Air India Express Flight IX812 from Dubai crashes at Mangalore airport - Over 160 Dead

anekho · 22nd May 2010, 11:54

RIP, very sad news. My condolences.

Did this happen at the new airport in Mangalore?

BaCkSeAtDrIVeR · 22nd May 2010, 12:01

For those interested, the list of passengers on board

Mathrubhumi - ????????????: ????????????? ??????

Edit :- economic times pust the number of survivors at 8, not 7.

spadival · 22nd May 2010, 12:04

RIP..never thought I would go thru a passenger list looking for familiar names..

This isn't the first time that a plane overshot the runway here.. But that was on the old runway. Landing on the old runway was always a hair raising experience.. Thought new one was longer and safer.

Samurai · 22nd May 2010, 12:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravveendrra

News reports and visuals show that Mangalore airport had/has rain and bad weather. Rain or thundershowers can muck up a landing due to poor visibility, sudden gusts of wind can play havoc with the plane.

Aerially I am within 50Kms of the Airport and the weather here is very clear and very sunny. I can't see a rain cloud anywhere.

Photos from Daijiworld show dry terrain.

http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_...galore+Airport

Let's wait for the real reasons to come out.

Ravveendrra · 22nd May 2010, 12:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samurai

Aerially I am within 50Kms of the Airport and the weather here is very clear and very sunny. I can't see a rain cloud anywhere.

Photos from Daijiworld show dry terrain.

http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_...galore+Airport

Let's wait for the real reasons to come out.

Thanks for the info and link. I guess I was misled by some journo saying the crash happened due to bad weather and the visuals on TV which showed water drenched plants and people. I guess the water came from the fire engines.

As you so rightly said, let us wait for real reasons to come out.

kadri007 · 22nd May 2010, 12:20

Here is the complete list of passengers of Air India Express

http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_disp.asp?n_id=77846&n_tit=Mangalore+%3A+Air+I ndia+Express+Crash+-+Complete+Passengers%27+List

RVD · 22nd May 2010, 12:44

Very sad news to start a weekend indeed. Hope the departed souls RIP. Coming to the fact that the captain was a Serb doen not have any bearing on this accident as it could well have been the Co-Pilot making the landing on this leg. Also, having an ILS system does not necessitate the use of it. The pilot can switch to a "Visual" landing if he has the runway in sight and thinks that he can fly the plane manually.

The weather also was an unlikely cause as slight drizzle has little or no bearing on the landing distance. Obviously when the runway is designed, it is done so taking into account the weather conditions, wind conditions etc of that area. Hence the length was enough taking all that into consideration.

One good thing in that, the aircraft being a Boeing, the US NTSB would surely be involved and that would make the jobs of the DGCA also much easier.

Regards

Rahul

Rajesh K R · 22nd May 2010, 13:10

very sad & tragic news indeed. May the departed souls RIP. May the almighty give strength to the relatives to bear the loss.

zenx · 22nd May 2010, 13:16

Horrible news. Prayers with the families of those who lost their lives. Its also a little irritating to see the media just jump into trying to find scapegoats, blame someone. Its first and foremost a tragic accident, and can we first respect the dead and empathize with those who remain in grief ?

sandeepmdas · 22nd May 2010, 13:38

The ill-fated aircraft (VT-AXV)
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Air-I...166f579ff9267b

http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.p...6587325&nseq=3

Last flights:
VT-AXV - Air India Express - data.flight24.com

soucrce: Airliners.net / jetphotos.net

mobike008 · 22nd May 2010, 13:47

This is really sad news and totally dampened my weekend spirit.

If i am not wrong a passenger plane crash of such a large proportion involving an indian carrier is happening for the first time in India ( or maybe after several years).

Can someone throw light on this one?

My heartfelt condolences to the familes of the deceased. May their souls RIP !

MAS · 22nd May 2010, 13:50

Very Sad indeed. Probably the worst crash in Indian Aviation History. My heart felt condolences to the family members of the deceased.

I heard the NDTV news and it said that the Serbian Pilot was experienced and had landed many times at the same airport. It also said that plane landed at the exact spot it was intended to and that the Pilot had not reported any abnormalities.

It seems that something went wrong after the flight landed.

Just got this on Yahoo.com

Quote

Fortunate to be alive, says survivor

"It has been a hair raising experience and I am fortunate to be still alive," says Umar Farooq, one of the lucky survivors of the fatal Air India aircraft crash here today. Farooq, who suffered burns on his face and hands, managed to jump out of the aircraft as it caught fire after one of its wings hit a hillock before landing at Kenjar near here.

He said the aircraft experienced turbulence and crashed in a forest area. "The aircraft was full.

But I don''t know the number of passengers on board", he said, adding he heard a loud thud. There was a commotion after the aircraft caught fire and smoke engulfed it, he said, adding "I saw a broken passage in the aircraft and I jumped out of it".

He said he walked for about half a kilometre inside the rocky terrain and locals who saw him took him on a motorcycle for some distance, before rushing him to a hospital by an autorickshaw. 160 passengers, including four infants, and 6 crew were on board the ill-fated plane.

Farooq is among the eight surviving passengers.

Unquote

Flight's wing hit a hillock? That is a something new.

Irish · 22nd May 2010, 13:56

What a tragedy. I have no words to write!
May God grant strength to the families those who lost their near and dear ones.

Meer · 22nd May 2010, 13:59

A very sad day indeed.. I hope God gives strength to the bereaved families. Most of the folks were returning from Gulf for vacation and their loved ones were anxiously waiting for them..
As per the accounts, it was clear weather, the ATC saw the plane touch the runway correctly but all hell broke loose after and seems a tire burst and plane overshot the runway, broke into pieces. The folks who were initially thrown out of the plane are the ones to survive and then a horrific blaze engulfed the plane.
I would request media to be restrained as well as stick to facts.. there are already channels talking about less training for the pilots and pilot error and foreign pilot etc.

Samurai · 22nd May 2010, 14:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAS

Flight's wing hit a hillock? That is a something new.

This is my local Airport, the one I have used the most. So it is kind of spine chilling to hear this news.

The airport is on a hill, with valley on most sides. Once the aircraft overshot the runway, it would be coming down the valley and may have hit the wing on to a hillock.

See this: http://www.wikimapia.org/#lat=12.947...4&z=18&l=0&m=b

22nd May 2010, 11:54	#31
anekho Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: . Posts: 1,995 Thanked: 684 Times	RIP, very sad news. My condolences. Did this happen at the new airport in Mangalore?
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BaCkSeAtDrIVeR BANNED Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Kochi Posts: 2,522 Thanked: 752 Times	For those interested, the list of passengers on board Mathrubhumi - ????????????: ????????????? ?????? Edit :- economic times pust the number of survivors at 8, not 7. Last edited by BaCkSeAtDrIVeR : 22nd May 2010 at 12:04.
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spadival Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Melbourne, AU Posts: 1,773 Thanked: 26 Times View My Garage	RIP..never thought I would go thru a passenger list looking for familiar names.. This isn't the first time that a plane overshot the runway here.. But that was on the old runway. Landing on the old runway was always a hair raising experience.. Thought new one was longer and safer. Last edited by spadival : 22nd May 2010 at 12:08.
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kadri007 BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Bangalore/Mangalore Posts: 433 Thanked: 7 Times	Here is the complete list of passengers of Air India Express http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_disp.asp?n_id=77846&n_tit=Mangalore+%3A+Air+I ndia+Express+Crash+-+Complete+Passengers%27+List
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22nd May 2010, 12:44	#37
RVD BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: BANGALORE Posts: 156 Thanked: 290 Times	Very sad news to start a weekend indeed. Hope the departed souls RIP. Coming to the fact that the captain was a Serb doen not have any bearing on this accident as it could well have been the Co-Pilot making the landing on this leg. Also, having an ILS system does not necessitate the use of it. The pilot can switch to a "Visual" landing if he has the runway in sight and thinks that he can fly the plane manually. The weather also was an unlikely cause as slight drizzle has little or no bearing on the landing distance. Obviously when the runway is designed, it is done so taking into account the weather conditions, wind conditions etc of that area. Hence the length was enough taking all that into consideration. One good thing in that, the aircraft being a Boeing, the US NTSB would surely be involved and that would make the jobs of the DGCA also much easier. Regards Rahul
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22nd May 2010, 13:10	#38
Rajesh K R BHPian Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Bangalore Posts: 393 Thanked: 95 Times	very sad & tragic news indeed. May the departed souls RIP. May the almighty give strength to the relatives to bear the loss.
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22nd May 2010, 13:16	#39
zenx Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,161 Thanked: 158 Times View My Garage	Horrible news. Prayers with the families of those who lost their lives. Its also a little irritating to see the media just jump into trying to find scapegoats, blame someone. Its first and foremost a tragic accident, and can we first respect the dead and empathize with those who remain in grief ?
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sandeepmdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Varkala Posts: 1,536 Thanked: 2,489 Times	The ill-fated aircraft (VT-AXV) http://www.airliners.net/photo/Air-I...166f579ff9267b http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.p...6587325&nseq=3 Last flights: VT-AXV - Air India Express - data.flight24.com soucrce: Airliners.net / jetphotos.net Last edited by sandeepmdas : 22nd May 2010 at 13:42.
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22nd May 2010, 13:47	#41
mobike008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 11,694 Thanked: 14,782 Times View My Garage	This is really sad news and totally dampened my weekend spirit. If i am not wrong a passenger plane crash of such a large proportion involving an indian carrier is happening for the first time in India ( or maybe after several years). Can someone throw light on this one? My heartfelt condolences to the familes of the deceased. May their souls RIP !
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22nd May 2010, 13:50	#42
MAS Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 1,940 Thanked: 1,614 Times	Very Sad indeed. Probably the worst crash in Indian Aviation History. My heart felt condolences to the family members of the deceased. I heard the NDTV news and it said that the Serbian Pilot was experienced and had landed many times at the same airport. It also said that plane landed at the exact spot it was intended to and that the Pilot had not reported any abnormalities. It seems that something went wrong after the flight landed. Just got this on Yahoo.com Quote Fortunate to be alive, says survivor "It has been a hair raising experience and I am fortunate to be still alive," says Umar Farooq, one of the lucky survivors of the fatal Air India aircraft crash here today. Farooq, who suffered burns on his face and hands, managed to jump out of the aircraft as it caught fire after one of its wings hit a hillock before landing at Kenjar near here. He said the aircraft experienced turbulence and crashed in a forest area. "The aircraft was full. But I don''t know the number of passengers on board", he said, adding he heard a loud thud. There was a commotion after the aircraft caught fire and smoke engulfed it, he said, adding "I saw a broken passage in the aircraft and I jumped out of it". He said he walked for about half a kilometre inside the rocky terrain and locals who saw him took him on a motorcycle for some distance, before rushing him to a hospital by an autorickshaw. 160 passengers, including four infants, and 6 crew were on board the ill-fated plane. Farooq is among the eight surviving passengers. Unquote Flight's wing hit a hillock? That is a something new. Last edited by MAS : 22nd May 2010 at 13:55.
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Irish BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: India Posts: 603 Thanked: 652 Times	What a tragedy. I have no words to write! May God grant strength to the families those who lost their near and dear ones.
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22nd May 2010, 13:59	#44
Meer BHPian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Pune Posts: 264 Thanked: 189 Times View My Garage	A very sad day indeed.. I hope God gives strength to the bereaved families. Most of the folks were returning from Gulf for vacation and their loved ones were anxiously waiting for them.. As per the accounts, it was clear weather, the ATC saw the plane touch the runway correctly but all hell broke loose after and seems a tire burst and plane overshot the runway, broke into pieces. The folks who were initially thrown out of the plane are the ones to survive and then a horrific blaze engulfed the plane. I would request media to be restrained as well as stick to facts.. there are already channels talking about less training for the pilots and pilot error and foreign pilot etc.
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