button to restore balance and taking back whatís rightfully hers! Itís time we as Humans learn a lesson and start giving space for nature and learn to CO-exist. Itís pretty evident looking at how natureís love is reverting to its glory in most of the cities under lockdown - EX: most of the habitat coming back to Italy, clear skies over China cities and now Indian cities.
Nature is affecting just ONE of its species, ie homo sapiens. The rest, including insects, birds, other mammals, reptiles and microorganisms are just doing fine. In fact some are enjoying it! Time for us to realise our minuscule status and remove all the hubris that comes out of OUR understanding of science and our so-called technological prowess. We were worried about changing the earth's climate. A big ROFL to that.
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If you look at it from a cosmic perspective, all is good. A benign virus is attacking a malignant one in a very targeted way, cleaning up the system so that all other life forms can again exist as they are designed to.

It is only humanity that thinks that humanity will be missed.

But I don't think it is as bad as it could be, because this benign virus is not very efficient seeing how low is the fatality rate. If humanity fails or is crippled, it will have only itself to blame.
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Took a drive around Bombay last night starting 9 PM. The roads were obviously empty, but there was LITERALLY no one on them. On most stretches, it was me alone. On a few, the odd 2-wheeler or 1 more car. That's it.

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Worli:
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Marine Drive was blocked off:
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As was the climb up to Malabar Hills:
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Peddar Road:
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I think this should be done in a manner such that people get time to buy stuff from say, 9am to 1pm and then again close for the rest of the day. Maybe that is on the cards after the success of yesterday.
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I think this should be done in a manner such that people get time to buy stuff from say, 9am to 1pm and then again close for the rest of the day. Maybe that is on the cards after the success of yesterday.

That might actually lead to more crowding in the limited time people allowed to go out and buy stuff.

Better is no restriction on time for essential goods, but restriction on number of people.
Even shops should also take steps to ask only few people to enter shop at any time..
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Fortunately for this generation, there are enough left in India that remember curfews and how they are best administered. And how to cooperate with the authorities to do that in a way that does NOT include being a self appointed curfew enforcer.

I am done with my grocery shopping for the week at 6 am today, as a small modification to my morning run routine, at a place that is 200 metres down the road. I/family do not need to be on the road for the rest of the week, and shall stay present only on line for that time.

I certainly don't need to travel the streets city wide for any reason.
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Took a drive around Bombay last night starting 9 PM. The roads were obviously empty, but there was LITERALLY no one on them. On most stretches, it was me alone. On a few, the odd 2-wheeler or 1 more car. That's it.
What car are you driving? The Kia Carnival or some other Hyundai?
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