Speed governors in taxis, cabbies, lorries etc. Is it a good move?

mclaren1885 · 29th June 2007, 11:58

Karnataka Govt has introduced speed governors to arrest overspeeding taxis, call centre cabs, trucks, lorries, buses (hired by schools) etc. Their aim is to reduce accident rates. Is this a good move?

Also, Govt's call is that no yellow board vehicle can be registered without the use of these speed governors. Last date to comply with this rule is July 1st. All the above mentioned vehicle owners are going on an indefinite strike to oppose the move since its being introduced only in Karnataka and not Rest Of India. Kit costs Rs 15,000 and fines for not running this equipment will be Rs 10,000.

Well the question to begin with is:

1. Is this a good move?
2. Will the speed limits be applicable to highway driving too?

Rtech · 29th June 2007, 12:00

1. What is the speed they will be limited too?
2. What hi-tech governor are they installing that costs Rs.15,000!!! that's way to much!

On the surface, it seems like a good move. However lets get some more details as to how they plan to implement it and see after that.

BTW, speed is relative. They can be equally reckless even at 40kmph.

HellwratH · 29th June 2007, 12:01

I think its a good move, but it can get a bit slow on the highways..within city limits, brilliant move!

Vid6639 · 29th June 2007, 12:01

Well in a way good move but in a way bad. Even with the speed governors you cant really expect these guys to be following lane discipline. So imagine 3 yellow board vehicles in front of you taking up all the lanes all going at 65kmph. How do you plan to pass them? Stay behind till one of them gives way?

It will reduce the average speed of the traffic big time. It's already bad.

mclaren1885 · 29th June 2007, 12:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rtech

1. What is the speed they will be limited too?
2. What hi-tech governor are they installing that costs Rs.15,000!!! that's way to much!

Speed limited to 65kmph. Don't know if this will be applicable on the highways too. News for the moment is just that Govt has authorized several agencies to supply the kit. No further details available at the minute.

planet_rocker · 29th June 2007, 12:12

very good move yaar. i wonder when will WB govt implement this rule in Kolkata and Suburbs?

65KPH max on the highway is good provided they stick to the left lane (not talking about a single lane one). but Rtech's point has some weight.

zakaaaaasss · 29th June 2007, 12:19

I believe this is an excellent step.

Yep the pricing of kit is on the higher side but remember this is Govt. They know aam janta is going to oppose them...so at first they will price heavily and then to satisfy 'aam janta' post agitation, they'll reduce the prices to the actual/affordable level. Janta happy, Govt happy.....

ajitkommini · 29th June 2007, 12:22

Anything that the auto / taxi unions oppose can only be a good thing for us! Hope this makes the outer ring road less of a hazard in the evenings

anonymous · 29th June 2007, 12:31

In fact, this speed governors has been tried by few call centers here in Delhi/NCR, when employees started complaining about the speed, driving style etc of cabs. But it didn't work. Drivers found out the way how to get rid of this. So Govn should not only implement this all over India but they should also keep a close check on these vechicles otherwise its not going to make much difference.

Speedzone · 29th June 2007, 12:32

I completely agree with Vid6639, my suggestion is Govt should think of teaching them to follow the lane discipline and good driving skills and am sure there would be significant redcution in the number of accidents

invincible7 · 29th June 2007, 12:50

With gadgets like these.. playing around with the system isnt that easy... the government should look for systems like these which can not be easily tampered with.

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Sudipto-S-Team · 29th June 2007, 12:54

This will be yet another excuse for the cops to make some money. If the political will is there to stop accidents it can be done without any gadget. Also, I don't think speed alone kills. It is the insensitive and stupid driving that kills. An insensitive driver can kill people even at 40 kmph.

kpzen · 29th June 2007, 12:59

Do the inter state shunting Volvo's also become victims here??

esteem_lover · 29th June 2007, 13:31

Probably a waste of time. Instead, commercial vehicle license applicants can be given a 10 day course on defensive driving techniques & the importance of road sense & safety hammered into their thick skulls.

MCL, i think you need to change the poll to a single option poll. i just voted for all three.

rks · 29th June 2007, 13:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by mclaren1885

Karnataka Govt has introduced speed governors to arrest overspeeding taxis, call centre cabs, trucks, lorries, buses (hired by schools) etc. Their aim is to reduce accident rates. Is this a good move?

I think 65 kmph limit is fine for cities, but bad for highways. I definitely would not take a taxi or bus, say, from Bangalore to Mysore, if the speed limiters are in place. I would prefer an express train doing 100+ kmph.

I agree with the point made by vid6639. Slowing down the traffic is undesirable from several points of view. And on highways I don't think optimum fuel economy is attained at 65 kmph; probably 80-90 would be better. Plus my recollection is that at least Indicas require higher speeds than 65 kmph to hit fifth gear.

View Poll Results: Is it a good move by the Govt to introduce speed governors?
Yes, its about time they did this. Brilliant move.	31	81.58%
No, its just a waste of time.	5	13.16%
65kmph speed limit can be fatal if followed on highways.	9	23.68%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 38. You may not vote on this poll

29th June 2007, 11:58	#1
mclaren1885 BANNED Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bangalore (the city of modded cars) !! Posts: 4,820 Thanked: 45 Times View My Garage Infractions: 0/1 (10)	Speed governors in taxis, cabbies, lorries etc. Is it a good move? Karnataka Govt has introduced speed governors to arrest overspeeding taxis, call centre cabs, trucks, lorries, buses (hired by schools) etc. Their aim is to reduce accident rates. Is this a good move? Also, Govt's call is that no yellow board vehicle can be registered without the use of these speed governors. Last date to comply with this rule is July 1st. All the above mentioned vehicle owners are going on an indefinite strike to oppose the move since its being introduced only in Karnataka and not Rest Of India. Kit costs Rs 15,000 and fines for not running this equipment will be Rs 10,000. Well the question to begin with is: 1. Is this a good move? 2. Will the speed limits be applicable to highway driving too?
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29th June 2007, 12:00	#2
Rtech Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,770 Thanked: 359 Times View My Garage	1. What is the speed they will be limited too? 2. What hi-tech governor are they installing that costs Rs.15,000!!! that's way to much! On the surface, it seems like a good move. However lets get some more details as to how they plan to implement it and see after that. BTW, speed is relative. They can be equally reckless even at 40kmph. Last edited by Rtech : 29th June 2007 at 12:01.
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29th June 2007, 12:01	#3
HellwratH BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 115 Thanked: 57 Times	I think its a good move, but it can get a bit slow on the highways..within city limits, brilliant move!
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29th June 2007, 12:01	#4
Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,727 Thanked: 43,457 Times View My Garage	Well in a way good move but in a way bad. Even with the speed governors you cant really expect these guys to be following lane discipline. So imagine 3 yellow board vehicles in front of you taking up all the lanes all going at 65kmph. How do you plan to pass them? Stay behind till one of them gives way? It will reduce the average speed of the traffic big time. It's already bad.
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29th June 2007, 12:12	#6
planet_rocker Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bong-land Posts: 2,323 Thanked: 426 Times	very good move yaar. i wonder when will WB govt implement this rule in Kolkata and Suburbs? 65KPH max on the highway is good provided they stick to the left lane (not talking about a single lane one). but Rtech's point has some weight.
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29th June 2007, 12:19	#7
zakaaaaasss BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Augsburg - Pune Posts: 222 Thanked: 5 Times View My Garage	I believe this is an excellent step. Yep the pricing of kit is on the higher side but remember this is Govt. They know aam janta is going to oppose them...so at first they will price heavily and then to satisfy 'aam janta' post agitation, they'll reduce the prices to the actual/affordable level. Janta happy, Govt happy.....
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29th June 2007, 12:22	#8
ajitkommini BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 490 Thanked: 124 Times	Anything that the auto / taxi unions oppose can only be a good thing for us! Hope this makes the outer ring road less of a hazard in the evenings
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29th June 2007, 12:31	#9
anonymous BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NCR Posts: 565 Thanked: 25 Times	In fact, this speed governors has been tried by few call centers here in Delhi/NCR, when employees started complaining about the speed, driving style etc of cabs. But it didn't work. Drivers found out the way how to get rid of this. So Govn should not only implement this all over India but they should also keep a close check on these vechicles otherwise its not going to make much difference.
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29th June 2007, 12:32	#10
Speedzone Newbie Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 19 Thanked: 0 Times	I completely agree with Vid6639, my suggestion is Govt should think of teaching them to follow the lane discipline and good driving skills and am sure there would be significant redcution in the number of accidents
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29th June 2007, 12:50	#11
invincible7 BHPian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Delhi NCR Posts: 665 Thanked: 173 Times	With gadgets like these.. playing around with the system isnt that easy... the government should look for systems like these which can not be easily tampered with. [FONT=Helv][SIZE=2]Check this link... Pricol:: Global Supplier of automotive products, automobile components, auto instruments and auto accessories - India. - What's New? ROAD SPEED LIMITOR Function: Pricol's RSL is a Micro-controller based Electronic device that constantly monitors the speed of the vehicle and governs the speed with in the set speed limit. Benefits To Fleet Owners Improves Fuel Economy Increases Engine Life Reduces Operating & Maintenance Cost Assures return on investment within 6 months Benefits To Drivers Reduces stress Fatigue free driving Better control over the vehicle speed Increases driving comfort Benefits To Passengers Enhances safety on road Assures comfort and confidence Sailent Features Indigenous micro-controller based design Constant monitoring and governing of speed Double acting motor enabling both push and pull modes of operation Get home speed in case of any tampering or failure Provision for checking the speed setting at any instant Ease of installation Smooth and accurate operation Technical Data: Operating Voltage : 11 V to 32V DC Operating Current : 1 amps max. Operating Temperature : -10°C to 55°C Signal Input : Speed Sensor No. of Pulses per Revolution : 8 Pulses Duty Cycle of signal : 40% to 50% of total time period Specifications are subject to change. Vehicle Fitment: Can be fitted in all CVs __________________________________________________ ________________________________ VEHICLE MONITORING SYSTEM Function: Pricol's Vehicle Monitoring System is an advanced on - board computer system that provides essential vehicle information for better fleet control translating into increased profitability. Reports Generated: Trip sheet Over speeding report Stoppage report Heavy acceleration report Heavy braking report Last minute graph Maintenance schedules Service history Salient Features: State-of-the-art Micro-controller based technology No Driver Input Required Generation of Meaningful Reports Retention of Data Recorded even if supply is disconnected Capacity to record a maximum of 25 Days continuous trip Tamper Proof, Water Proof & Shock Proof Easy to Install Technical Specification: Operating Voltage : 11 V to 28V DC Current Consumption : 200 mA max Recording Interval : 10 ± 1 Seconds Input Signal : Speed Sensor No. of Pulses per Revolution : 8 Pulses Maximum Recording Capacity : 25 Days trip Minimum System Requirement: Personal Computer with Speed : 200 MHz and above Memory : 32 MB RAM Hard Disk Capacity : 1 GB Platform : .Windows 95/98/2000 Floppy Drive / CD Drive Specifications are subject to change. Vehicle Fitment: Can be fitted in all HCVs, MCVs & LCVs. [/SIZE][/FONT]
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29th June 2007, 12:54	#12
Sudipto-S-Team Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Kolkata Posts: 1,320 Thanked: 290 Times View My Garage	This will be yet another excuse for the cops to make some money. If the political will is there to stop accidents it can be done without any gadget. Also, I don't think speed alone kills. It is the insensitive and stupid driving that kills. An insensitive driver can kill people even at 40 kmph.
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29th June 2007, 12:59	#13
kpzen Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Faridabad Posts: 5,610 Thanked: 1,876 Times View My Garage	Do the inter state shunting Volvo's also become victims here??
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29th June 2007, 13:31	#14
esteem_lover Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Madras/Py Posts: 7,556 Thanked: 502 Times View My Garage	Probably a waste of time. Instead, commercial vehicle license applicants can be given a 10 day course on defensive driving techniques & the importance of road sense & safety hammered into their thick skulls. MCL, i think you need to change the poll to a single option poll. i just voted for all three. Last edited by esteem_lover : 29th June 2007 at 13:32.
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