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Originally Posted by notjustshrawan
(Post 1115207)
those who claim that the Nano will cause pollution and traffic jams should stop driving their cars before commenting. This 624 cc engine is less polluting than a two wheeler and a family of 3 or 4 on the Nano will do less harm to mother earth than when they are on their 100 cc motorcycle. As congestion grows in metros (courtesy to rise in car+truck+bus sales) small and fuel efficient cars like the Nano will make sense. |
Less pollution than a two wheeler? is that for real?
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Originally Posted by ritz830
(Post 1112135)
Nano will make us fart even more greenhouse gas per household.
Indians top the pollution charts across the world. After nano, we will create history in C02 emission. |
Check your facts buddy. US tops per capita pollution charts.
International Pollution Comparisons
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Originally Posted by raveen_2023
(Post 1116741)
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The page you have presented is not accurate. Pollution from cars contribute only to air pollution, so you need to consider only that and not take pollution as a whole. Also the chart talks about the most polluting nation, while its not talking about the polluted i.e USA has enough forests/trees to clear away the pollution, but India does not have the same.
Dude, nice try :thumbs up
The relevant proof:
Air pollution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The most polluted cities are listed down in this page and you can see it for yourself.
Most polluted cites inclusive of all kinds of pollution:
Full List 2006 : Blacksmith Institute : Home
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Nano will make us fart even more greenhouse gas per household.
Indians top the pollution charts across the world. After nano, we will create history in C02 emission.
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Ritz, anybody reading your comment would have thought that you are implying that Indians produce more greenhouse gases than the rest.
Then Raveen countered your argument, showing that Indians (In India, only eight out of 1000 people own a car) cannot
fart more pollution than people in developed nations(In developed nation ~500 out of 1000 own vehicles).
Then you said
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The page you have presented is not accurate.
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I wonder how with fewer vehicles we can
green house gases.
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Pollution from cars contribute only to air pollution, so you need to consider only that and not take pollution as a whole. Also the chart talks about the most polluting nation, while its not talking about the polluted i.e USA has enough forests/trees to clear away the pollution, but India does not have the same.
Dude, nice try
The relevant proof:
Air pollution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The most polluted cities are listed down in this page and you can see it for yourself.
Most polluted cites inclusive of all kinds of pollution:
Full List 2006
: Blacksmith Institute : Home
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Now you are talking about over-all pollution, and providing the fact that developing nations are more "polluted" than developed ones.
Its ironical, that you have countered you own argument.
Because now we can rule out vehicles as the cause of pollution in developing nations, as Developed nations have more cars.
Then what is cause of pollution in developing nations ? Definitely the industrial activity.
If the same industrial activities are shifted to nations like America, they will be facing the same problems. So why are we doing what pollutes the environment ? Because such activities provide livelihood to our poor.
Lets take example of Kanpur, why is it so polluted? It is because of leather-textiles-detergent-ordinance factories. But these factories cannot be shut down as they employ so many people. Developed nations have exported their polluting industries to developing nations, we do their dirty work because we are poor. So the problem is poverty, which forces us to do whatever it takes to feed ourself.
So for us the biggest problem is not pollution but poverty, once we can come out of this poverty we wont be forced to do other people's dirty work.
And Nano(and others) plays crucial part in developing our country. India badly needs affordable vehicles, you can see it when you will see "Jugaad". You can see it when people use Tata Ace truck as a bus in rural India.
Rather than using polluting gen-sets(in Jugaads) people will modify Tata Nano to ply their farm produce to cities. Nano will also replace old and polluting three wheelers. Nano is better alternative to two wheelers for families.
Without even coming to market, Nano has forced other Automobile manufacturers to set up factories in India.
We need to encourage industries which pollute less, we need to encourage modern, less polluting and affordable form of transportation.
But it is quite ironical that people on an automobile forum are criticizing an affordable, fuel efficient, with probably tiniest IC engine.
If our cities are polluted already, then shouldn't we be blaming cars which are on the roads already.And why not replace
all of those with smaller vehicles. (Like Nano) ?
Did you know. More than humans or cars, cows fart the most. And the methane from their farts is a big problem to the environment.
In fact JC said in some episode of TG that, Methane produced in 1yr from 1 cow farting is more harmful to environment that CO2 emission from 1 LR Disco in a yr (10000 miles).
:Frustrati
I agree with anmol2k4. US itself has not signed Kyoto protocol until now and people in India (which ratified that protocol) are worried about pollution from a tiny car.
For me, improving standards of living in INDIA is more important than worrying about melting ice caps in north pole.
Anyone got a Pass to giveaway for the March 23 2009 Nano Launch to be held in Mumbai ? :)
If Yes then please PM me. :)
An automobile magazine carried a photograph of the Nano and Maruti 800 parked together haphazardly and commented on the difference in size. But it was difficult to discern the difference due to perspective effect. So I decided to put things in 'perspective'.
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Originally Posted by Guite
(Post 1225564)
An automobile magazine carried a photograph of the Nano and Maruti 800 parked together haphazardly and commented on the difference in size. But it was difficult to discern the difference due to perspective effect. So I decided to put things in 'perspective'. |
I think this Nano has a longer while base!! that's a good news.
Hi Guys,
So who all are booking the Nano baby?
"I want to be able to take my wife out for a drive in a car - my own car"
Indian chauffeur Gopal Pandurang
Aspiration of an average Indian... I am glad Tata has done it, its up to the government to provide the necessary infrastructure.
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Originally Posted by extreme_torque
(Post 1226501)
"I want to be able to take my wife out for a drive in a car - my own car"
Indian chauffeur Gopal Pandurang |
But not too soon, and you'd better keep your lakh ready, Gopal, to hand over to TML and wait a few months.
Read the news:
Nano buyers have to pay entire price on booking Quote:
In an effort to limit the demand for the much-hyped people's car, Tata Motors would insist on 100% (Rs 1 lakh) down payment for the Nano on booking. This, according to dealers, is an attempt to restrict the bookings since the company is severely constrained on the supply side of Nano.
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