[simply_sunny001]

Originally Posted by khaadu75

.. FINALLY someone agrees to the funda and thats only coz sunny must be having friends who live in the real mountains .

No Problem Khaadu,

but any good driver in hills will surely vouch for this,take my word.

and it aint easy driving in hills cos lot of concentration is needed and once you got the basics right and then it turns out to be fun

[Surprise]

Khaadu, all these days I have been hearing "wear seat belts, thats important" and few times I had seen how effective these seats belts were in holding you.

Hence "don't wear seat belt on hills" is bit hard to digest. Having said that, I dont have any concrete proof or reasons that it has to be in place even on hills. Hence please do throw more light on to this, so that many will get benefited.

Originally Posted by khaadu75

.. FINALLY someone agrees to the funda and thats only coz sunny must be having friends who live in the real mountains .

This is like a thread a while ago where I said driving in the hills is safer & quicker at night and most of the ppl here thought I was being stupid and naive

Cheers

khaadu, i agree with you that driving in the hills is safer at night provided there is no fog. but the seatbelts.....

[emkay456]

I think Swift's crashworthiness is proven from the accident mentioned in the post. I happened to see a Swift which was banged at 90 degrees to its length on the left side, lying in from of the Lodhi Colony Police Station 2 days back ( i was on a visit to Delhi).
The red Swift chassis seems to have withstood the hammering from some heavy vehicle but the doors and the B pillar had caved inside about 6 inches. The car was on all four wheels with no visible damage to the engine.

[trrk]

Hi jkdas

> Any idea where he was practicing? And where did this happen exactly?

Dr K P Rajendran ENT Specialist, retired from Alleppey Medical College and working at Cochin Cooperative Medical College. Native of Quilon.

Around the prince Hotel Area in Alleppey-Sherthallai Road.

[merve_extreme]

Originally Posted by khaadu75

Not necessary to get it removed .... do what I do when in the hills -- like i mentioned above , I never wear seat belts when in the hills !!! Before getting into the seat simple clip the seat belt into its slot and the light wil stay off . After that u sit normally .... the seat belt is between your back and the seat and the light stays of

Never ever do that with a vehicle that has airbags.In a collision that triggers the airbag it will break your neck.

[vivekiny2k]

Originally Posted by rippergeo

jumping out of a car might work if its doing 20kmph max. any faster, and you are in trouble. you would need superhuman reflexes and decision making to find and land in a soft spot while the car is swerving and bouncing out of control.

I have heard of hundreds of stories where driver saved his life by jumping out when the vehicle ended up in a ditch etc. I don't think you need superhuman reflexes to decide jumping out when you see you car is headed for a ditch. we are not talking about getting head on on a highway.

[khaadu75]

Originally Posted by merve_extreme

Never ever do that with a vehicle that has airbags.In a collision that triggers the airbag it will break your neck.

I didn't know that .... Thanx for the tip !! Will need to remember this when I get meself a car with airbags .

[nischalreddy]

may god bless the soul of doc. being doc myself i know how pre occupied docs are. should take care to wear seat belts. i know of another frind of mine who died in a car accident last year near udupi, driving home after surgery.

Originally Posted by vivekiny2k

I have heard of hundreds of stories where driver saved his life by jumping out when the vehicle ended up in a ditch etc. I don't think you need superhuman reflexes to decide jumping out when you see you car is headed for a ditch. we are not talking about getting head on on a highway.

if you have time to open the door and jump out after decision making and planning to hit the softest spot, you have time to use your right foot on the brake and 2 hands on the steering to stop the crash.

having time to jump out, but not having time to brake and steer, thats a good one.

of course, if the car is travelling so fast that it is spinning out of control, would you risk jumping out, or would you risk staying in. thats the question that we are trying to answer here.

i would like to stay in, khaadu would like to jump out.

the only situation i'd jump out is when i'm on an icy incline, and the car /jeep is sliding without traction towards the edge at a speed of 2-5kmph.
even then, i'd be terrified that the car is going to roll over me.

in a split second skid on tarred ghat roads, or during an extreme evasive maneuver to get away from a bus driver who's taking the racing line, if you lose control, you are done, there is no time to jump. save your car the best you can, and it will save you in return if you let it.

buckle up.

[vivekiny2k]

Originally Posted by rippergeo

having time to jump out, but not having time to brake and steer, thats a good one.

it's not just about time, juts like you mentioned the icy condition, there are many cases when even if you have time, you can't stop the crash.

EDIT: you really need a cowboy attitude to jump and escape, but it does work at times.

[khaadu75]

Originally Posted by rippergeo

i would like to stay in, khaadu would like to jump out.

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U got my post all wrong ..... I didn't say Id prefer to jump out EVER !!! Pls read properly before interpreting things .

[vivekiny2k]

Originally Posted by khaadu75

U got my post all wrong ..... I didn't say Id prefer to jump out EVER !!! Pls read properly before interpreting things .

sorry khaadu, for hijacking your POV

Originally Posted by khaadu75

U got my post all wrong ..... I didn't say Id prefer to jump out EVER !!! Pls read properly before interpreting things .

Sorry,i got the names wrong khaadu. I meant vivek. but seriously, why would you want to be thrown out if you dont want to even jump out?

[esteem_lover]

Cheating the seat belt warning system just so that you can drive without buckling up seems to be a disgusting solution to a safety feature that has been made into a problem.