The 'Education Abroad' Thread

Vulken Auto · 11th March 2005, 23:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by khanak

Also what do you think of coventry uni - www.coventry.ac.uk

hey heard coventry is good school but not enough orientation.

why dont you try for arts college of detriot, best of the lot out of 400 students only 10 go into vehicle design. so .........

u can try the pasadena too, also good one..

go to design news.com and search. as far as procedures why are you guys asking people when you have computers and internet and college websites and emails. the first thing you should know is correspond directly to the departments you applying till then u are way far away from your goals and scholar ships aswell.

GTO · 12th March 2005, 10:21

Quote:

Hey GTO
I heradr You were studying Industrial Design

Nope, I am an Mba and have had a business education all through.

Coventry is a decent school with well-priced programs. The faculty is great.

As Sahil mentioned, it is VERY VERY important to keep in touch with your admissions department via phone and email. Dont simply send your applications and wait to hear from them. Call up the international admissions and speak in a polite but assertive manner to the officer in charge of your application. It goes a long long way.

GTO

khanak · 13th March 2005, 13:45

thanks a lot
I went for the education uk fair and they were there
also went for the italian institute of design education fair
www.ied.it
they seemed pretty impressive too but the only hitch is tht i have to learn italian
im confused
i also need to give a portfolio
does anyone know where i can learn how to sketch cars better to help me for my portfolio

Vulken Auto · 13th March 2005, 14:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by khanak

thanks a lot
i also need to give a portfolio
does anyone know where i can learn how to sketch cars better to help me for my portfolio

That is the only important thing you need when you applying for design schools, If you r in US I would suggest art college of detriot night classes?

khanak · 14th March 2005, 00:09

thanks a lot man
night classes?
that means I can work off my tution fee in the day?
Taxi anyone?

Vulken Auto · 14th March 2005, 00:27

see the next thread oops

Vulken Auto · 14th March 2005, 00:28

khanak , I meant they have night classes for students who want to prepare their portifolios. I dont think they r counted as credits. so this is extra time in studios apart from nerve brakin main courses

And abt taxi thing, US is not like before , once caught u r deported!!
even by a ordinary cop since databases are linked now. sidaaaa INS KO JATA HAI in 5 minutes .

khanak · 14th March 2005, 00:30

oh ok
anything i can do before getting in
In mumbai or somthing
JJ perhaps?

ur allowed to work 20 hours a week right?
Dekhte hai
shaayad mera bichda hua bhai jail me mil jaye

Vulken Auto · 14th March 2005, 00:38

IDC (IIT) BOMBAY . Talked to many students and passed out designer for hiring purposes(not that sharp as europeans or americans) , infact they have a forum in yahoo or something. ask them for more information or go to IDC you get tonns of information. But for sure US schools are very very very intense for design. go to www.designnews.com for more info

khanak · 14th March 2005, 00:56

IIT- I wish
they have 16 seats
its in the Powai campus,right next to my house
besides its a post graduate industrial design course
what do i do before that

Car Design News

Concept Car UK

Vulken Auto · 14th March 2005, 01:04

go to IDC and talk to students

khanak · 14th March 2005, 01:16

the security is too tight
ur not allowed into except for mood-i the college festival
im lsearching for idc alumni on the net though

Rehaan · 14th March 2005, 01:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by khanak

Hey GTO
I heradr You were studying Industrial Design
Im doing my first year of IB and want to do Vehicle Design after this
But many people say that I should do my industrial design first

Hey Khanak,

It's me who is doin Industrial Design. @Rhode Island School Of Design.
Transportation design isnt really a huge part of the curriculum here.

If thats what you are looking for, there are a lot of schools on the west coast (namely california) that are very well known for their transportation design programs. Also, Detriot has some colleges, but if i had a choice i would pick Cali for each and every category.

Do you have a portfolio at all? Sketches/drawings/desgins you have done? Could we see it. And you will need a portfolio if you plan to apply to any design school.

cya
R

Vulken Auto · 14th March 2005, 07:15

RESPECT FOR VEHICLE DESIGNER IN THE WORLD: IT IS A WHOLE LOT DIFFERENT (REPEAT : they are the ferraris of design students)

I do know there are colleges which offer industrial design, but if your aim is drawing , designing cars ; Art at detroit is the best. And if some one says NO it will be only because they dont know. As far industrial design is concerned it is of a very different level from car designs, a very very low level so dont get confused. Our DC is from pasadena I suppose (but not sure) it is the best (2) there is one more in cali . but the point here is you have no choice

Detriot is like IIT in vehicle design out of 400 , they select only 10 who go to vehicle design and these 10 spend 20 hrs in studios for rest of their lifes . hehe

Also the fee struxcture is like you can get a lamborgini for that fees. close to 200k $ with everything for 4 years. so even you want to be a designer from DTA you have to own a lambo;heheh

"DONOT GO TO INDUSTRIAL DESIGN IF YOU WANT TO DESIGN CARS"
I repeat DONOT GO TO INDUSTRIAL DESIGN IF YOU WANT TO DESIGN CARS

You will end up in hell; u will realize after 4 years into the program.
we have got lot of colleges in europe for cheap alternative, coventry is one it will work out to 6000GBP for a year of fees which is very very cheap. I know a student in royal college of art- vehicle design , they offer only MS in vehicle design I suppose-his name is neeraj pal(did a job in Gm in india and went to uk for masters - works for me part time on alias frontier) one more guy did his design in IDC and Masters in institue of design in sweden (now he is mahindra extrior designer(did have a role in scorpio)- putting him as consultant. Believe me even if you become a designer u wont be drawing the most flashy car on planet ; all u be doin is draw crumped **** to reduce weight , shape theme shapes ..........etc and dont expect to get jobs atleast interns if you are not the best. I have searched for the best designers in the world " the best for my up coming project, and if you think I am stupid to talk to you abt this, how abt this: Hired the Jaguar cheif designer for my project and paying 100 euros/hr. Leave the price , time schedule is limited you feel the pain right away.

Btw: I wanted to do the course in detriot but chickened out because I felt stupid after my MBA, PHD in marketing (USA).

And your work needs lot and tonns of refinement even if u r just 17 since I know guys who r real real good at this at 13 itself and started workin on alias

RJK · 14th March 2005, 11:32

Khanak,

Off topic but where do you stay in Powai ? I'm in Hiranandani myself.

13th March 2005, 13:45	#18
khanak Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai/Toronto Posts: 2,799 Thanked: 268 Times View My Garage	thanks a lot I went for the education uk fair and they were there also went for the italian institute of design education fair www.ied.it they seemed pretty impressive too but the only hitch is tht i have to learn italian im confused i also need to give a portfolio does anyone know where i can learn how to sketch cars better to help me for my portfolio
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14th March 2005, 00:09	#20
khanak Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai/Toronto Posts: 2,799 Thanked: 268 Times View My Garage	thanks a lot man night classes? that means I can work off my tution fee in the day? Taxi anyone?
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Vulken Auto BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: . Posts: 545 Thanked: 263 Times	see the next thread oops Last edited by Vulken Auto : 14th March 2005 at 00:28.
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Vulken Auto BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: . Posts: 545 Thanked: 263 Times	khanak , I meant they have night classes for students who want to prepare their portifolios. I dont think they r counted as credits. so this is extra time in studios apart from nerve brakin main courses And abt taxi thing, US is not like before , once caught u r deported!! even by a ordinary cop since databases are linked now. sidaaaa INS KO JATA HAI in 5 minutes .
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khanak Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai/Toronto Posts: 2,799 Thanked: 268 Times View My Garage	oh ok anything i can do before getting in In mumbai or somthing JJ perhaps? ur allowed to work 20 hours a week right? Dekhte hai shaayad mera bichda hua bhai jail me mil jaye
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14th March 2005, 00:38	#24
Vulken Auto BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: . Posts: 545 Thanked: 263 Times	IDC (IIT) BOMBAY . Talked to many students and passed out designer for hiring purposes(not that sharp as europeans or americans) , infact they have a forum in yahoo or something. ask them for more information or go to IDC you get tonns of information. But for sure US schools are very very very intense for design. go to www.designnews.com for more info
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14th March 2005, 00:56	#25
khanak Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai/Toronto Posts: 2,799 Thanked: 268 Times View My Garage	IIT- I wish they have 16 seats its in the Powai campus,right next to my house besides its a post graduate industrial design course what do i do before that Car Design News Concept Car UK
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Vulken Auto BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: . Posts: 545 Thanked: 263 Times	go to IDC and talk to students
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khanak Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai/Toronto Posts: 2,799 Thanked: 268 Times View My Garage	the security is too tight ur not allowed into except for mood-i the college festival im lsearching for idc alumni on the net though
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14th March 2005, 07:15	#29
Vulken Auto BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: . Posts: 545 Thanked: 263 Times	A Lesson for design Students(ONLY AUTO EXTERIOR SURFACE DESIGNERS) RESPECT FOR VEHICLE DESIGNER IN THE WORLD: IT IS A WHOLE LOT DIFFERENT (REPEAT : they are the ferraris of design students) I do know there are colleges which offer industrial design, but if your aim is drawing , designing cars ; Art at detroit is the best. And if some one says NO it will be only because they dont know. As far industrial design is concerned it is of a very different level from car designs, a very very low level so dont get confused. Our DC is from pasadena I suppose (but not sure) it is the best (2) there is one more in cali . but the point here is you have no choice Detriot is like IIT in vehicle design out of 400 , they select only 10 who go to vehicle design and these 10 spend 20 hrs in studios for rest of their lifes . hehe Also the fee struxcture is like you can get a lamborgini for that fees. close to 200k $ with everything for 4 years. so even you want to be a designer from DTA you have to own a lambo;heheh "DONOT GO TO INDUSTRIAL DESIGN IF YOU WANT TO DESIGN CARS" I repeat DONOT GO TO INDUSTRIAL DESIGN IF YOU WANT TO DESIGN CARS You will end up in hell; u will realize after 4 years into the program. we have got lot of colleges in europe for cheap alternative, coventry is one it will work out to 6000GBP for a year of fees which is very very cheap. I know a student in royal college of art- vehicle design , they offer only MS in vehicle design I suppose-his name is neeraj pal(did a job in Gm in india and went to uk for masters - works for me part time on alias frontier) one more guy did his design in IDC and Masters in institue of design in sweden (now he is mahindra extrior designer(did have a role in scorpio)- putting him as consultant. Believe me even if you become a designer u wont be drawing the most flashy car on planet ; all u be doin is draw crumped **** to reduce weight , shape theme shapes ..........etc and dont expect to get jobs atleast interns if you are not the best. I have searched for the best designers in the world " the best for my up coming project, and if you think I am stupid to talk to you abt this, how abt this: Hired the Jaguar cheif designer for my project and paying 100 euros/hr. Leave the price , time schedule is limited you feel the pain right away. Btw: I wanted to do the course in detriot but chickened out because I felt stupid after my MBA, PHD in marketing (USA). And your work needs lot and tonns of refinement even if u r just 17 since I know guys who r real real good at this at 13 itself and started workin on alias Last edited by Vulken Auto : 14th March 2005 at 07:19.
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14th March 2005, 11:32	#30
RJK Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 1,139 Thanked: 697 Times	Khanak, Off topic but where do you stay in Powai ? I'm in Hiranandani myself.
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