[harry10]

Rohit has abysmal stats in last few years as a batsman in IPL. But, MI didn't sack him as a player or traded him. They went to Hardik with the offer and Hardik insisted to be Captain if he will come back to MI. The same MI whom he bad mouthed and praised their biggest rivals CSk when he moved to GT.

Lets dissect the turn of events-

1. In 2015 MI scouts bring Hardik into Indian team. He isn't an instant success but Rohit as Captain and team management at that time shows faith and persist with him. Eventually he becomes Indias and Ipls premier all rounder.

2. After years of playing under Rohit now Hardik asks for more money from MI management and captaincy. They refuse. So he moves to new franchise GT who shows full faith in him, makes him Captain. With Nehra JI as an able coach they both won GT an IPL trophy and go to the finals in 2nd year as well.

3. Of course GT fans love him now and MI fans have no issues with him until he bad mouthes about MI stating they only buy legends and CSk creates legends. Conveniently forgetting it's the MI franchise which made him.

4. Now he is back at MI. As per all indications Rohit had no idea about this back hand deal going on between management and Hardik. He was sacked. This made MI fans really angry as Rohit got them 5 IPL trophies and inspite of bad form he is a loved by most MI fans.

5. Hardik also pissed off GT fans who gave him love and trust. In the end hardik comes out as a power and money hungry cricketer for all fans who has no loyalty to anyone. Look at Dhoni, will he ever leave CSk for more money or a Kohli who inspite of losing every Year still stays loyal to RCB. That's why they are loved by fans.

6. MI management have offended SKY and Bumrah too who were next in line for captaincy. This is a huge mess they have created for themselves and to top it they have lost all matches so far.

Hardik and MI management brought it on themselves. Sanju is a shameless commentator who just knows to please his masters. I don't see such behaviour from someone like Shastri who understands how important fans are for cricket. I fully support this booing of Hardik. He and management can still rectify and make things normal by showing some concern about fans rather than giving their attitude and arrogance.

On a side note I don't see anyone booing hardik when he plays for India in World cup. This is ipl franchise cricket where clubs rule.

RCB lost again today. Don't see them making playoffs with this team composition.

[Bhokal]

Why are we getting invested emotionally in IPL? IPL is just a money making (nothing wrong in that) business league.

Why is Hardik being blamed for this controversy? He has done nothing wrong. If he got a better deal from MI, he would be foolish to not accept it.

[Pythonic]

Am I the only one that thinks they should just remove the review for wides and noballs or allow it only in the final over or something. Teams unnecessarily waste time and take it just because they could. Also the number of reviews must be reduced to 1 per team per inning. It’s just 20 overs after all.

[inner_roadster]

Can Mayank Yadav become the next star, or has it been overhyped? To be fair, allow him some time; otherwise, he may begin to feel pressured and fade away from his skill.
Similarly, Umran Malik experienced this a few years ago.

[harry10]

Originally Posted by Pythonic

Am I the only one that thinks they should just remove the review for wides and noballs or allow it only in the final over or something. Teams unnecessarily waste time and take it just because they could. Also the number of reviews must be reduced to 1 per team per inning. It’s just 20 overs after all.

I feel it's a good addition. Teams have 2 reviews as usual. Now they have option to use them on wides or a dubious out decision. In the end it's 2 reviews only and using it judiciously remains a teams prerogative. Adds little bit more to drama especially at the end. And lets be honest. On field umpires are ridiculous when it comes to wides on bouncers. So many times it's clearly over the head and they just give 1 bouncer.

Originally Posted by inner_roadster

Can Mayank Yadav become the next star, or has it been overhyped? To be fair, allow him some time; otherwise, he may begin to feel pressured and fade away from his skill.
Similarly, Imran Mallik experienced this a few years ago.

The critical difference between Mayank and Umran is their Accuracy. Umran was never accurate and still isn't after spending decent time in IPL circuit. Mayank keeps his pace and his Accuracy all the time. Plus his on body bouncers are really tough to play due to his pace.

My major concern is if he can maintain his fitness. History has shown Indian set up doesn't treat high pace bowlers well. They get injured and subsequently drop pace. If he maintains his on going wicket taking ability he should be in the squad for world cup. Cos honestly except for Bumrah we don't have anyone else who can shake the opposition.

[am1m]

Already a couple of positives from this IPL (to me, 'IPL positives' means anything that makes the national team better).

Pant seems to be getting back all right, honestly I was afraid he wouldn't be the player he used to be. Very tough to get back after an accident like that a such a long layoff. But great to see him back. (I guess this means the end of Ishan in the national team though.)

And great going by Mayank Yadav. Very early days, of course, but an additional pacer is always welcome!

[Sensible_Speed]

The whole IPL has become a cash-grabbing sham. Tickets sell for as high as 50,000 for an RCB match, where, the most expensive WC stub was 22,000 here. Everyone's in it to make a big buck, including the board. BCCI and in extension the politician that controls it make obscene sums from it each year. People need to calm down a bit and reclaim cricket from the business. Franchise frenzy is great and all that, but fans are what fund these enterprises. The owners and organizers should never forget that.

[dhruvagarwal]

Originally Posted by harry10

They went to Hardik with the offer and Hardik insisted to be Captain if he will come back to MI.

Originally Posted by harry10

2. After years of playing under Rohit now Hardik asks for more money from MI management and captaincy. They refuse. So he moves to new franchise GT who shows full faith in him, makes him Captain.

Originally Posted by harry10

4. As per all indications Rohit had no idea about this back hand deal going on between management and Hardik. He was sacked.

Originally Posted by harry10

6. MI management have offended SKY and Bumrah too who were next in line for captaincy.

Sir, with due respect, what you're claiming to be 'turn of events' is all hearsay. It only leads to further speculation and adds no value, which is not befitting on any thread on Team-BHP.

[DasAuto1985]

As a football fan, i dont understand the brouhaha around the booing. Once they start winning, the booing would stop. The problem is Indian cricketers have been treated as gods, above reprimand.

[ranjitnair77]

Hardik Pandya, the player

Hardik is a unique white ball player in India and, if fit, is one of the first names on a team sheet. Simply because he is the closest to being a perfect seam bowling all rounder for us. He can make the side with his batting or as a third seamer alone. One part of his game that has regressed in the last two seasons, however, is his lower order power hitting. He needs to get that back. The only other person who could be anywhere in his vicinity is Shivam Dube. However Dube’s batting against pace and his seam bowling is not as incisive as Hardik. Maybe Deepak Chahar is another name if we wish to stretch things but he is far from ready.

Let’s also consider GT’s IPL win in 2022 and losing the final by a whisker in 2023. If you look at that team, the batting is not as formidable as the rest of the others. The bowling is decent so they definitely overachieved. While some of the credit must rightfully go to Nehra and the backroom staff, let’s also remember that, in cricket, unlike football, the captain still has a big role to play. It’s petty for folks to dismiss Hardik’s contribution to GT’s success. A lot of team mates have publicly spoken about Hardik’s equanimity, man-management and relaxed dressing room culture which was pivotal to their performance.

Liking a player is usually personal and perhaps Hardik’s image works against him. He doesn’t look or act as our image of a nice guy cricketer (Humble, discreet, soft spoken). However we cannot forget that he is a tremendous player (albeit with fitness issues) and a more than decent captain. It’s hard to name another player as multi-skilled as him in the India setup.


The Trade from GT to MI

In a franchise league, transfers are commonplace. It’s perfectly acceptable for a player to move from one team to another as long as everyone is on board. Mumbai had good reasons to trade in Hardik. Their auction performance was not stellar. They got hit with squad injuries. The team performance had regressed and they needed leadership change. If you examine the squad, there were no future captains in there. Going for a skilful, IPL winning captain who can potentially lead their squad for 5 years made perfect sense.

The mechanics of the trade was deeply problematic. There is an undisclosed transfer fee (rumoured to be in the 100cr+ range) paid by MI to GT which is split 50/50 with Hardik and GT. This formally allows teams to exceed their salary caps. This means that teams with deeper pockets can gain an unfair advantage. That doesn’t sit right with me. The league needs to be transparent about this (declare the size of the trade) or we will continue to see such shenanigans in the future.

We’ve also seen quid-pro-quo situations of a different kind in the past. For instance M.S. Dhoni was a VP in India Cements (the owner of CSK) so he was probably getting paid money over and above his IPL commitments, exceeding salary caps. It is naive to think that the IPL is ‘fair’. However this transfer business has just added an additional layer of opaqueness to things. It’s also not hard to imagine that there was a larger agreement (beyond transfer fee) between CVC Capital Partners (Owners of GT) and Reliance. So perhaps Hardik and the fans are just smaller pawns in a larger game.


Fan Fury

The fans are absolutely justified in venting their anger. This whole business of silencing their voice at the Wankhede is childish. Manjrekar’s latest buffoonery is meme worthy. The MI team owners need to have thicker skin as public memory tends to be fickle. Hardik’s just a couple of wins and clutch performances away from winning the fans back. They need to ride this out with grace and a smile on their face.

[Aakash118]

Originally Posted by ranjitnair77

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Hardik is a unique white ball player in India and, if fit, is one of the first names on a team sheet. Simply because he is the closest to being a perfect seam bowling all rounder for us. He can make the side with his batting or as a third seamer alone.

Spot on analysis. There is simply no better seam all rounder in the country. And players can’t be created by spending money in 1 or 2 years (as someone said above). The whole mistake is of MI management. I mean if they wanted a change in the captaincy, they should had asked Rohit to himself pass it to SKY or Bumrah or even a youngster like Tilak. This could be a much more swift transition. And regarding HP, that trade should had never happened especially after HP’s demand for captaincy. They could invest that money in some other big overseas player (Rachin or Head maybe). Heck, even Steve Smith could be a better buy than HP (I’m not sure if he was available or not in auction). At the end of the day I just hope that all this drama doesn’t have a negative effect on India’s premier all rounder in upcoming WC.

[harry10]

Originally Posted by dhruvagarwal

Sir, with due respect, what you're claiming to be 'turn of events' is all hearsay. It only leads to further speculation and adds no value, which is not befitting on any thread on Team-BHP.

What I have stated is what's been reported by everyone everywhere. And even if it wasn't any logical person can derive these conclusions by the turn of events.

Let me state the points again which you have highlighted.-

1. Retention time Hardik wanted more money and Captaincy which was refused so he moved to GT.

2. Hardik had put in the clause that he will come back to MI if he is made Captain when MI management approached him. You can search for this info. And it's logical too. Why will he give up GT captaincy and come back to MI just as a player.

3. Bumrah is the most important player in MI. Has Captained for India. SKY is no.1 t20 player in the world. It's obvious they will expect captaincy once Rohit leaves it. Hence they will be disappointed with the turn of events when a player which has bad mouthed the team is brought in and made Captain over them. Natural human nature.

4. Rohit's wife Ritiika all but confirmed in her posts that Rohit wasn't kept in loop about all these changes. You can search it if you want.

Anyways, All these things are in open and it's not like the MI owners will come themselves to give proof. In fact MI management had a golden chance in first press conference to clarify and make things right but they completely ignored the questions journalists asked.

[PPS]

Originally Posted by harry10

After years of playing under Rohit now Hardik asks for more money from MI management and captaincy. They refuse. So he moves to new franchise GT who shows full faith in him, makes him Captain.In the end hardik comes out as a power and money hungry cricketer for all fans who has no loyalty to anyone.

I see nothing wrong with the money part! Hardik enjoys a monopoly in India as the only seam bowling All-rounder in the country (please don't give example of Dubey). And he's making best use of the meagre resources India has in this category. Its another thing that his hitting skills have diminished compared to earlier. If he felt he could earn more in some other franchisee, MI did the right thing back then to let him go else he'd have been unhappy at MI.

3. Of course GT fans love him now and MI fans have no issues with him until he bad mouthes about MI stating they only buy legends and CSk creates legends. Conveniently forgetting it's the MI franchise which made him.

Not sure when this happened.

Look at Dhoni, will he ever leave CSk for more money or a Kohli who inspite of losing every Year still stays loyal to RCB. That's why they are loved by fans.

Dhoni & Virat are certified legends! Hardik is not even close.

[Chisels121]

So to sum it all,
HP as MI captain ❌
HP as laptop ✅


(Obviously a joke)

[Bhargav7]

Originally Posted by Aakash118

The whole mistake is of MI management.

This obviously is a blunder from MI Management. One of the main ingredient for winning trophies is the team unity, which seems to be lost at present.

That said, you cannot clap with one hand. Lets not put the whole blame on MI. Hardik is equally to blame in all this drama. And in all this, RCB is stuck with Cameroon Green for no fault of theirs.