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Originally Posted by Chetan_Rao I've seen colleagues leave, real good ones and critical contributors, and it may be my turn whenever the powers-that-be deem it necessary. |
This phenomena took me by surprise too. I expected flab to be thrown out first, while real contributors get to stay around. But I made a miscalculation. While good contributors were busy doing real work, the flab was busy building relationships/equations with higher management via brown-nosing and talking in buzz words. So when the time has to tighten the belt, the flab is playing role of the executioner. The flab is targeting the real contributors for layoff because they are the threat. In most cases, I am seeing that the good guys are getting the boot. Quote:
Originally Posted by Chetan_Rao Someone in their 40s and a cushy job would be devastated now, but they should've seen this coming and hopefully built a buffer and alternatives. Some I know have, some will learn the hard way. |
Unfortunately most of the IT services industry was in a bubble. It was impossible for them to see it like an outsider. As an outsider, I was openly saying that most IT guys overpaid even 10 years ago. Quote:
Originally Posted by Sawyer Make in India is another smoke and mirrors slogan to hide the ground realities. India missed the manufacturing bus decades ago, by its poor infrastructure and expensive, low productivity workforce. The IT industry succeeded because its downstream delivery chain did not need roads/ports etc., and labour unions had no role to play. |
Exactly. Industries grow when government offers least impediments. Since IT industry could upload their work, government couldn't play spoilsport like usual. But Make in India of non-software items will (already is) be a total failure because none of the government departments have released their strangle hold over movement of materials. We are at a stage of globalization, where any advanced product requires parts from multiple countries. If you strive to make every part in India, not only it will make the product costly, it may even suffer in quality. And to make every part in India, you may require advanced tools from abroad. If you try to build those tools in India, it may again make the venture even more expensive and suffer further loss in quality. We tried our hand in creating a hardware (Make in India) product, spent 3 times the invoice price to produce the item because of all the delays caused by various government departments. Customer was happy and offered another order. We declined and discontinued the product. Quote:
Originally Posted by luvDriving Having worked abroad too in a team of developers from four different European countries, their work ethics and ability to segregate work and personal life amazes me. Even in product companies, the major chunk of work is done by the onsite team and the rest filters down to India.
So I think it is due to this reason that the show really goes on. Even if it is very profitable to get it done from India, it is mostly bug fixing, a small enhancement here and there and then positioning it as something very big that keeps the ball rolling. Couple this with the education system that we have and we are producing IT slaves year on year. |
There are many world-class products that are designed and developed in India. But they are not the majority. Quote:
Originally Posted by dmplog There is a dangerous precedence set by these IT Services companies to offer lead position to anyone who is 4-5 years old. So, the moment you make anyone a "lead", he stops coding thereby making him losing touch with his core competency. We don't seem to take pride in being technically involved and only want to be "Lead" or "Manager". Bulk of the work is carried out by the graduates and 1-3 year experienced programmers. As soon as these people are 4-5 years old, willingly or unwillingly, they get or ask for a lead role! And the story continues. |
IT services is mainly a labour intensive activity, which requires little technical competence and massive administrative effort. These leads/manager mainly do clerical work of keeping track of activities. Calling them leaders or managers is a misnomer. Quote:
Originally Posted by am1m About the rise of an alternate outsourcing destination with good communication capabilities, again I've been hearing that for the past 10 years at least. It was China, Philippines, Sri Lanka, Slovakia (or Slovenia, I forget which ). Puzzling. At least to me. |
Yes, the India advantage is slipping away. Recently a former employee was visiting me after 5 years. He now works in Poland, mainly developing in C#. He told me that most techies there can manage English well, and the average programming skill is much higher compared to India. Then he said something that shocked everybody in our office. If he tries to work more than 8 hours a day, his supervisor gets irritated and asks him to leave for the day. Quote:
Originally Posted by bluevolt Amidst of this discussion, I would like to take the opinion of fellow BHPians about the prospects of job profiles like Scrum Master, Scrum Product Owner and a Business Analyst in current and future IT industry scenario? |
Discussion of scrum/agile might violate Rule#13.
Last edited by Samurai : 16th December 2017 at 17:35.
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