Fire in Carlton Towers Bangalore - Horrible Sight.

benbsb29 · 24th February 2010, 11:23

I truly feel sad for the victims, and those who perished in this unfortunate incident.

Come to think of it, i know a highrise on the Brookfields main road, which my friend who stays there has told me multiple times that the fire hydrant boxes are just a farce, and are empty. Clearly shows how regulations are flouted.

CasperRider · 24th February 2010, 11:48

Really sad incident. these are more and more examples of how inadequate is our preparedness to tackle emergencies, especially in cities. Fire brigade is helpless that they can’t reach the sites because of traffic, and even if they reached, they are less equipped. I really doubt how well our Police force is also trained to handle situations like this.

Just today morning, while I was waiting at a traffic signal, there was an ambulance flashing lights at the end or the crowd, but the traffic police women at the junction was busy talking over her cell phone and did not really bother to switch off the electronic traffic signal and give way for the ambulance. What do we call this? Lack of motivation??

Spitfire · 24th February 2010, 11:59

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Originally Posted by black12rr

Spitfire ,do you work in that building ? . Do you guys are back to work so soon ?

No, I work in the opposite buidling - Diamond District.

We all rushed to help and were some of the few who reached there even before anyone made out what was happening. For the first 15 mins everyone thought the smoke was from the chimneys of the restaurants in that building.

We retreated once the chaos started. Fearing explosions as someone said there is fuel on the terrace. Security men there manning the entries who are first to pull you up when you have to pay for the parking were running for their lives the opposite direction to which we were running in.

Some few brave souls did venture inside.

Bangalore educated people are the biggest morons in this country.

Irony was when we were rushing towards the building from the opposite side vehicles travelling on the road tried to mow us down as we were crossing the road.

HellwratH · 24th February 2010, 12:01

I saw the footage on TV. It was seriously a horrible sight. May the souls RIP.

But, I seriously feel that these footages should not be broadcasted on television. Why are the tv channels bent upon spreading the trauma? :(

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Originally Posted by CasperRider

Just today morning, while I was waiting at a traffic signal, there was an ambulance flashing lights at the end or the crowd, but the traffic police women at the junction was busy talking over her cell phone and did not really bother to switch off the electronic traffic signal and give way for the ambulance. What do we call this? Lack of motivation??

Nope, I call it "I just don't give a damn about your life or anyone else's unless the life is mine or someone related to me". This kind of attitude scares me the most. I have seen this attitude not only by the authorities but by the general public as well. Seen so many cabs and drivers who drive recklessly and almost causing a major accident on roads because they just don't give a damn.

Second thing is lack of common sense. I still don't understand or cannot comprehend the fact that the general public blocked the entire road, causing delay in arrival of firemen? Sheesh. When, I just keep wondering, when will we ever learn? Is it really that difficult or we really don't give a damn unless it concerns us? :-/

prince_pervez · 24th February 2010, 12:07

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Originally Posted by CasperRider

Just today morning, while I was waiting at a traffic signal, there was an ambulance flashing lights at the end or the crowd, but the traffic police women at the junction was busy talking over her cell phone and did not really bother to switch off the electronic traffic signal and give way for the ambulance. What do we call this? Lack of motivation??

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Originally Posted by HellwratH

Nope, I call it "I just don't give a damn about your life or anyone else's unless the life is mine or someone related to me". This kind of attitude scares me the most. I have seen this attitude not only by the authorities but by the general public as well. Seen so many cabs and drivers who drive recklessly and almost causing a major accident on roads because they just don't give a damn.

Sorry for the Anticlimax, but many ambulances are at fault here. Like The boy who cried wolf, many ambulances will flash lights and sound sirens just to get clearance from the traffic ahead. The cops know this.

But anyways, they should have the decency to check for genuine cases before letting off one.
There have been many cases in BLR where pregnant ladies have delivered in the ambulances or something worse has happened.

srishiva · 24th February 2010, 12:21

Guess it all goes back to the attitude of the people in this country. And they blame the authorities.
Its mostly about people not being informed and even if they are they not ready to toe the right way for their own reasons.

HellwratH · 24th February 2010, 12:24

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Originally Posted by prince_pervez

Sorry for the Anticlimax, but many ambulances are at fault here. Like The boy who cried wolf, many ambulances will flash lights and sound sirens just to get clearance from the traffic ahead. The cops know this.

But anyways, they should have the decency to check for genuine cases before letting off one.
There have been many cases in BLR where pregnant ladies have delivered in the ambulances or something worse has happened.

But, how will you verify this? Let's say an accident has occured and an ambulance is rushing to that place. Is there any way of verifying that the accident has acutally happened? And let's assume it's a genuine accident, every second counts and if the cop stops ambulance even for 2 mins, it can cost somebody his/her life.

What makes more sense to me is allowing the ambulances even if they are faking it. It is only sensible not to stop for verification when somebody else's life is at stake.

EDIT: Sorry for hijacking as well. Let's not go OT here.

CasperRider · 24th February 2010, 12:25

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Originally Posted by prince_pervez

Sorry for the Anticlimax, but many ambulances are at fault here. Like The boy who cried wolf, many ambulances will flash lights and sound sirens just to get clearance from the traffic ahead. The cops know this.

Actually it seem like a genuine case. After I pulled over give way, I've seen 3-4 people at the back and they seem to be desperate. Sorry for hijacking the thread.

srishiva · 24th February 2010, 12:35

The authorities have booked cases against the owners. Isn't there any responsibility with the authorities at all? It seems to be a trend everywhere.

prince_pervez · 24th February 2010, 13:01

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Originally Posted by HellwratH

But, how will you verify this?

By this I meant check if there is a victim on a stretcher inside.
If an amby is on its way at an accident site the cop can radio enquire the same and let it pass.
All said and done, I want to see Disneyland.

vineetmanghani · 24th February 2010, 14:12

Really shocking and disturbing news. One of the perished, Sunil Iyer, was a dear friend and colleague. Always upbeat, always high on life. I cannot help thinking since this morning what his thoughts would have been when he was about to jump out of that building.

May God give his family the strength to bear this massive loss. May his soul rest in peace.

prajwalkashyap · 24th February 2010, 14:28

Was very sad to see the situation on TV, even sadder to know that one of the victims was known to u. Hard to digest tragedies.

My condolences to all affected.

Prajwal

Torqy · 24th February 2010, 15:00

@hellwrath, you're right.
Ambulances whether or not with genuine reasons should ALWAYS be given way. Ambulances don't have the time to convince anybody about where its going / why its on its way.

Sorry for going off-topic. Everyday i see people on Airport Road not giving a damn about those wailing sirens.

And as @spitfire mentioned, trying to mow down people in front of Diamond District is routine. Thanks to the highly educated people who never took a course on "Common Sense".

-- Torqy

agbenny · 24th February 2010, 15:11

It was 2001, I was working for a MNC networking company in Carlton towers, we used go to the chitchat near by. It was a nice building, and I get the view of Airport road from my seat.
Sad that invaluable lives are lost, may their soul rest in peace.

prince_pervez · 24th February 2010, 15:14

Just read in the papers that the doors to the emergency exit stairways were found locked by the near by (Leela Palace) security incharge(s). How smart is that ? Who was responsible to open them for the occupants ? Getting uneducated poor youth wanting to earn a living in a big city, for a security person's job is not responsible.

24th February 2010, 11:23	#76
benbsb29 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Brisbane Posts: 9,968 Thanked: 13,223 Times View My Garage	I truly feel sad for the victims, and those who perished in this unfortunate incident. Come to think of it, i know a highrise on the Brookfields main road, which my friend who stays there has told me multiple times that the fire hydrant boxes are just a farce, and are empty. Clearly shows how regulations are flouted.
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24th February 2010, 11:48	#77
CasperRider BHPian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Mysore Posts: 88 Thanked: 4 Times	Really sad incident. these are more and more examples of how inadequate is our preparedness to tackle emergencies, especially in cities. Fire brigade is helpless that they can’t reach the sites because of traffic, and even if they reached, they are less equipped. I really doubt how well our Police force is also trained to handle situations like this. Just today morning, while I was waiting at a traffic signal, there was an ambulance flashing lights at the end or the crowd, but the traffic police women at the junction was busy talking over her cell phone and did not really bother to switch off the electronic traffic signal and give way for the ambulance. What do we call this? Lack of motivation??
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24th February 2010, 12:21	#81
srishiva Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 4,375 Thanked: 2,256 Times	Guess it all goes back to the attitude of the people in this country. And they blame the authorities. Its mostly about people not being informed and even if they are they not ready to toe the right way for their own reasons.
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24th February 2010, 12:35	#84
srishiva Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 4,375 Thanked: 2,256 Times	The authorities have booked cases against the owners. Isn't there any responsibility with the authorities at all? It seems to be a trend everywhere.
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24th February 2010, 14:12	#86
vineetmanghani BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: New Delhi <---> Posts: 79 Thanked: 10 Times	Really shocking and disturbing news. One of the perished, Sunil Iyer, was a dear friend and colleague. Always upbeat, always high on life. I cannot help thinking since this morning what his thoughts would have been when he was about to jump out of that building. May God give his family the strength to bear this massive loss. May his soul rest in peace.
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24th February 2010, 14:28	#87
prajwalkashyap BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: Melbourne Posts: 292 Thanked: 76 Times	Was very sad to see the situation on TV, even sadder to know that one of the victims was known to u. Hard to digest tragedies. My condolences to all affected. Prajwal
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24th February 2010, 15:00	#88
Torqy BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 966 Thanked: 244 Times	@hellwrath, you're right. Ambulances whether or not with genuine reasons should ALWAYS be given way. Ambulances don't have the time to convince anybody about where its going / why its on its way. Sorry for going off-topic. Everyday i see people on Airport Road not giving a damn about those wailing sirens. And as @spitfire mentioned, trying to mow down people in front of Diamond District is routine. Thanks to the highly educated people who never took a course on "Common Sense". -- Torqy Last edited by Torqy : 24th February 2010 at 15:03.
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24th February 2010, 15:11	#89
agbenny Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: TN38 Posts: 1,069 Thanked: 276 Times	It was 2001, I was working for a MNC networking company in Carlton towers, we used go to the chitchat near by. It was a nice building, and I get the view of Airport road from my seat. Sad that invaluable lives are lost, may their soul rest in peace.
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24th February 2010, 15:14	#90
prince_pervez Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Redwood shores, CA, USA Posts: 4,210 Thanked: 51 Times View My Garage	Just read in the papers that the doors to the emergency exit stairways were found locked by the near by (Leela Palace) security incharge(s). How smart is that ? Who was responsible to open them for the occupants ? Getting uneducated poor youth wanting to earn a living in a big city, for a security person's job is not responsible.
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